Leaf drooping

the leaves on these things are drooping like crazy and i cant figure out whats wrong with them, just switched soil thinking it might be over watering and moved the lights down to about 6 inches from the tops. using a mini sunburst 150 watt hps, is it over/underwatering? or should time be given to acclimate the new lighting or should the light be moved again
 

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Jack Harer

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Over watering and under watering symptoms are almost identical. Could you have been underwatering?
 
could have been how soaked is the soil suppose to be i decided to give it water since i just changed the soil, if its been doing this for only 2 or 3 days and like i said the other soil was soaked. The root system underneath looks good though so i might try and go with more water
 

Jack Harer

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I would water until you get run-off. Then lift the pot to feel it's weight. Then let it dry out quite a bit, again lift the pot and feel it's dry weight. That will give you a good idea of when to water. The roots need to dry between waterings to oxygenate.
 
i watered a good amount and they perked up a bit....I'm still convinced that ive overwatered but i changed the soil and watered with about half a gallon of water. that should be sufficient so should i wait it out at this point? the frustrating part is i dont know if this is even worth it because they obviously can't be sexed yet
 

Jack Harer

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Now let them dry out pretty well. Then water again. You said the old soil was pretty well soaked, so they probably sat in water for a while. The lower soil can be moist while the top looks dry.
 

bigjesse1922

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Keeping your light six inches from the top of the plant at that age could be greatly contributing to the issue as well, even a 150 watt HPS.
 

Sp32

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I was always told to put the light as close as possible without it burning the plants even though I never did but still, that's what I was told.

Also the best way to test if your soil is wet or not is by brushing off the loose dirt at the top of the pot with your hand and then sticking your finger into the soil. If the soil looks dark compared to the soil you just brushed off don't add any water, if the soil is bone dry and a light brown water the plant.

When you poke your finger in the pot you can usually tell if it needs watering or not.
 

CEEJR

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Place your hand above the plant palm down. Raise the light till it dosen't burn your hand then go an inch or two higher.
 

bigjesse1922

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I was always told to put the light as close as possible without it burning the plants even though I never did but still, that's what I was told.
Generally, it's best to keep the light as close as possible. But not when a plant is just starting out.

Also the best way to test if your soil is wet or not is by brushing off the loose dirt at the top of the pot with your hand and then sticking your finger into the soil. If the soil looks dark compared to the soil you just brushed off don't add any water, if the soil is bone dry and a light brown water the plant.
No, this is not the best method to test if you need to water a plant. It's not an effective method whatsoever.

The plant should NEVER get "bone dry." The soil should be moist, but not wet. If the soil has started to suck away from the side of the pot, you have waited too long.

When you poke your finger in the pot you can usually tell if it needs watering or not.
Lifting your plants and using their weight as an indicator of when it's time to water again, along with the overall look of the plant and the feel of the soil, is the best method.
 
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