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Corso312

Corso312

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I would think any hair from human or animal would be a positive, any fingernails or toenails etc... If its organic and dead or decaying. A shark fin chopped into powder would probably be great or the teeth and bones of a lemur... Know what I mean?
 
calliandra

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anzohaze said:
So as I have been reading I see for ex @greasemonkeymann says dog hair human air etc. I will Google shit and can never find valid info. Were do you get all yalls info? Other gardening site , just listening to others.. I look shit up but can't find a damn thinknon human hair having nitrogen etc in it and avaliable..

WERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO?
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Yeah I hear you on that. Actually I often find it difficult to find the kind of information I'd like too.
Whereby IMO it also has to do with the fact that there are different interpretations of how plants grow and what they really need - the "chemical" model, which has been mainstream for the past 60 years or so, and the more organic view, that speaks of endocytosis and the roots actually "eating" microbes :) When they get mixed up, which they often do, I tend to get confused haha
 
DonBrennon

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If you read enough websites about composting you'll find a few with comprehensive lists of materials which can be used, human and animal hair are listed as high nitrogen additions to a compost pile. With a few exceptions, usually also listed, practically all organic matter will add benefits to compost.
 
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anzohaze

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Yes I agree but like my friend grease hyroot etc they have so much knowledge I feel like they have a text book or.a college book or.setting to gain this info.. I just don't see peoole spending hours apon hours looking up human hair for an answer then looking up this or that.. it would take ages.to.do.all that so.just seeing if someone has alot of cliff noted.or a book that help show.all the different possible ammendments etc
 
DonBrennon

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I don't think they/we know these things by specifically searching out hair, as per your example, but by reading about broader subjects such as the pdf I've attached, it doesn't contain info on hair, but it does have feather meal which is a similar material. You pick these things up, some of it sticks, some of it don't.
 

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greasemonkeymann

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anzohaze said:
So as I have been reading I see for ex @greasemonkeymann says dog hair human air etc. I will Google shit and can never find valid info. Were do you get all yalls info? Other gardening site , just listening to others.. I look shit up but can't find a damn thinknon human hair having nitrogen etc in it and avaliable..

WERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO?
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good morning my friend
So, I get almost 100% of my information from reading..
Sadly I have severe attention issues, but to the myopic degree, not like deficit, but that sorta is a curse. My brain just won't slow the fuck down, one of the reasons I started smoking pot at an early age. I gotta "feed" the brain gerbil in my head, or he starts spinning too much on his hamster-wheel.. Anyways, I love growing plants of all types, i'm also fascinated by homesteading.
If I recall the absolute first time I read about hair as an input for nitrogen was in an ed Rosenthal book, from the early 90s, the old school spiral bound one (a lot of misinformation there, but a good read nonetheless)
Also feather meal and hair are extremely similar in their makeup.
But homesteading sites man.... good shit on those sites..
But I have probably at least 10-12 books on horticulture, houseplants, veggies, roses, etc.
here is a good site, with the information you're curious about.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/human-hair-fertilizer.aspx
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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DonBrennon said:
I don't think they/we know these things by specifically searching out hair, as per your example, but by reading about broader subjects such as the pdf I've attached, it doesn't contain info on hair, but it does have feather meal which is a similar material. You pick these things up, some of it sticks, some of it don't.
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just gotta be broad in the search.
hair+plant+nutrients and bingo
I can't say it's my idea, they've been using it for probably thousands of years.
I just do it cuz the feather meal is loaded with arsenic
plus my dog manufacturers hair at an alarming rate..
 
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calliandra

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greasemonkeymann said:
good morning my friend
So, I get almost 100% of my information from reading..
Sadly I have severe attention issues, but to the myopic degree, not like deficit, but that sorta is a curse. My brain just won't slow the fuck down, one of the reasons I started smoking pot at an early age. I gotta "feed" the brain gerbil in my head, or he starts spinning too much on his hamster-wheel.. Anyways, I love growing plants of all types, i'm also fascinated by homesteading.
If I recall the absolute first time I read about hair as an input for nitrogen was in an ed Rosenthal book, from the early 90s, the old school spiral bound one (a lot of misinformation there, but a good read nonetheless)
Also feather meal and hair are extremely similar in their makeup.
But homesteading sites man.... good shit on those sites..
But I have probably at least 10-12 books on horticulture, houseplants, veggies, roses, etc.
here is a good site, with the information you're curious about.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/human-hair-fertilizer.aspx
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Ah so jealous! And you can remember all that too!
My brain decided to stop cooperating a few years ago and now it's not only slow but refuses to remember anything - otoh I also do not remember pesky stuff I used to have floating around in my head uselessly - very peaceful that!
Just to say that every curse also contains its own blessing :bigjoint:
 
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anzohaze

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greasemonkeymann said:
just gotta be broad in the search.
hair+plant+nutrients and bingo
I can't say it's my idea, they've been using it for probably thousands of years.
I just do it cuz the feather meal is loaded with arsenic
plus my dog manufacturers hair at an alarming rate..
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I got ya.. I read alot but I can't comprehend a damn thing. I have to read the same page 3 times atleast to understand what the fuck I read. On threads I read shit 2 times to make sure I read correctly. I should learn to recheck my typing on this site but I don't and send shit screwed up. I have a galaxy s5 phone and the predictive text sucks it's adds its own words, changes words, and the the period is to close to the space bar or my finger is to short to hit the space bar so I hit the period button alot.. anyways enough blabbing.

