Lights and Strain Advice for First Time

Hey guys,

This is my first post here and I'd first just like to say thank god for rollitup. I've been lurking for days researching because I've finally decided to embark on a small closet project. I'm starting from scratch here and have no materials other than what may be lying around my house.

I figured two plants is all I feel like taking on at first, and I've decided to use the 5 gal. DWC Bucket hydroponic method. So I'm going to be set up with two buckets in a self-made grow-box in a closet.

It's been very tough to find what lighting would be optimal yet not out of reach financially (The cheaper the better). Does anyone have any suggestions on what lights I should buy for my situation?

Also, there are so many strains from seedbanks that it makes it difficult to choose, although I know I would probably be fine with one of the highly recommended strains. I'm looking forward to the project but in the end the goal is to relatively quickly harvest the two highest yields I can. And I loves me some crazy Sativa. So I guess what I'm looking for in a strain is: A Sativa or mostly Sativa that'll kick my ass, doesn't have too long of a growing period, has high yields, and is also resilient to account for my potential freshman mistakes. Not even sure if something like that exists, but it's ideal for me. And you all of course know a lot more than I do, so what would you now recommend for my first grow and for this setup?

Thank you so much for your time and feedback! :weed:
 

plast00

Member
hey im a newbie too and have recently asked the same question, people have recommended CFL lights as a cheap way to go. otherwise i picked up 2x 150w MH lights off ebay for like $50 so keep an eye on there too. what sort of price are you looking at for the lighting?
 

Brick Top

New Member
Since you want to grow sativas, or sativa dominant crosses, unless you hardly veg them at all and LST them and top them, tie them down, SCROG, etc., which many sativas and sativa dominant crosses do not relish, you will need some serious lighting to be able to supply the light penetration you will need.

Nothing less than a 400-watt HID light will be sufficient, and that would just barely be enough if you want decent or better lighting, and a 600-watt HID or 1000-watt HID would be better.

Save a little longer until you have another few hundred dollars or so to spend so you can have a good lighting system and ability to keep temperatures down. You won't save money by under buying some lower wattage HID lighting or going with some kiddiewinkie Rube Goldberg CFL setup with lights strung all around and at different levels and using more wattage to get less usable light, and then after a grow or two when you realize your terrible error pay for a second light system to replace your inadequate one. Considering that you can purchase a digital ballast 600-watt dimmable HID light for $219.95 (plus shipping and any extras you might want) it is pointless to go with less. Heck, stepping down to the same light in 400-watts would only save you $15.00.

While I am not a major fan of CoolTubes, if you wanted one for reasons of temperature control in either case if would only be a $35.00 upgrade fee.

Lighting is not a place where someone wants to skimp when putting together a setup to grow with. Many people say that genetics are everything or that genetics are 90% of your final result. But that's not true. Genetics are roughly half, 50%, and the other half, 50%, is growing environment. Top genetics are not a guarantee of top quality. They are a guarantee that you can achieve top quality if you provide the very best growing environment you can, and of course do not screw up during the grow.

For every step down in quality your growing environment takes your product's final quality will take a corresponding step down in quality.

If you cannot go with something like a Lumatek you can save some money and still have a good digital ballast light system where you can use both metal halide and high pressure sodium bulbs by going with the Digital Greenhouse Dimmable 600 Watt Grow Light. ($219.95 + shipping and any extras/upgrades.) The Digital Greenhouse Dimmable 400 Watt Grow Light is $204.95 (plus shipping and any extras/upgrades.) The Digital Greenhouse Dimmable 1000 watt Grow Light is $333.95 (plus shipping and any extras/upgrades.) Digital Greenhouse Digital ballasts offer a 5 YEAR WARRANTY (3 year full warranty, 2 year pro-rated)

To compare those to Lumatek products the 400-watt HID is $274.95 (plus shipping, extras/upgrades.), the 600-watt is $298.95 (plus shipping, extras/upgrades.) and the 1000-watt is $462.95 (plus shipping, extras/upgrades.). Those prices are not for dimmable ballasts and the warranty is the same, a 5 YEAR WARRANTY (3 year full warranty, 2 year pro-rated).

You can go with a generic magnetic ballast light and save roughly $100.00, but it will not be dimmable, the standard reflective hood will be no where near as good as the standard reflective hood on the others, any upgrades cost more that with the other lights and you will be using a metal halide conversion bulb rather than an actual metal halide bulb and lose efficiency. So in the long run the better money is spent by stepping up to the digital ballast model.
 
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