Looking for information on "Jack the ripper"

Hi everyone!

I'm growing a batch of Jack the ripper clones. They are the ones that have been making rounds in the south LA shops.

It looks to me like a Sativa dominant strain. I have never smoked it, so I have no idea what i'm in for. I have some other stuff going but the jack is what is going to be ready first.

I mostly smoke hash, as it seems to work best for the constant pain I deal with (aka I get so stoned I don't really notice or care about the pain. Im thinking that unless its super good, im gunna make hash out of most it. Well, that the plan, but i'm looking for some input here.

So I really would like to know any info people know about this strain. Also if I make hash from the buds and leaves, what kinda weight could I possibly be looking at? I know trimmings is something like every 100grams = 10 grams o hash. What is it when buds are used and how much stronger will this has be than the stuff I get at the clubs?

Thanks!

go to subcool's forum in organics...he's the one who came up with jtr. you can see the wrieup in"tga strain guide"....I'm running vortex, j.c.2, astro queen, spacebomb,and juggernaut from tga. one of my jc2 phenos is more ripper.

"is it sooo hard?!! all I want is fricking sharks with fricking lasers on their heads!"

from the catalog description:
"Jack the Ripper
Jacks Cleaner P1 X Space Queen

High Times Top Ten list 2006
Featured in the Big Book of Buds 3 Page 86,87,88,89
Jack the Ripper is well named because it is absolutely killer weed. A true 8 week Sativa Haze the first thing growers notice is the incredible lemon smell and heavy resin production. It has been described by UK growers as the best 8 week haze ever produced.
This plant will produce triangle shaped spear buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so.
I find it performs best unstopped with a long vegetive period. The high is very creeper at first you may think that its not so strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking.
Phenotypes - Two main phenotypes both with a Lemon Haze smell and short growth one tends to be more a pine smell.
Height-Look for the Short Pheno/ Colas swell late
Yield-Medium-Heavy / Moderate trim work
Indoor/ Outdoor
Best way to grow- Untopped and vegged to a full bush.
Harvest Window_8-9 weeks
Sativa/ Indica 70/30
Hybrid-Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X NL X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA
High type-Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia
Taste Like: Lemon mango pine hash with a heavy haze influence"

Thanks so much guys, reped ya both!

olosto said:

Thanks so much guys, reped ya both!

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i just put my JTR clones outdoors. I had them indoor for about 1 week under constant 24 hr lighting. They were about 4 inch clones when I first got them. Now they have grown to about 9 inches. They were nicely rooted. I have the beautiful so. cal sun & I can hardly wait till i harvest in october. Does anyone Know around how much I should expect to yield?

im growing jack myself outdoor. for pain i feel indicas are best as they affect the body more in my experience. but everyones physiology is different so i hope it works for you.

Check out subcool's "garden of Weeden" thread. There are some JTRs grown to tree size.

enjoy

olosto said:

Also if I make hash from the buds and leaves, what kinda weight could I possibly be looking at? I know trimmings is something like every 100grams = 10 grams o hash. What is it when buds are used and how much stronger will this has be than the stuff I get at the clubs?

Thanks!

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Hash should not be any stronger when made from or with buds than just from leaf. The level/percentage of THC per trichome will be the same, there will just be more of it. If you make hash from leaf or bud or both it is not like the 19% (or whatever) THC in the leaf will be added to the 19% THC in the bud and total 38% or even 20%, it will just be 19%.

If you are using bubble bags what you could expect is more of the higher grade/higher THC hash than if you just used leaf but it will not be higher in THC or more potent. You will just have more of the higher grade/higher potency trichomes to filter down through the bags to finally be trapped by the finest mesh.

Now if you are using other methods to make has now that I think about it you should get a higher grade hash because there will be a higher percentage of the higher grade material used so that would make it better but it would still not be more potent than the plant actually is and it would not be as potent as the higher grades from the finer mesh screens from using bubble bags. The lower grade material will somewhat dilute the higher grade and it will end up somewhere in the middle and just where that is will depend on the ratio of high grade material to low grade material.

So in that way it may be more potent that what you are used to but it will not be more potent than the plant and it will not be as potent as the higher grade hash from the finer screens of bubble bags.

To be technical has it not really more potent than the pot it is made from. As I said THC percentages do not add up to total a higher percentage of THC.

What makes hash seem more potent is you are only smoking the most potent part of the plant material so with every toke you take in much more of the psychoactive chemicals.

It is like taking 5 hits (or whatever) for every 1 hit of weed. The THC level remains the same but you are just taking in more THC per toke so it seems to be more potent.

hash has a higher % of thc than the bud it was made from its a concentrate. the cannabinoid profile is the same but a gram of hash has much a much higher thc % than a gram of the bud or trim it was made from.

some butane extracts are as high as 80% thc by volume no bud comes close to that % of thc.

+ rep for everyone again. Thanks!

My Jack the ripper clones are 6 weeks old and HUGE. I have one i call the tree and another that is the bush. The bush has so many tops i cant even count.. The tree is gotta be 3 feet tall now. Im very excited about this one, its a very very fast grower!!!

