induction light??

calbunn said:

what's noteworthy here is that a 12 blend phospor induction lamp will peak at 300 and 700 nanometers meaning you see UV and IR spectrum for veg and flower/bud. There is no comparing a standard CFL, T5 or T8. While induction is a form of fluorescent it does not uses an internal electrode. in other words the lamp itself creates light from the big silver donuts, the rings you see around the lamps that are actually magnets creating a north and south pole. This is important because you do not see lumen depreciation like that of HID or fluorescent lamps. Next time you look at any fluorescent lamp look at the ends going black. This is carbon build up which depreciates lumen output. Your eyes may not notice it but a plant and a meter does. I have my own opions why this is not more widely known but those are mine alone. The company that offers alot more information on this is inda-gro. they have an excellent website and if you call them as opposed to buy on line and you tell them it's for a 'medical grow' they knock 10% off the online price.

Also there is no emf interference. The driver, not a ballast, runs at 2.65 khz and well below wireless signal and the coupler/driver is within 12" of each other in a sheilded cable.

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calbunn said:

what's noteworthy here is that a 12 blend phospor induction lamp will peak at 300 and 700 nanometers meaning you see UV and IR spectrum for veg and flower/bud. There is no comparing a standard CFL, T5 or T8. While induction is a form of fluorescent it does not uses an internal electrode. in other words the lamp itself creates light from the big silver donuts, the rings you see around the lamps that are actually magnets creating a north and south pole. This is important because you do not see lumen depreciation like that of HID or fluorescent lamps. Next time you look at any fluorescent lamp look at the ends going black. This is carbon build up which depreciates lumen output. Your eyes may not notice it but a plant and a meter does. I have my own opions why this is not more widely known but those are mine alone. The company that offers alot more information on this is inda-gro. they have an excellent website and if you call them as opposed to buy on line and you tell them it's for a 'medical grow' they knock 10% off the online price.

Also there is no emf interference. The driver, not a ballast, runs at 2.65 khz and well below wireless signal and the coupler/driver is within 12" of each other in a sheilded cable.

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calbunn said:

ck out the inda-gro website. that's where I've bought mine. and a little tip, if you call them and tell them it's a medicinal grow they knock 10% off which you can't get on line (if you see them at a trade show they give the 10% off too. That's how I found out).

you'll thank me later.

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calbunn said:

I guess you can save some money by buying them in Shanghai but remeber inductions for area lighting and induction grow utilize different phospor blends. There are grow shops that have them or you can buy them direct in San Diego and they same day shipped for me. Suit yourself.

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calbunn said:

IMO Induction grow is still better then Plasma as Plasma represents some issues to consider for us as growers;

you'll need 208 - 277 volts to operate this fixture

only 30,000 hrs of lamp life compared to 100,000 hrs

while the PAR would be impressive it still looks to be only 60 lumens per watt based on 18,000 lumens which also begs the question 'what is lumen depreciation'? I couldn't see it on the site. Also the PDF suggests late stages incorporate a HPS in combination with the plasma.

I'm currently involved in a massive induction retrofit from 1000 watt HPS to 400 watt induction and I can go on and on. Especially as it relates to my passion

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calbunn said:

on an 8 x 8 I'd go with 2-3 of their 400's. The plants really pop under that series. They stock them too. FYI all lamps and drivers come out of China. There are 5 major induction mfg over there and I can tell you from my experience there is only one that has never in my 3 years of fucking with these things had a single failure. And by failure I mean also consistent lumen output and kelvin. Inda-Gro orders these batched. This is important because for example LEDs can be ordered 3500K on one order and then when you replace them (6 months fucking later in some cases!) the same 3500 is a different color. I have Inda-Gro because I know what they're doing relative to the frequency and phospor blends that are creating some PAR values that exceed 1000 watt HPS by 30% in photopic value if your using 2:1 or 10% higher if you're measuring VEL on a 1:1. It's a win/win, even on a one to one, but I like the better yield from bringing the light to the grow from two sources and for me I don't like taking a short cut with the lights.

That being said if all you're doing is cloning and vegging (for whatever reasons) or small tent grows then the 100's work very good for that.

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Donglai said:

Hey people im new to the forum but i've been reading quite a few posts from people and there's a lot of discusion going on with the induction lights. Atm i am working for mland in shanghai and i even bought a sample of the new induction bi-spectrum light they got out this year. And its going pretty good.
Still havent totally test it but if anyone needs more information about the lamp specs,brochures,prices or even orders please get in touch with me.

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Donglai said:

I will at some point, i just started a few weeks ago and still need some time for my babies to look presentable XD. However im just a bit paranoid of uploading pics from China...it's a life sentence in jail so im quite sceptic about that!

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Dominique Florian said:

Hey guys, have been following this discussion for a quite a while now.

Take that advice:
"Donglai" you would be totally stupid to upload pictures of marijuana plants while in China - death penalty is serious shit even if you are a foreigner.

I have bought one of those lights from Mland ( 300 Watt bi spectrum grow light).
I ordered a test sample - 15 days later I received my package via DHL freight - the light was in perfect condition.

Ive started setting up my lil operation at home, so far the babies coming out nicely.Unfortunate it will take some time before I can upload pictures, though I will do so as soon as possible; so be patient guys.
I compared the enery consumption with a HPS light and the difference is massive. The bi spectrum only needs half electricity of what the HPS "swallows" and the disturbing side effect of HEAT is no problem whatsoever.

I have contacted Mland and checked with my University lecturer( considering the lumen strenght):
The lights are rich in blue( 450 lm) and red(640lm) spectrum ( no purple spectrumm- who the fuck didnt do his homework? o0)
Ideally for the vegetative and blooming process of our Girls.


I think that the electroless induction light is the future of indoor growing, the low cost maintenance, longer lifespan and the prize are speaking for themselves.

Would love to see some test pictures of any of you guys.

Wishes x
dF

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These two have been banned as it seems they are sitting on the same computer as each other.. I would take everything they have said in this thread as fabrication.

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