LEMON GARLIC OG - OUTDOOR

What’s up everybody? I used to look around on the forums and kind of watch from afar. I’m doing my first SOLO outdoor grow and I’m somewhat knowledgeable. However there are things I have questions about and am hoping to get pointers/advice on.

I got my lemon garlic OG clone and put it right outside. I’m not currently at home, so I can’t remeber all the exact details of my set up. I’m using necatr of the gods #4 for soil and am using an organic grow nutrient for now.

I took my clone and put it straight in a five gallon bucket around June 15th. I talked with the guy at my local grow shop about putting a clone straight outside without any veg period and he said it would be okay. Can anyone confirm this for me? I know it probably would have done much better had I vegged it out before moving it outside but that wasn’t an option.

It’s growing well and seems to be healthy so far. I topped it about two weeks ago and this last weekend trained it to open up the middle of the plant.

I’ve posted here for some sort of confirmation and help. I’m just worried that it’s getting stringy and may not turn out very well....someone please put me at ease! Haha.

I’d like to keep everyone up to speed with my grow and turn it essentially into a grow journal, so this post may need to be moved. So I apologize for that too. I just wanted to get the discussion going.

Anyone else try this strain out? It’s a hybrid that’s indica dominant. I wanted a short stalky plant as this is just a backyard grow.

Hoping people will chime in! Look forward to hearing from you all and best of luck! Let me know what you think of my baby! Haha

These are pictures of my plant so far...about two weeks in. Straight from clone to outside. Chime in please!

Looks good. Maybe trim some of the lowest buds sites off and you should get more vigorous upward growth.

Looks healthy, how many hours of direct light does she get? That'll influence her height a lot. Especially if there's any period of dappled shade from a tree, that'll trigger stretching.

Zephyrs said:

Looks good. Maybe trim some of the lowest buds sites off and you should get more vigorous upward growth.

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Lowest bud sites? Like where it’s starting to kinda bunch up with lots of little leaves? Just pull those out?

CanadianJim said:

Looks healthy, how many hours of direct light does she get? That'll influence her height a lot. Especially if there's any period of dappled shade from a tree, that'll trigger stretching.

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It gets direct sunlight from about 11:00 AM for the rest of the afternoon or more of it. In the mornings there is some shade from trees though. If it was at my house I would move it every day and spoil it but I can’t . Doesn’t it look kinda stretched? It’s an indica so I expected it to be short and compact. Lemme know what you think...I appreciate your guys’ input too!

Iheartoregon said:

Lowest bud sites? Like where it’s starting to kinda bunch up with lots of little leaves? Just pull those out?

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Yes, doing that will aim the growth hormones upwards instead of all the lowest sites hogging the hormone, which is called auxins if memory serves correct.

Zephyrs said:

Yes, doing that will aim the growth hormones upwards instead of all the lowest sites hogging the hormone, which is called auxins if memory serves correct.

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Haha appreciate it man, thanks!

I expected that from an indica dominant hybrid I'm growing, she looked like a sativa with indica leaves until I started moving her around to get another hour or two of sun. Then she started to fill out. My Bakerstreet, which is a Hindu Kush landrace indica, kinda slowed her upward growth around four feet, and is now about 3 times as bushy as she was when that happened, and she's in the ground. So yours may start to bush out when she gets a bit more height. You could also top her, that would stimulate side branch growth and keep her shorter. You have probably until the 21st 22nd to do that.

CanadianJim said:

I expected that from an indica dominant hybrid I'm growing, she looked like a sativa with indica leaves until I started moving her around to get another hour or two of sun. Then she started to fill out. My Bakerstreet, which is a Hindu Kush landrace indica, kinda slowed her upward growth around four feet, and is now about 3 times as bushy as she was when that happened, and she's in the ground. So yours may start to bush out when she gets a bit more height. You could also top her, that would stimulate side branch growth and keep her shorter. You have probably until the 21st 22nd to do that.

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Yeah I just was worried mine was getting too stringy early on. The stem is super healthy and as you can see it started to slowly build some bushiness. I’m gonna do like zephyrs said and zap those low growing bunches. I wish I could move it around but I have work all day and am pretty busy.

I also topped it early on. I’m not sure if you can tell in the pictures but there are like three or four branches that I’m training out to the sides of the plant. You think I should top if again? Would that make it a pain when I have to trim later?

Iheartoregon said:

Yeah I just was worried mine was getting too stringy early on. The stem is super healthy and as you can see it started to slowly build some bushiness. I’m gonna do like zephyrs said and zap those low growing bunches. I wish I could move it around but I have work all day and am pretty busy.

I also topped it early on. I’m not sure if you can tell in the pictures but there are like three or four branches that I’m training out to the sides of the plant. You think I should top if again? Would that make it a pain when I have to trim later?

