So I'm really only trying to an organic grow, because I don't like having to constantly feed synthetic mutes to my plants. Leaving the soil without any real nutrients. So basically what I'm asking is how or what can I use to make organic nutrients, relatively speaking, that are readily available for the plants to use as synthetic nutrients. I'm not having any issue with my plants at the moment but it never hurts to take extra measures before hand.
Is their any way to make organic nutrients more readily available for my plants?
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Rozgreenburn
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Hi, there are quite a few great super soil recipes here on the organics forum. I only switched over to organic growing 6 months so, I'm not the best guy to answer that. FWIW I am making The Rev's TLO super soil and wow, Healthier plants, better growth and most important, the tastes and smells are Wayyy better. Good luck...
Rozgreenburn
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I wonder why I haven't grown this way my whole luck
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Green_Alchemist
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You should check out organic compost teas, all organic amendments, and readily available. Brew for about 24-48 hours for best results.
you can use it for feeds, deficiencies or Foliar spray. Super awesome stuff!
edit: lots of recipes for whatever stage/condition your plant is in. Just started doing it myself, so not the most knowledgeable currently, great stuff though!
you can use it for feeds, deficiencies or Foliar spray. Super awesome stuff!
edit: lots of recipes for whatever stage/condition your plant is in. Just started doing it myself, so not the most knowledgeable currently, great stuff though!
Soul Dwella
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top dress bi-weekly, use recharge weekly.
Richard Drysift
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Very simple ...add worm castings. Compost is the key to it all; while npk & macro inputs are important it is active compost that drives everything. You can top dress, add ewc globally, or in tea form. The other thing is mycorrhizae which assists w/absorption; add granular myco in the hole at each transplant.
OSBuds
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KNF Online Resources – CHO GLOBAL NATURAL FARMING HAWAII
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Here are the nutrients I've bought this week. Fish fertilizer, bone meal, blood meal, and unsulfered molasses. What I do with all of them when I see a deficiency is have a gallon ready of it whatever I chose pre mixed with it. I'll shake it up twice a day even if I don't use it. Will that do if I'm not able to brew an actual compost tea for now.
I've always seen better results with organic grows. I tried using synthetic nutrients one time and it was enough to not want to ever don't again. I like doing it organic because you can re-use the soil without having to worry about it being lifeless or having too much ppm in nutrients.I wonder why I haven't grown this way my whole luck
Richard Drysift
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Thing about organics is once you see deficiencies it’s already you late to do much about it. That is because microbial activity is what releases nutrients to the soil through decomposition; everything must be broken down to elemental form in order to be absorbed by the mycorrhizae fungi attached to the root system.
The idea is to put everything into the soil way before there are plants in it to start the decomposition process so once there are all you need to do is water them. Giving teas or even just a simple worm casting top dressing helps maintain a high level of activity in the soil which keeps plants growing healthy. They know what to do...all you have to do is water them.
So to get to that point you’ll need to either start off with a good active organic mix to begin with or amend the soil with what you have and then let it set for like a month to let it “cook“ in which normalizes the ph and starts breaking down whatever you added in. If you have a decent bag mix already I suggest to just use it as is amend the soil after harvest. You can top dress w/blood or bone meal or what have you but it will take time to actually be available to the plants. This is why it is nearly impossible to burn plants with organic inputs. Whatever you do don’t skimp on the compost...
Yeah I think I've got the idea for the most part. I don't have any issues. I just want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly. I've already top dressed and gave some compost teas to them. So that when I grow my next crop I can use the same soil again for the most part. I've never really had any bad luck other than small harvests. I'm just trying to finally get that huge yield I see on everyone else's. Sometimes photos don't really show what is really their to see and I know it just takes time. I think what I have now will do great compared to anything else I've had though. So far I've got a really good, healthy crop. And by the time they're ready I'm sure they'll nice and fat. Thanks for all the advice.
youraveragehorticulturist
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The other guys touched on the major stuff.
