Indoor Veg/ Indoor Flower Vs. Indoor Veg/ Outdoor Flower

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krakkernutz

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Hello everyone, I am new to the Forum. I have some questions I couldn't seem to clear up with just "Google" and I am in need of any knowledge and experience anyone can offer me.
I currently 6 weeks into veg'ing 40 plants in 5 gallon buckets, under 5kw of light on a 24/7 light cycle. They range from 16" to 26" tall. They receive nutes EOD and are taking off fast in their growth spurt. My question is whether I will get a better yield by putting these plants in the ground outdoor to flower for their 8-10 weeks, or indoor. They would be under a 12-13 hour daylight cycle due to my Latitude and getting full sun. I am told outdoor will yield much more for flowering but have not been able to confirm that from another source. I am concerned with quantity more than quality. Is there anyone with experience with this approach out there? Thank You kindly.:wall:
 
Chuckdizzle

Chuckdizzle

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I'm interested to see the answer to that question about more quantity inside or outside too man.

I do think you'll be prone to more problems if you transplant them outside though...different and highly variable climate, possible loss in a big storm and soil adaptability issues if you plant straight into the ground. But all that's part of the fun of going outdoors, the way nature intended!
 
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krakkernutz

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Aurora - Why would you think that? I expect them to go into flowering very quick given the change in light from 24hrs to 12-14hrs. At the same time, it makes sense that grow lights, no matter how many watts and lumens should be comparable to the power of the sun?
 
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krakkernutz

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Chuck- I am going to be planting them in the ground with dug out large holes with my organic soil mix and be feeding them the advanced nutrients Sensi Bloom AB every day during their watering sessions. THe sun is much more powerful than 5000kw and im in optimum conditions climatically. Maybe I should log this carefully given the lack of responses Im getting on this board. My associates with years of experience are inquiring that I would get around a 300-500% increase. I guess we will see in 9 weeks :D
 
TUS

TUS

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  • No my friend if you begin indoor you have to leave them indoor !!! if you put them outside your fucked up you will bugs and small spiders instead of BUDS



 
TUS

TUS

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If you put some pics , you will receive more info .... in my opinion you can put them in flowering stage next week :weed:
 
CPmass

CPmass

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Nothing beats the 100,000 some odd lumens of the sun. Outdoor yields are always bigger..
However, bug infestations are always bigger outdoors too.
I prefer the safety of my grow room. Nobody chews on my plants but me!
 
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krakkernutz

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ill put pics up tmrw, anyone saying i cant do it should give me more of a reason than just bugs and saying im fucked up lol. ill put some pics up tmrw because this can and will be done.
 
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krakkernutz

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ill put pics up tmrw, anyone saying i cant do it should give me more of a reason than just bugs and saying im fucked up lol. ill put some pics up tmrw because this can and will be done.
 
AimAim

AimAim

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TUS said:


  • No my friend if you begin indoor you have to leave them indoor !!! if you put them outside your fucked up you will bugs and small spiders instead of BUD
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Riduculous, I've been doing exactly that, start indoor, move outdoor for over 30 years, plants 4-8 weeks old.

I cut the light back an hr a night to roughly the outdoor light conditions. I wait till mid May when daylight is definitely long enoughwhere I live, you can use this calculator and use the twilight times, not sunrise/set.http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.php
I am assuming you are in the northern hemisphere and your days are getting longer, so you want to wait a bit if possible if your not around 15 hours from twilight to twilight. The worst thing you can do (and I've done this before on a few plants a long time ago) is to flip them to flower by putting them out too early. They start to flower then stop and revert to veg then back to flower in the fall. They eventually sort it out but your growth slows and production suffers.

And don't just toss them in the full sun, give them a few days to work up to that, cloudy days, part shade, and east them into a few hours6-8 of direct full light and you are good to go plant. Yeah you might have bugs and a few critters, insects, hail damage, heat and water stress, etc but they are tough and will be fine. Starting indoors has nothing to do with it though, the same problems would exist if you planted outdoors, not sure what the thinking was there, if any.


 
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krakkernutz

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AimAim said:
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Riduculous, I've been doing exactly that, start indoor, move outdoor for over 30 years, plants 4-8 weeks old.

I cut the light back an hr a night to roughly the outdoor light conditions. I wait till mid May when daylight is definitely long enoughwhere I live, you can use this calculator and use the twilight times, not sunrise/set.http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.php
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I am assuming you are in the northern hemisphere and your days are getting longer, so you want to wait a bit if possible if your not around 15 hours from twilight to twilight. The worst thing you can do (and I've done this before on a few plants a long time ago) is to flip them to flower by putting them out too early. They start to flower then stop and revert to veg then back to flower in the fall. They eventually sort it out but your growth slows and production suffers.

And don't just toss them in the full sun, give them a few days to work up to that, cloudy days, part shade, and east them into a few hours6-8 of direct full light and you are good to go plant. Yeah you might have bugs and a few critters, insects, hail damage, heat and water stress, etc but they are tough and will be fine. Starting indoors has nothing to do with it though, the same problems would exist if you planted outdoors, not sure what the thinking was there, if any.
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Did you put them out on this light pattern to flower them right away or did you flower them in the fall with this technique? Thank you for your reply
 
calicat

calicat

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The problem with starting indoor and finishing outdoor is that you are going from a controlled setting to a not so controlled environment. Its like having a baby being kept in a bubble free of germs however you remove the baby from there then it becomes susceptible to the environment. It can be done and I have actually done it. Now with the others comments about bugs you can do preventative treatments but it is not 100% full proof. To answer your question yes you do get bigger yields compared to indoor crops sometimes much more as long as your root mass is solid and your surface area on your plant is immense.
 
AimAim

AimAim

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krakkernutz said:
Did you put them out on this light pattern to flower them right away or did you flower them in the fall with this technique? Thank you for your reply
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I'm not sure what you are asking. I set them out in vegetative state, they stay in veg and grow all summer, then flower when daylight gets short in the fall.
 
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