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Trim? You mean like at harvest? Or are you going to lollipop her?
Yeah it can be a pain to move them around, especially the first year when you have to figure out where in your yard the sun will be when you get home from work, if the sun is even still up, depending on your job. If you do decide to top her too, let her get some recovery time in after you remove the lower bunches, don't want to stress her out too much.

CanadianJim said:

Trim? You mean like at harvest? Or are you going to lollipop her?
Yeah it can be a pain to move them around, especially the first year when you have to figure out where in your yard the sun will be when you get home from work, if the sun is even still up, depending on your job. If you do decide to top her too, let her get some recovery time in after you remove the lower bunches, don't want to stress her out too much.

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Yeah I was talking about trimming at harvest. Like having a whole bunch of little buds as opposed to a handful of larger ones. Does the plant produce a certain amount, and then depending on how many branches it has, does is distribute that amount throughout? Or if you have more branches you are capable of having more buds total? .....does that make sense? Haha.

So not just getting rid of the lower leaves, but some of the branches as well?


Sorry to ask so many questions but I appreciate your input too!

Iheartoregon said:

Yeah I was talking about trimming at harvest. Like having a whole bunch of little buds as opposed to a handful of larger ones. Does the plant produce a certain amount, and then depending on how many branches it has, does is distribute that amount throughout? Or if you have more branches you are capable of having more buds total? .....does that make sense? Haha.

So not just getting rid of the lower leaves, but some of the branches as well?


Sorry to ask so many questions but I appreciate your input too!

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No problem, I've asked plenty here!
The buds on a topped plant are a bit smaller, but the total harvest is more. Like if a plant produces a 10 gram top bud, a topped plant produces two 7.5 gram top buds. Each branch will have it's own load, but that's also influenced by the amount of light getting to each bud site. That's one of the reasons outdoor plants can outproduce indoor, aside from the larger root area.

CanadianJim said:

No problem, I've asked plenty here!
The buds on a topped plant are a bit smaller, but the total harvest is more. Like if a plant produces a 10 gram top bud, a topped plant produces two 7.5 gram top buds. Each branch will have it's own load, but that's also influenced by the amount of light getting to each bud site. That's one of the reasons outdoor plants can outproduce indoor, aside from the larger root area.

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Awesome, thanks for the explanation. So if I DO top it again, would I just be topping the main branch, or should I top these secondary branches that have sprouted as a result of the first time I topped it?

Iheartoregon said:

Awesome, thanks for the explanation. So if I DO top it again, would I just be topping the main branch, or should I top these secondary branches that have sprouted as a result of the first time I topped it?

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If you're trying to keep the plant itself shorter you should top the main stem, which should be two now right? You coud top the side branches, especially if they're strong enough, and have enough support. That's a judgement call, does the increased yield justify the extra work. And you can try your hand at cloning using the tops you take off, if they have enough nodes.

CanadianJim said:

If you're trying to keep the plant itself shorter you should top the main stem, which should be two now right? You coud top the side branches, especially if they're strong enough, and have enough support. That's a judgement call, does the increased yield justify the extra work. And you can try your hand at cloning using the tops you take off, if they have enough nodes.

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All good ideas. I’ll top the top two, and try to use those for clones. I’m gonna have work to do anyways, so why not increase the yield. Plus, I’m only doing one plant, so I better just go all out haha.

I personally never got clones to work out for me. I just don't have the knack. But there are lots of threads on here that should help you. The strains I've grown are supposed to be hard to clone anyway. Since yours started out as a clone, you might have a better chance.

Alright, so just to clarify, I’ve added closer up pictures of my intended plans haha. I’m gonna top those two main branches that are heading pretty much straight up, and then I’m just gonna pluck all that down low stuff out. Think it’ll shock the plant too much if I do all that at the same time? Maybe I’ll just top those two branches first? Thoughts?

If you do it all at the same time it'll be a lot of stress, on the other hand you should have about a month for her to recover. Personally, I would space it out, give her maybe two weeks between. After topping, she may put some energy into bushing out those side branches. You might find that the bits down low shoot up. If they get enough light they may surprise you. Or you could be even more certain that they have to go.

CanadianJim said:

If you do it all at the same time it'll be a lot of stress, on the other hand you should have about a month for her to recover. Personally, I would space it out, give her maybe two weeks between. After topping, she may put some energy into bushing out those side branches. You might find that the bits down low shoot up. If they get enough light they may surprise you. Or you could be even more certain that they have to go.

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Alright good point. I’m gonna top those two as soon as possible and then see how things go. You’re right, that may kick those lower branches into gear and they could shoot up. No work tomorrow for the fourth so I’m gonna do it then. I’ll keep the updates coming. Thanks to everyone for chiming in and helping out!