Is there a down side to keeping your gun locked in a safe?

desert dude · Dec 18, 2012

Washington, DC had a regulation on the books that said your gun must be dismantled and kept in separate parts in your home. Good idea?

canndo · Dec 18, 2012

It is a stupid idea based upon the widespread presumption eminating from the left that guns are a hobby or that they are used for hunting alone or plinking or perhaps if far enough away from PITA, varmit shooting.

cannabineer · Dec 18, 2012

It does limit their defensive utility. It seems like a very sneaky way to undercut the reason to own a gun in the city. cn

desert dude · Dec 18, 2012

cannabineer said:
It does limit their defensive utility. It seems like a very sneaky way to undercut the reason to own a gun in the city. cn

Indeed. This very point was addressed in the Heller decision.

st0wandgrow · Dec 18, 2012

desert dude said:
Washington, DC had a regulation on the books that said your gun must be dismantled and kept in separate parts in your home. Good idea?

Dumb idea. I don't own guns, and don't plan on buying one anytime soon, but even I can connect the dots here and see the flaws in this "logic". What would be the point in owning a gun to protect your home/family if you don't stand a reasonable chance of being able to assemble and use the gun??

desert dude · Dec 18, 2012

st0wandgrow said:
Dumb idea. I don't own guns, and don't plan on buying one anytime soon, but even I can connect the dots here and see the flaws in this "logic". What would be the point in owning a gun to protect your home/family if you don't stand a reasonable chance of being able to assemble and use the gun??

I agree. A very similar argument could be made against gun safes. Don't get me wrong, I own two gun safes, but I keep one gun "handy".

st0wandgrow · Dec 18, 2012

desert dude said:
I agree. A very similar argument could be made against gun safes. Don't get me wrong, I own two gun safes, but I keep one gun "handy".

This is one of the main reasons I don't own a gun. I have small children in my house. On one hand I have a strong desire to protect them from random nuts. On the other hand I could never in good conscience leave a pistol out accessible to them. The only option would then be a gun safe, and I really don't like my chances of being able to effectively use that weapon to protect my family if it is locked up in a safe and I need to get at it in a pinch.

So, a hockey stick under the bed it is! :-)

canndo · Dec 18, 2012

st0wandgrow said:
This is one of the main reasons I don't own a gun. I have small children in my house. On one hand I have a strong desire to protect them from random nuts. On the other hand I could never in good conscience leave a pistol out accessible to them. The only option would then be a gun safe, and I really don't like my chances of being able to effectively use that weapon to protect my family if it is locked up in a safe and I need to get at it in a pinch.

So, a hockey stick under the bed it is!

I see a need for gun safes if you value your weapons and don't want them to be stolen or handled by your children.

So what is better? a gun in a gun safe or no gun at all?

st0wandgrow · Dec 18, 2012

canndo said:
I see a need for gun safes if you value your weapons and don't want them to be stolen or handled by your children.

So what is better? a gun in a gun safe or no gun at all?

I don't know which is better.

I've opted for no gun.

nontheist · Dec 18, 2012

canndo said:
I see a need for gun safes if you value your weapons and don't want them to be stolen or handled by your children.

So what is better? a gun in a gun safe or no gun at all?

If I were a billionaire would be having this discussion on my yacht or private jet?

medicineman · Dec 18, 2012

Although I do have a gun safe to keep my vast supply of weapons and ammo safe, I also see the necessity of keeping one available firearm out of he safe for immediate protection. Even with that being said, I don't always have that firearm readily available. I usually keep it hidden in my headboard, which does me no good at all if intruders kick in my front door and isolate me from my bedroom. having two granddaughters, (Which are both schooled and aware of all my guns, their usage and safety concerns) still won't allow my conscience to let one stay in close proximity to me, Kind of a flawed situation. If my granddaughters didn't live with me, I'd more than likely keep one within reach at all times, not that I'm paranoid, just a realist. Home invasions are a fact of life, and if an invader was met with a 1911 with 258 grain hollow points, they would be going back out the door in one form or another, their choice.

