Liquid THC Tincture and Electronic Cig

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Anyone know if its possible to make a concentrated liquid tincture of THC and drop that liquid into the atomizer of an electronic cig refill that you can flavor on your own?

I have seen people take blank e-cig refills and hit them with liquid candy sugar to make atomic fireball e-cigs, and I was wondering if the same concept would apply and allow an odorless portable high.

this is all theoretical of course, I just figured you guys might want to try it out...
 

bobbypyn

Well-Known Member
what is the cosistency of the liquid in those cartidges? I'm sure it a no-go on straight concentrates like BHO but an alcohol based tincture may be too flammable.. i dunno about this one.
 

Justin00

Active Member
the main part of those solutions is glycerin. there are instructions to make your on cigs by buying the concentrated nicotine and pure glycerin and flavors to make your own so i assume if thc is soluble in glycerin then it would be possible.
 

longbeachOG

Member
my local dispensary sells electronic vape pens that come with THC gold for smokin. So i guess its possible some way. It runs you about 200$ to buy it from themm so making it would be alot better.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
thc does extract into glycerin, you can find a tutorial in the 'cooking with cannabis' section (i think it's one of akgrown's threads).
london drugs carries pure glycerin USP ($5.99/250ml in canada).

while i haven't actually done it, i have a friend whose glycerin extract is 'steeping' right now, if it works for him, my man and i are both getting e-gos.
 

askmehow

Member
Yup very possible. Confirmed by the owner electronic Cig franchise. Your going to need a near pure extraction of THC though thats a process, all kinds of chemicals and filters i have a book on it.
 
I have a friend that makes these for a lab. They use glycerin and C02 extracted oil. (which is liquidy enough) So mix with glycol and im sure it gets thinner. I will get the mix ratios for you tomorrow. They are buried somewhere in my paper work.
 
If you are not in a medical state. Good luck getting C02 extracted oil. Its a pain in the wiener to make! Takes some serious extractors for that..
 
Which I know am gonna start a post on making C02 extracted oil with out a lab. I have seen one guy in Australia do it so far. You also need to have welding skills. Lets see if we get some bites.
 

Alex Kelly

Active Member
Which I know am gonna start a post on making C02 extracted oil with out a lab. I have seen one guy in Australia do it so far. You also need to have welding skills. Lets see if we get some bites.
Is this the concentrate they refer to in some California Mediacal Dispenseries as Amber Glass? It kind of looks like dark amber shards of melted gooey glass. Also, a little off topic, I have recently heard people taking about making concentrates by extraction with o2, but I can't imagine how to do this. Possible?
 

hoynk8

Member
It's in most MMJ states it is Marijuana that is stripped of it's THC using natural CO2 giving you the cleanest and purest product so far that they have on the market (other than pure gold but there are debates and issues there basically they are tasteless because of how purified the product is no taste and it's all the same I like some variety) Most of these co2 extracting machines run around 40000 dollars and thats for the basic model
 

Cannabidude

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I'm not sure you guys understand how tincture works. You don't need any of that fancy crap to make a vape with glycerin. I make my own E cig juice and THC juice for my ecig and have for years now. its easy and extracting pure THC may get you a higher % but its a waste of time for someone who is looking to use regularly. Check this out, as i said this is my basic technique although you can get better THC% (by volume) by using a high grade hash or HO. Remember Glyc is an emulsifier you can dissolve both fats and water in it making very versatile. In fact many e cig manufacturer's use water or porpelyene glycol (or both) to cut the Veg Glyc to desired consistency or to combine oil/water based flavors.
Alcohol free Cannabis Tincture
By Subcool

Recently I was introduced to a way to create a convenient cannabis based medicine. It does not require smoking or even the ingestion of baked goods but just a few drops under the tongue. It contains no harmful additives and if made correctly using good bud actually taste quite pleasant.

