Is it cheaper to grow.

J.Mike

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Hey All, I live in California, and have a state issued medical card. Any information contained is considered for informational purposes only. Thanks, I appreciate all input and feedback, just be cool, I have a temper, so i need all the help I can get and will try to share as much of the results as I can remember.

After successfully bringing one potted plant to bloom and even resulting in some decent smoke after, I invested in a complete bubbleponics, $330, from some stragglers in my drawer I managed 5 of 6 strong starters, germed and potted them, as my kit had not arrived yet, built a box, fans lights from my single soil grow, resulting in 5 seedlings in 1 week DSCN1873.JPG
Read as much as my cells could take and knew it all. right.
Week 2 18/6 xplant to system, tank broke upon arrival, made new tank lying around LARGER, oops (before you make the same mistake I did, Keep roots close to water level) switched wk 5, Good roots on all xplanted straight into hydroton,Gamma Gamma7.JPG BetaBeta7.JPG after one week, heat issues, circulation issue, CFL standard at 80-90 degrees enclosed. Added more vent, directly on res, and exhuast on top, switched fans to 6inch computer vent fans running on PS from puter. wk 4, constant temp 88 up top, 75 res H2o
Week 3 18/6 developing constant ph probs, adding every day to drop, Invested in more hydroton, ph meter, tds, $50. slime, pyth, OMG... Freaking read the internet, was referred to site. Cleaned system way better than wk 2, trimmed and sterilized with H2O2
Week 4, 18/6 plants yellowing but growing, no info on nutes/mics from kit, made blood meal tea, daily control of ph, and hoped. Lst during this week, some dead trim, broke epsilon, closed and bandaged with tape, hated me since but growing, added new air pump, xtra stone $60., Ordered new GH nutes/mic,$50. So much freaking reading...
Week 5 18/6 H2O 5hrs on/30 min off. Was gone 5 days and they blew up, grew and yellowed badly, ph was off dips, and my new meter said 8ish, TDS low 200, and they did not recover well from bending, slime back,changed container $5, cleaned and trimmed roots again, but deciding that I didn't treat them badly enough so I topped them . End of week nutes showed, changed to direction on bottle, add 1 fl oz blood meal tea daily "120 ppm" after changing res, ph adjustment almost nil. and TDS 750-800 ppm after tea.
Week 6,18/6 H2O 5hrs on/30 min off, scrogged grow, new GH nutes/ mics shows results, gamma and charlie dominant and somewhat healthy
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Have taken 2 clones beta/gamma for early sexingDSCN1976.JPG DSCN1977.JPG
and will c from there. Total spent on medication $1500, total spent on grow about $600.. and still reading but at least had time to write this, not going to xfer my specific notes.
 

vostok

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you slap up this shit then advise the membership you have a temper ...fuck this shit!! you will find RIU a rocky place to your taste....?
 

Indoor Sun King

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See you were soo helpful.. temper control must be 4:20 thanks dude...
yeah, don't worry about it, you will find rude people in every walk of life...RIU is no different

in the long run growing is cheaper and you have better control of what you smoke, and typically it's better smoke because you will take the time to cure it properly
 

FrozenChozen

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look buddy you're obviously looking for admiration, keep reading keep learning and most of all keep growing! as it stands where I live its cheaper to grow. its higher quality too....
here's your admiration:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
its all you're gonna get from me!
 

J.Mike

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look buddy you're obviously looking for admiration, keep reading keep learning and most of all keep growing! as it stands where I live its cheaper to grow. its higher quality too....
here's your admiration:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
its all you're gonna get from me!
Kind of a record of first hydro and what the heck I'm doing. Thought more plug and play, or plant and water (soil) so learning from my mistakes and using others ideas remedies to fix, kind of a hurried post, but still in veg and if people have the time, maybe help me with some advice along the way, i'm open , before I yank the whole thing out, but am on a budget for this w/o affecting my meds. appreciate your time, Frozen
 

Silky Shagsalot

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lol, wow!!! i guess that's why i don't read long posts. a lot of ouche's too. i suggest you grow in coco. soil is a bit of a hassle medium wise.
 

J.Mike

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Five plants, unsure strains or sex, Alpha -Red, Beta- Dark Blue, Gamma -purple, Delta -Lt. Blue, Epsilon-OrangeDSCN19751.jpg
Beta and Gamma strongest. yellowing leaves occured from ph/nute ignorance on my part. Plants have been severely stressed IMO, but seem ok in 18/6,
 

FrozenChozen

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that screen looks a bit high, with tiny little openings.... next time, try to bend the plant into a right angle under your screen... screen should be no more than 6-9 inches from the medium, and openings should be at least 1"x1" IMHO....
 

MarijuanaBug

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in my experience (not much) growing is cheaper more fun and more practical.
i got a small plot in my woods, just recently i decided to start paying attention to growing. but it has been doing fine for years,
i just go get some when i want it and let nature take its course. soo yeah.
 