desert dude · Dec 18, 2012

medicineman said:
Although I do have a gun safe to keep my vast supply of weapons and ammo safe, I also see the necessity of keeping one available firearm out of he safe for immediate protection. Even with that being said, I don't always have that firearm readily available. I usually keep it hidden in my headboard, which does me no good at all if intruders kick in my front door and isolate me from my bedroom. having two granddaughters, (Which are both schooled and aware of all my guns, their usage and safety concerns) still won't allow my conscience to let one stay in close proximity to me, Kind of a flawed situation. If my granddaughters didn't live with me, I'd more than likely keep one within reach at all times, not that I'm paranoid, just a realist. Home invasions are a fact of life, and if an invader was met with a 1911 with 258 grain hollow points, they would be going back out the door in one form or another, their choice.

Very similar to my own situation.

canndo · Dec 18, 2012

I got a text once from my sister in law. It said something along the lines of "your brother is outside of my room racking and reracking his shotgun and muttering that he would l love to see a bullet exiting from my head".

My brother has a collection of weapons and he is very angry that I insisted that his wife get a restraining order for him. As you know the instant that restraininig order is established, the person being restrained must surrender all of his weapons.

At what point are we obligated to interceed in a situation where there are guns present and controled by a man of questionable sanity?

ChesusRice · Dec 18, 2012

medicineman said:
Although I do have a gun safe to keep my vast supply of weapons and ammo safe, I also see the necessity of keeping one available firearm out of he safe for immediate protection. Even with that being said, I don't always have that firearm readily available. I usually keep it hidden in my headboard, which does me no good at all if intruders kick in my front door and isolate me from my bedroom. having two granddaughters, (Which are both schooled and aware of all my guns, their usage and safety concerns) still won't allow my conscience to let one stay in close proximity to me, Kind of a flawed situation. If my granddaughters didn't live with me, I'd more than likely keep one within reach at all times, not that I'm paranoid, just a realist. Home invasions are a fact of life, and if an invader was met with a 1911 with 258 grain hollow points, they would be going back out the door in one form or another, their choice.

You need a dog. They can give you the time to get to your defensive weapon of choice if needed

ginwilly · Dec 18, 2012

My mom keeps a 12 gauge unloaded under her bed. I don't think she even owns bullets.

She says she could never take another life just to protect her "stuff" but she doesn't mind scaring someone out of her house. Cocking a shotgun is an unmistakable sound. Her theory either gets people out of her house or gets her killed. Hopefully we never find out which.

cannabineer · Dec 18, 2012

canndo said:
I got a text once from my sister in law. It said something along the lines of "your brother is outside of my room racking and reracking his shotgun and muttering that he would l love to see a bullet exiting from my head".

My brother has a collection of weapons and he is very angry that I insisted that his wife get a restraining order for him. As you know the instant that restraininig order is established, the person being restrained must surrender all of his weapons.

At what point are we obligated to interceed in a situation where there are guns present and controled by a man of questionable sanity?

I would say "at the point where the intercession is no longer a pre-emption". cn

canndo · Dec 18, 2012

cannabineer said:
I would say "at the point where the intercession is no longer a pre-emption". cn

Am I reading this correctly"? you are saying that I should have waited until it was not pre-emption but a funeral?

cannabineer · Dec 18, 2012

canndo said:
Am I reading this correctly"? you are saying that I should have waited until it was not pre-emption but a funeral?

No; I am not saying that. Intercede where there is a specific demonstrable danger. That guy talking crazy talk while fondling a weapon surely qualifies. But it is another continuum situation depending on what counts as pre-emption, and I would want a marker somewhere on that slippery slope that delineates acceptable behavior with a gun or guns. Jmo. cn

ginjawarrior · Dec 18, 2012

canndo said:
At what point are we obligated to interceed in a situation where there are guns present and controled by a person of questionable sanity?

fixed that for you

CSI Stickyicky · Dec 18, 2012

Stupid idea. If you need a gun for protection, you need it ready to use.

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