I plan on using the FDD method for harvest, wait till it looks done then wait 2 more weeks.

It sounds like what you guys are saying is that making hash outta the buds is not a bad idea if I have the flowers for it.

YAY!

olosto said:

+ rep for everyone again. Thanks!

My Jack the ripper clones are 6 weeks old and HUGE. I have one i call the tree and another that is the bush. The bush has so many tops i cant even count.. The tree is gotta be 3 feet tall now. Im very excited about this one, its a very very fast grower!!!

I plan on using the FDD method for harvest, wait till it looks done then wait 2 more weeks.

It sounds like what you guys are saying is that making hash outta the buds is not a bad idea if I have the flowers for it.

YAY!

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how big were your clones when you fiest got them six weeks ago? and how many inches a week have they been growning? are they indoor or ourdoor? sorry for the many questions, i'm just pretty stoked right aboyut now

Gosh i wanna say 3 inches? They were scrawny little guys. Ususally you don't see clones on sale till they are 2 weeks old and i would say these were a week old when I got them. A week under t-5's about 4 weeks under the 400 and a few more under the 600. Tonight I'll put both the 600 and the 400 up in my tent, cant wait to see the growth then. I vegged about 3 weeks, maybe 3 1/2. They grow tall but bush at the same time i guess. The "tree" has the main cola and about 12-16 secondary colas. Being a newbie growing but a long time smoker, i cannot imagine getting less than an oz off of this one. It looks to me like once it fills out it'll be closer to 2 or 3, but im new, what do I know.. lol i have 2 of the rippers in their own tidyfresh DWC buckets all alone. They are really starting to take up some serious space!

these things seem to love LST as the "bush" was my first experiment . After i had a good 4-5 nodes i bent the stem paraell to the lights and ties it down with twist ties held down with duct tape. Every few days i'd take another node and pull it the opposite direction of the main stem, back towards the pot. With about 4-5 weeks veg and lst i imagine that this guy would really produce alot. The LST took up veg time so while its not nearly as tall... Its still got some major buds forming. 7-8 more weeks and ill be set. Amber trics for me please!

bicycle racer said:

hash has a higher % of thc than the bud it was made from its a concentrate. the cannabinoid profile is the same but a gram of hash has much a much higher thc % than a gram of the bud or trim it was made from.

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It has a higher percentage of THC per weight or volume but not a higher potency THC. It is just more condensed so with each toke you take in more THC but not more potent THC.

You cannot take a strain that is say 20% in THC and make hash and end up with hash where the actual THC is more potent. The difference is like I said in that when smoking hash you inhale the equivalent or say 5 tokes of pot to 1 single toke of pot.

It is simply like smoking way more pot with way fewer hits.

bicycle racer said:

some butane extracts are as high as 80% thc by volume no bud comes close to that % of thc.

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Watch the two part video and then ask yourself how accurate THC percentages likely are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grFYYkAFsRo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmClZUHpLw8

ok i misunderstood what you were trying to say. like i said the cannabinoid profile is the same as the buds or trim used the thc's profile does not change it is simply concentrated.

bicycle racer said:

ok i misunderstood what you were trying to say. like i said the cannabinoid profile is the same as the buds or trim used the thc's profile does not change it is simply concentrated.

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apparently some methods of extraction do increase the percentage thc and lower the percentages of others (changing the cannabinoid profile) using heat/weight/mystery methods of extraction. That being said, changing the cannabinoid profile is the last thing I want!

the trusted traditional methods don't change the profile so far as I am aware.

i understand what he saying in those vids but i dont agree with all he said. top tier strains of today are stronger most would agree i think alot of people have a nostalgic view of older strains and assume they were better. also saying sativas are higher in thc than indicas is possible but that means little because it does not account for other active cannabinoids. he also only speaks of thc not total cannabinoid concentrations which is whats important as pure thc gives a poor quality high. i frequently make earwax using butane and it would not suprise me if it was 50+% cannabinoids. i recently read an article about a dispensary i forget the name harborside something rather. they are doing independent lab tests involving 5 methods to test for the 3 major cannabinoids thc cbd and cbn. they also test for pathogens on any bud vended to them and reject any contaminated product. anyways they were getting results from 5 to 22% for buds and up to 80% for chemical extracts. i have no problem accepting this as true. cannabis resin is much heavier than dried plant material thats why water hash is so easy to make. just by looking at some of the best strains out there i dont see why its such a stretch to believe that some cannabis is that potent. i think though a proper way would be if they said total pychoactive cannabinoid content is such and such% instead of saying thc is that% as that is incorrect. my 2 cents.

tests do show that cbd is higher in extracts than it was in the buds it came from. this could be because mostly trim is used which is more exposed to light and air as it is on the periphery of the plant and may have degraded quicker or simply the extraction process effects different cannabinoids in different ways. i prefer higher cbd strains(indicas mostly cbd is good for relaxing getting to sleep and appetite.