Leaves shadow - Enhance lights (Pictures included)

joweed

Active Member
Hello growers, once again Im here with a question :D
Allways learning... :eyesmoke:

Today, I just cutted the most, or in this case, all of the singular leaves that were making shade to the rest of the (new) starting buds. What y'all think? Am I done it right?

THE PICTURES BELOW ARE BEFORE THE CUTS... ALL THOSE BIG LEAVES THAT U SEE I JUST DID CUT IT OUT. FEEDBACK PLEASE!
Check the pictures:

 
ohh shes beautiful, man your plant puts my week old baby to shame, seeing this makes me happy that im choosing to grow, my first grow so i cant help you much but i think it looks beautiful.. Shes a hottie!
 

joweed

Active Member
Yoo, thanks for the super positive feedback Eddie :D
The problem is that my baby its a lil old already. She got almost 45 days. :P

I cutted the big leaves (big ones) that were making shadow to the mini buds starting to appear on the downside of the plant...
Still wondering.

PEACE!
 

darkdestruction420

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Thats a bad idea, its the fan leaves that absorb light and make energy for the developing budsites. It's just giving your plant less energy to grow with. In the future if you feel you must expose lower budsites simply get a piece of string and tape and tie the leaf/leaves out of the way, it takes about 5-10 seconds to do so.
 

joweed

Active Member
Thanks for reply darkdestruction420, thats precisely what Ive done before. After I read somewhere to cut big ones to light penetration... So what do I do now for my big aparently mistake?
 

darkdestruction420

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Take it as a lesson learned. How far into flowering are you? Their really isnt anything you can do now. Oh well, at least you now know better, its a common mistake made by newer growers. it will probally just shock it a bit and then the smaller fan leaves on the plant will become even bigger to take the ones you cut offs place. I see people on here do this all the time and while it is a pretty big mistake its not the end of the world, if it was later in flowering it would of been alot bigger of a deal.
 

joweed

Active Member
So, now do you think it can damage the buds grow? Do you think this is gonna steal energy to create greater buds? Or it just stressed to much the plant?
 

darkdestruction420

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Both, the buds will not be getting as much energy so it will slow down growth compared to what it would of been. It does also stress the plant, it just lost its main and most effecient energy sources and all the energy the plant had stored up in the leaves.
 

tamjam69

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i didnt write this but i saw Bricktop post this to someone a couple days ago, so all credit to bricktop


  • Fan leaves are the largest most efficient solar collectors plants have. They absorb the largest amount of light rays and transform it into energy. Large fan leaves are factories where sugars/carbohydrates are created and stored for later use, as in for use during periods of darkness when plants operated on stored energy, etc.

    Any healthy plant will attempt to replace any lost healthy foliage, until fairly well along in flowering anyway. When you remove fan leaves a healthy plant will divert energy that would otherwise be used for continued upward/outward growth, and when in flower for bud production and also THC production, and use it to attempt to replace the lost healthy foliage.

    The idea of removing fan leaves is based in a flawed pseudo-logic. People assume a plant has X amount of energy to use and then assume that those large fan leaves have to use a great deal of energy plus they shade buds from direct light and of course people assume you have to have buds flooded with light. Well when you remove the healthy fan leaves the amount of energy plants had to rely on, X, is dropped to P. Then the P amount of energy is in part diverted to replace the lost healthy foliage and the rest of the plant then has K amount of energy to rely on for growth and bud development.

    Many people do not realize the importance of fan leaves and they do not understand how plants actually work, what they do, how they react to different things. Something else some, or maybe even many do not know is that on average 85% of light that strikes a leaf passes through. On average a leaf will only collect 15% of the light that strikes it and again, the rest passes through the leaf to then strike lower leaves.

    Do not remove large fan leaves unless you want to reduce your plants capabilities to function as they normally do.​





  • A reprint of a similar question and a reply from Uncle Ben:



  • >Is it a good idea to remove fan leaves that block light to the lower branches or will this take energy away from the flowering?
    >

    Uncle Ben:
    Rottytown and Joey gave a solid explanation that is botanically based. Leaves are the lifeblood of the plant... with a caveat - they have to be functional and productive. If those leaves are healthy and green and receiving good decent light, "leave" 'em alone. If they are yellow or prone to fungus attack, they can be safely removed without detriment to the plant's health as they are contributing little if any value regarding food production - and this is The Key. If they are quite low on the plant and not receiving much light, then mother nature has a way of first taking the goodies from the leaf and it's petiole (removing stored food reserves/metabolites) and dropping the leaves anyway - moot point, eh?

    >Even though I've tied the branches down horizontally, many branches are now shaded by large fan leaves.
    >

    Don't worry about shading branches, worry about shading leaves. Lower branches will always be shaded if your main light source is overhead. Add side lighting or use highly efficient side reflecting panels to alleviate this situation to a degree.

    BTW, notice how large fan leaves are? Ever wondered why? It's because they are the most efficient food producing unit for the plant. It's your call (while understanding their function) regarding what to do with them at any given point in time.

    >The lights have been on 12/12 for about 3 weeks and the plants are flowering if this helps.
    >

    I grow the most amount of foliage going into 12/12 as possible. While folks are doing the 15-30-15 thingie, I'm providing plenty of N to support foliage production. In general, lot's of foliage=lot's of flowers. Once sexed and the stretch is over, then you need to back off the N and increase the P and K with a blend like Peter's Blossom Booster, an excellent blend from an old pro who I hit on once in a while. Call Jack up, he's a great resource - http://www.jrpeters.com/moreblooms.html

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    IOW, why would you remove the very unit that produces the plant's flowers smoothburn? Because someone parroted what someone else parroted that was parroted 10 years ago...... none of them understanding that botany is more important than following bad advise perpetuated by The Herd?​



 

joweed

Active Member
Damn.... why dont I ask BEFORE I made this shit to my baby... Well explained, and I give credit for both, the guy who wrote, and YOU that shared with me that undismiss and important information.

Thanks once again... So what do I do to recover this? I think nothing... :S
 

joweed

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I just did take pictures some minutes ago... check my mistake:







DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME!! FO SHO
 

joweed

Active Member
If you notice, my leaves are curling down, and some curling up... dunno if theres any problem with micro nutrients, but I think this is over humidity.
I dont need to water for 1 week, sometimes almost 2 weeks they dont drink all the water inside the container.

Now im tryin to use a dehumidifier to check if the issue is solved.
 
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