I’d like to show you how to make this amazing cannabis preparation. It’s a vegetable Glycerin based Tincture that you can make easily with just a few inexpensive kitchen items. You simply soak high quality cannabis shake and kief in the Glycerin for 60 days.
Glycerin is easy to find and the company “Now” makes a very high quality version you should be able to find it at your local health food store. I like to take high quality shake and bud and grind them up well and place in a 2 quart glass jar. I also like to add 5-7 grams of Kief to the jar to increase the medicines potency. Remember this will be ingested so keep everything sterile and use good tasting shake not waste leaf. Once you fill the jar 90% with the ground weed and Kief slowly add the Glycerin until the weed is covered and the jar is full. Make sure to rotate the jar for about 3-5 minutes per day mixing up the jar well. I like to flip my jar upside down each day and let the weed float to the top of the Glycerin. After 60 full days used the 190 Micron Bubblebag to strain out the weed. It was extremely difficult and I think a French Press or some type of fine kitchen screen to strain the shake out of the tincture would work better.
Now here is where some knowledge of Cannabis can be very helpful. For a medication that will provide relief for nausea and stomach pain as well as tremors and shakes it seems that Sativa hybrids work best. These varieties tend to provide a more up buzz that’s best for morning and daytime medication. You can even vary the harvest time and use a Sativa that’s harvested early for a Tincture that is even more energizing and up beat. Indica strains seem to provide better pain relief and make great medication for night time especially sleeping. By making two different types of preparations, using different types of cannabis harvested to suit the individuals needs we can provide long term effective relief from many ailments. I also am very happy to use this as ammo when the anti cannabis people want to bring up smoked medicine.
Glycerin Tincture is very easy to titrate and a patient can take just a few drops under the tongue getting just the relief needed and no more. Tincture doesn’t seem to get you high or stoned and many without serious ailments don’t even feel it’s effects unless thay take a large amount like 30 ml, Everyone is different in this aspect. We have also seen incredible results with migraines. When your suffering from a serious headache all the blood is rushing to your head and not your stomach so taking a pill orally is a slow fix. With this preparation you can brush your teeth vigorously and then apply a few drops into the mouth. The medicine passes across the mucous membrane and seems to have immediate effects on our friends with this problem.
Do not confuse Vegetable Glycerin with the product used to make soap, this comes from animal fats and is not the same thing. Vegetable Glycerin is used in cough syrups and many other products and is safe for human consumption. I do recommend drinking extra water, as it tends to dehydrate you if taken in larger amounts.
MzJill found the following online


Glycerin or glycerine, it is a sugar alcohol, and is sweet-tasting and of low toxicity. Glycerol has three hydrophilic alcoholic hydroxyl groups that are responsible for its solubility in water and its hygroscopic nature. Its surface tension is 64.00 mN/m at 20 °C, and it has a temperature coefficient of -0.0598 mN/(m K). It is a central component of lipids.

In foods and beverages, glycerol serves as a humectant, solvent and sweetener, and may help preserve foods. It is also used as filler in commercially prepared low-fat foods (i.e., cookies), and as a thickening agent in liqueurs. Glycerol also serves as a way, along with water, to preserve certain types of leaves. Glycerol is also used as a sugar substitute. In this regard, it has approximately 27 calories per teaspoon and is 60% as sweet as sucrose. Although it has about the same food energy as table sugar, it does not raise blood sugar levels, nor does it feed the bacteria that form plaques and cause dental cavities. As a food additive, glycerol is also known as E number E422.

In organic synthesis, glycerol is used as a readily available prochiral building block.

Glycerol is used in medical and pharmaceutical and personal care preparations, mainly as a means of improving smoothness, providing lubrication and as a humectant. It is found in cough syrups, elixirs and expectorants, toothpaste, mouthwashes, skin care products, shaving cream, hair care products, and soaps.

As a 10% solution, glycerol prevents tannins from precipitating in ethanol extracts of plants (tinctures). It is also used as a substitute for ethanol as a solvent in preparing herbal extractions. It is less extractive and is approximately 30% less able to be absorbed by the body. Fluidextract manufacturers often extract herbs in hot water before adding glycerin to make glycerites.

Used as a laxative when introduced into the rectum in suppository or liquid (enema) form; irritates the bowel and induces a hyperosmotic effect.
Glycerol is a component of glycerol soap, which is made from denatured alcohol, glycerol, sodium castorate (from castor), sodium cocoate, sodium tallowate, sucrose, water, and perfume (fragrance). Sometimes one adds sodium laureth sulfate. This kind of soap is used by people with sensitive, easily-irritated skin because it prevents skin dryness with its moisturizing properties. It is possible to make glycerol soap at home.