Is there any books that you have found to be more helpful then others for general organic growing i know any garden book will work and i have a few old ones but is there any newer ones that should be a def buy deal. I have the gotta have ones teaming w microbes etc
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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calliandra said:
Ah so jealous! And you can remember all that too!
My brain decided to stop cooperating a few years ago and now it's not only slow but refuses to remember anything - otoh I also do not remember pesky stuff I used to have floating around in my head uselessly - very peaceful that!
Just to say that every curse also contains its own blessing :bigjoint:
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shit.. I got so much useless information in my head
ohm specifications on cars I don't fix anymore, old girlfriends phone numbers, engine displacements for almost every car made in the last 30 yrs.
I guess it's better than not retaining any information at all...
but really?
how important is it to know the cheat code for Contra on the original NES, or where the warp zones are on super Mario bros 3, or where the upgrades are for castlevania...
Ugh...
Birthdays for friends I haven't seen in three decades.
And yet my short term memory is... well... shit.
I'm stone cold sober all day and sometimes I got ask customers which car was theirs... but I pull it off all right
 
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anzohaze

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greasemonkeymann said:
shit.. I got so much useless information in my head
ohm specifications on cars I don't fix anymore, old girlfriends phone numbers, engine displacements for almost every car made in the last 30 yrs.
I guess it's better than not retaining any information at all...
but really?
how important is it to know the cheat code for Contra on the original NES, or where the warp zones are on super Mario bros 3, or where the upgrades are for castlevania...
Ugh...
Birthdays for friends I haven't seen in three decades.
And yet my short term memory is... well... shit.
I'm stone cold sober all day and sometimes I got ask customers which car was theirs... but I pull it off all right
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Lol life and it's wonderful problems... yall busy been busy? We have been slow since the week of Christmas but have been busy today.. and retaining imo on cars customers etc. I remeber almost every customer by name and car. I remember so much useless shit about cars. Some days I wish I could smoke the non important shit away..
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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anzohaze said:
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I got ya.. I read alot but I can't comprehend a damn thing. I have to read the same page 3 times atleast to understand what the fuck I read. On threads I read shit 2 times to make sure I read correctly. I should learn to recheck my typing on this site but I don't and send shit screwed up. I have a galaxy s5 phone and the predictive text sucks it's adds its own words, changes words, and the the period is to close to the space bar or my finger is to short to hit the space bar so I hit the period button alot.. anyways enough blabbing.

Is there any books that you have found to be more helpful then others for general organic growing i know any garden book will work and i have a few old ones but is there any newer ones that should be a def buy deal. I have the gotta have ones teaming w microbes etc
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if you read while you are really baked, I have the same problem. Problem is my brain will have a rhetoric about whatever, while my eyes are reading the words to nobody in my head.
Awesome.
But yea, unless I am reaaally into what i'm reading, I retain it all much better if I am sober.
But a good fiction novel or science fiction while you are baked is awesome, as long as your eyes and brain are listening to each other...
If you follow me..
Its hard to say which reads are the best, I can't say I gathered a large amount of info from anywhere in particular, really, it's sorta like working on cars, each day you learn a lil something, and over time you accrue a good arsenal of knowledge.
homestead sites are really good for the compost procedure, and since I've done that, growing has been WAY easier with better results. Can't beat that.
I've also learned a lot by screwing up and tinkering with stuff too..
But every year for the past 25 yrs I've done three to 5 harvests, and you learn a lil from that.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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anzohaze said:
Lol life and it's wonderful problems... yall busy been busy? We have been slow since the week of Christmas but have been busy today.. and retaining imo on cars customers etc. I remeber almost every customer by name and car. I remember so much useless shit about cars. Some days I wish I could smoke the non important shit away..
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biz is weird... smogs are up, repairs are down..
I did more smogs in four hours than I did the entire previous week..
weird.
Ready for another long weekend, I've been sorta grumpy since christmas
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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brimck325 said:
i think it would take a long time for hair to break down n be useful. septic tanks are full of it and corpses years old still have hair. maybe being in actual contact with earth and its bacteria break it down quicker?
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between 6months and 2 yrs, they key is the microbes. In a sewage tank there is NO oxygen.
the fulvic and humic acids created during the compost pile breaks it down.
I mean when you think about it.. if bonemeals can break down... hair ain't nothing
 
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anzohaze

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greasemonkeymann said:
biz is weird... smogs are up, repairs are down..
I did more smogs in four hours than I did the entire previous week..
weird.
Ready for another long weekend, I've been sorta grumpy since christmas
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yes we don't have smog here but the entire shop has turned 50 hours and that's it. The guys are turn 20 hours a week roughly but today and yesterday had been good. Today I have done t belt valve covers water pump on a exterra 3.3. A ps pump and flush on odyssey. Pretty good day so far.. are yall working tomorrow? I have a firework stand that I own so I am hoping to shut the shop down around 2 and finish the day with fireworks
 
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