J.Mike

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that screen looks a bit high, with tiny little openings.... next time, try to bend the plant into a right angle under your screen... screen should be no more than 6-9 inches from the medium, and openings should be at least 1"x1" IMHO....
Height 7", and squares 1", per someones post from RIU, wish I could give credit, but thanks, I used garden tape (plastic) for screen, total flexibility and lightweight, stalks can route over and under with little stress to plant, PVC frame to floor, If they pick it up can add height to legs..

New theory in test, lights and summer temp keep my grow to 80-88 F peaking to 93-5 F. Res maintains 78-83 (Room Temp) with my intake fan over a small bowl of water(for moisture) blowing directly on it. Have been adding water bottles to res but they last about an hour and little temp change.
Fact; blowing cool room air on res, keeps it cooler than box, Theory; so if I I placed my frozen bottle in water bowl, Fan will blow on frozen bottle cooling air more, blowing on res. possibly cooling box and temp? Will see, so far ice bottle lasted longer than an hour, no temp change yet.
 

J.Mike

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Big Changes, 3rd week into 12/12, 2weeks 444 GH Flora,micro,bloom,this week switched to 2/4/6. DSCN1982.JPG3 of 5 were male, so my scrog is greatly reduced. Males transplanted, lost one to flood, the others hanging around for seed production If they survive the heat. Still over 100 outside,,
AlphaDSCN1988.JPG the weakest(right), not showing specific hairs yet, but bud activity, very slow growth from the start.
GammaDSCN1983.JPG reflecting NL or poss. WW.DSCN1986.JPG Too early to tell but plant is very healthy as is its clone. on 12/12 in soil/perlite DSCN1989.JPG

5 day old Christmas tree seed. DSCN1990.JPG looking forward to this one.
 

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J.Mike

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5 weeks 12/12. H2o change, 2/4/6 GH. A fairly good week, dealing with mites and small roots issue. Alpha, finally showing some big improvement, DSCN2000.JPG, every branch heading up and lots of new bud sites, still unsure of strain. roots are twisting together in the culture, choking themselves out, (any suggestions), so I spray them off and separate to clean them out. Occurring in both plants. Got bugs, boxelder, need to research; edited (mild dish soap solution killed immediately, didn't even need to spray plants). mites, wiping leaves
Gamma taking 2/3 of screenDSCN2001.JPG and same root issue. But she is happy, Added camg, and bloom additives after initial feeding every other day . Between the 2, 1.25 gallons used during the week, most since I started, Would this be from the increased nutes?
stuck a few clones outside for a day and saved 1DSCN2003.JPG, back in the tub a week later and new sprouts, and starting more xmas tree seeds.

Had to build new tank with spare parts from my old sys, so only into it a few bucks more, and looking forward to a winter grow. Almost as much as this. Alpha left, Gamma right.DSCN2002.JPG
Thanks to all of you that unknowingly contributed to my potential yield. Thanks for the site RIU
 
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J.Mike

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6 wks 12/12, H2o change 2/4/6 GH nutes. ph 6.2, ppm 1200, H20 usage 1.75 gal. Both ladies showing good growth and bud sites,DSCN2004.JPG DSCN2005.JPG hoping for someone to possibly identify AlphaDSCN2007.JPG and GammaDSCN2006.JPG . Trichomes are visible so potency is a matter of strain. Growth was more than I expected, raised light 6 inches, gamma grew most of it..buds a bit small but shes been slow all along. That's all for now.
 

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Pass it Around

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those light brights are pretty cool where u get em


6 wks 12/12, H2o change 2/4/6 GH nutes. ph 6.2, ppm 1200, H20 usage 1.75 gal. Both ladies showing good growth and bud sites,View attachment 3239073 View attachment 3239074 hoping for someone to possibly identify AlphaView attachment 3239076 and GammaView attachment 3239075 . Trichomes are visible so potency is a matter of strain. Growth was more than I expected, raised light 6 inches, gamma grew most of it..buds a bit small but shes been slow all along. That's all for now.
 
its usually cheaper.. if its not cheaper.. your doing something wrong lol..

but really. if ur in cali.. GET YOUR HANDS ON SOME CLONES lol..

keep It simple.. and your good man..
 

farmasensist

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If your looking at the cost of growing you really have to seperate the one time set up costs for lights, tents, containers... from the continuous costs of water, electricity, net pots, nutes... i grow in DWC and my initial investment was high, but i've got my supply costs low by just using 2" net pots with no medium and a one part nute so all i really pay for now is electricity because water is cheap where i live. It might look like alot of money but you will see with each grow you need to buy less stuff. If you are legal to grow, why not do it outside? its probably too late in the season now but that would probably be the cheapest way to do it next year.
 
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