Keep a strong group of microbes going to digest your amendments. Use compost or worm castings top dress, or Recharge or Tea something every couple of weeks to get more bacterias.
You can use a couple (like 2) Teaspoons of Molasses per 5 gallon bucket of water as a food source for your microbes. The molasses can go in the tea to feed microbes as you brew. Or you can water it into your soil after compost/EWC top dresses.
- maybe it's also possible to add a little molasses to your nutrient teas, to provide sugar for microbes. Theoretically the sugar could help the bacteria in your soil reproduce, and theoretically these extra microbes could help break down the nutrients in your tea so they're more usable by the plant.
You can also use humic or fulvic acid to help make nutrients in your soil easier to uptake more available.to your plants. You can use some kind of commercial product from the store. Or you can rely on natural humates in compost and just top dress with some regularly.
Your fish fertilizer has Nitrogen in the form of Amino Acids. Some of these amino acids make micronutrients more absorbable by plants. Some amino acids even stimulate your plants to take up More nutrients than they normally would. So in addition to using the fish fertilizer to address nitrogen deficiencies in your plant, Think about micro-dosing regularly with small amounts just make your nutrients more available.
What's up with your plants? Are you just starting out in veg? 3 weeks into flower? If they're small and young you shouldn't mess with them much. If they're bigger and older and have been depleting the soil in their pots for awhile you'll need to do more.
Keep a strong group of microbes going to digest your amendments. Use compost or worm castings top dress, or Recharge or Tea something every couple of weeks to get more bacterias.
You can use a couple (like 2) Teaspoons of Molasses per 5 gallon bucket of water as a food source for your microbes. The molasses can go in the tea to feed microbes as you brew. Or you can water it into your soil after compost/EWC top dresses.
- maybe it's also possible to add a little molasses to your nutrient teas, to provide sugar for microbes. Theoretically the sugar could help the bacteria in your soil reproduce, and theoretically these extra microbes could help break down the nutrients in your tea so they're more usable by the plant.
You can also use humic or fulvic acid to help make nutrients in your soil easier to uptake more available.to your plants. You can use some kind of commercial product from the store. Or you can rely on natural humates in compost and just top dress with some regularly.
Your fish fertilizer has Nitrogen in the form of Amino Acids. Some of these amino acids make micronutrients more absorbable by plants. Some amino acids even stimulate your plants to take up More nutrients than they normally would. So in addition to using the fish fertilizer to address nitrogen deficiencies in your plant, Think about micro-dosing regularly with small amounts just make your nutrients more available.
What's up with your plants? Are you just starting out in veg? 3 weeks into flower? If they're small and young you shouldn't mess with them much. If they're bigger and older and have been depleting the soil in their pots for awhile you'll need to do more.
As of right now I've managed to diagnose and fix any issues I had quite successfully. I just know good nutrients is the barrier I'm trying cross as far as finding that margin that's not too much or too little. I don't have any compost but I have blood meal, bone meal, fish fertilizer, and molasses. Theoretically I can use just that and that's all I would need to get a decent result correct? And I have two in mid flower and three more behind it just shooting out some stipules, and one more that just germinated. Like I said everything is fine exactly the way it is. I'm just trying to take the plants to the next level. I've already started some LST on the three that are younger and I've done the final defoliation on the big ones.
nl5xsk1
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So what you have will work, there are numerous replies and all are great. Growing is a journey, and for me I am reusing all my soil .
Build a soil has a re-amendment kit that works great for me. In 12 hour cycle. Only add water first 4 weeks, then I top dress 1 to two tablespoons of powder Gypsum and same amt Diatomaceous earth around my pots and cover with soil and water. It’s a never ending journey and I love the ride
Build a soil has a re-amendment kit that works great for me. In 12 hour cycle. Only add water first 4 weeks, then I top dress 1 to two tablespoons of powder Gypsum and same amt Diatomaceous earth around my pots and cover with soil and water. It’s a never ending journey and I love the ride
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