Rickypsimer
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Can I use this alongside My Fox Forest ocean forest and tiger bloom during flower
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Is this flowerfluel good stuff any body ever use?
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cannabineer
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Fox forest ocean farm ??
Rickypsimer
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Thanks
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Always a pleasure
Richard Drysift
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That is not organic but then again neither is tiger bloom. Got anything against using a slow release fertilizer?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
If you know how to ride that wave, why not cowabunga?
Rickypsimer
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No not necessarily
Richard Drysift
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I have no idea what’s in that stuff but I wouldn’t use it. There was a time when you’d get flamed just for mentioning tiger bloom in the organic section but at least it’s nice to see so much activity these days. The Monsanto haters must be self quarantining without internet access. This is the organic section; can only give you organic advice. You can always resort to nutes if you want but I think they suck. I do not recommend their use but understand the appeal of their convenience. You are using distilled water so I suggest giving a soluble cal/mag like gen organic calmag+ at least until you can amend with macronutrients. If you are just going to use nutrients then why bother using distilled water?
If you just fertilize the soil at the beginning or just before transplants you won’t have to dump nutes on them. I like to use composted chicken manure myself but cow or something veganic like kelp meal can also work. Jobes fertilizer spikes are very easy; just plug em in the soil near the outer edge of the container. Adding granular mycorrhizae helps with absorbtion; probly work much better than baking soda.
Read through the sticky threads at the top of this section; you won’t see anyone using baking soda to adjust ph. In soil the ph is regulated by microbial activity. If you add a small amount of raw active organic material that should drop the ph slightly. If you add in a lot it could up to 30 days to cook in and normalize ph into the proper range for absorbtion. Fertilizers, mineral inputs, and compost all work together to feed the microlife that in turn feeds the plants.
If you just fertilize the soil at the beginning or just before transplants you won’t have to dump nutes on them. I like to use composted chicken manure myself but cow or something veganic like kelp meal can also work. Jobes fertilizer spikes are very easy; just plug em in the soil near the outer edge of the container. Adding granular mycorrhizae helps with absorbtion; probly work much better than baking soda.
Read through the sticky threads at the top of this section; you won’t see anyone using baking soda to adjust ph. In soil the ph is regulated by microbial activity. If you add a small amount of raw active organic material that should drop the ph slightly. If you add in a lot it could up to 30 days to cook in and normalize ph into the proper range for absorbtion. Fertilizers, mineral inputs, and compost all work together to feed the microlife that in turn feeds the plants.
PadawanWarrior
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Listen to this ^^^^^^^^^. Drysift finally convinced me to get some chicken shit, and it's now one of my favorite amendments. I have to agree with everything he said. I'm not fond of Fox Farm bottled nutes, except maybe Big Bloom. Love the FFOF though.
Rickypsimer
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So what do I do just buy some chickenshit online or find some from a friend and put it on the top of my soil and water it in
PadawanWarrior
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I bought mine off Build a Soil, but Drysift uses another kind. He's the real pro to ask about chicken shit, since I just recently added it to my list of amendments. All I can say is the one I bought doesn't really smell, but they are out of the 2 gallon bags now, so you would have to get the 25 pounder, but next time I might actually order that size instead, lol.
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Richard Drysift
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Charlie’s compost brand is what I use. It’s just fertilizer. Cheap too; $18 for a 10 lb bag on amazon last time I checked. If you are using nutrients the dissolved salts can dry out the bacteria in it that feeds the plants. So it only makes sense to use with just plain water only and/or nutrients that are safe for living soils. A handful per container feeds for weeks. I just swoosh it around in the bottom layer of soil when I build my pots but you can top dress with it. I also recommend using mycorrhizae and crushed oyster shell which will keep ph in range and help with absorbtion.
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Diesel0889
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Man we do things a tad differently but I remember why I like hanging around @Richard Drysift. Solid info and always willing to help a new or struggling grower. (need more members like this at RIU!) Hope all is well been a while!
I'm currently useing Malibu compost in my coots mix but I dig the chicken as well. As mentioned BAS has a fantastic one I used before...
Did I misunderstand the baking powder comment. I use very small pinch to bring ph up in my water, for example 6.1 to 6.5. I have never seen a negative impact from useing it! School me if you have something to add. Only use I have for it in my bed though!
Richard Drysift
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No just never tried using baking soda to adjust ph. Did not even know that was a thing. Then again I’ve never really given ph a second thought since growing in living soil. All I do is add vermicompost, fertilizers, and a few minerals and let it set for a month. Now I’ve been schooled...