It is also used in de-/anti-icing fluids, as in vitrification of blood cells for storage in liquid nitrogen


The first time I made Tincture I used two ounces of very Up weed with high THC and low CBD. The medicine was incredibly potent but it actually made you feel tweaked and was only good for daytime use. If I used it late at night for pain relief it actually woke me up and gave me cannabis energy. We wanted to create a more relaxing and calming Tincture so I used the following strains, JTR, Space Queen, Urkle, Jacks Cleaner. All these plants were fully seeded and the harvest times were past the 70 day mark. This insured we would have a more sedative form of medicine. Much of the weed used was either Purple or maroon colored. I have seen the Bubble water turn the color of grape juice when using these Purple strains and I wanted to see if the color and the taste came though into the tincture. We also added a large pile of golden kief to the top of the jar before adding the Glycerin.

I think a crank press would work much better as far as ease of production. My way using the 190 UI Bubblebag is extremely tiring and even hurt my hand after squeezing for 20 minutes about what it took to process this run. My arms were worn out from squeezing so look into a press unless your looking for a work out. I think its very important to fully decarboxylate the THC Acids. We heat the oven to 170 ( My lowest Setting) and let warm up and sit for about 45 minutes. At day fifty I washed the jar well and also placed in a bucket of hot water till it cooled. These two steps insure the Tincture is activated to it’s full potential. The plum colored Tincture is really impressive and as we hoped a much more calming effect is produced than the first batch made with early harvested sativas.
I find it this batch helps me with my RLS and if I take 15 ml with unsweetened grape juice its actually quite pleasant. We give small dropper bottles to anyone we know with a medical card and we have had some amazing feed back.


“I take the Tincture on a fairly empty stomach, and brush my teeth very well before taking it. I have one tablespoon of Tincture; I take it in small sips, holding each sip, and swishing it in my mouth for as long as I can. This allows for the most absorption of the Tincture; and provides the fastest relief of my Migrane Headache, Nausea, and pain. It warms me from the inside, and relaxes me so I can eat. If I take a tablespoon, I can do my housework and chores without ill effects. With one and a half tablespoons, I sleep all night without waking from pain; then wake up, feeling refreshed. For me, Tinctures are the best method for Migrane pain control”. Joymum

“This morning, I didn't take Tincture
I tried to keep the bong hits low, to see how my body would respond.
Yucky, I'll say. First my heads seems to be just a little slower, (its always hard for me to think), my housework seems harder to finish; I start o.k., but then my energy just goes away. I'm beginning to feel shakey and nauseas. My non-cancerous Fibroid (fatty) tumors are reminding that they are there. All of this is just after about 22 hours without full med treatment. 2 - 3 days, and I would be in my own world again, because of the pain that would return. But tonight I will be taking Tincture, and wake up feeling just fine. MzJill & Subcool told us when we received this treasure, that not everybody feels the Medicinal Effects, of Tincture. Perhaps its not the right method of delivery for them. I do not feel 'High', or 'Druggy', from Tincture. I only feel a relief from Migrane Headache pain, and a decrease in shaking. I do feel a warm, calm feeling, of over-all well being.”


We have another friend who has a grandmother in the final stages of cancer. Shes weak and in pain and can’t eat and she is basically wasting away. My friend passed some of the Tincture to her son and they put a few drops on her tongue. They reported she asked for something to eat and then went to sleep. Her son called my friend back and asked where he could buy some of the “ Miracle medicine” He informed him it was not available from mainstream doctors but he would get her some more.

I am not trying to make exaggerated claims here I am new to this and I am just as surprised as you may be by these claims but I can tell you these people’s quality of life has improved and main stream medical professionals better open there eyes to what God gave us. I am no scientist but I’m also not stupid. It’s hard to ignore these results and since were not smoking the Cannabis there number one argument against medical cannabis is silenced with this preparation. This is a great way to heal ourselves without dangerous toxic chemicals
Subcool
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet or not but this tincture is almost my exact recipe for making e cig liquid with cannabis. It works great for me and the vape is rather smooth. The big difference is that you need to cut the vegetable glycerin with water (the veg glyc is an emulsifier) to achieve the correct viscosity. Also veg glyc is thicker than poly propylene (NOT etheylene) so once the THC is added it will gum up you tank/atomizer faster than normal. I keep a separate few around just for cannabis. I have never used poly propylene for cannabis but it will work, if you cant get it to mix add a little veg glyc to it.
 
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