MA MMJ growers! "locked area" question

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endlessDaze

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I understand that in MA patients with qualified financial hardship may cultivate a 60 day supply of flower defined as 10 ounces in their residence within a "enclosed, locked area not visible to the public or caregiver's primary residence".

Specifically, "Marijuana may be cultivated and stored only in an enclosed, locked area not visible to the public at the patient’s or caregiver’s primary residence (not both). "

My op will be in an office room, with two open doorways that open to my kitchen, and my living room. I will be using thick sound insulated curtains on these two doorways. I am using a 4.5x4.5x8 grow tent.

I am planning to use luggage locks to lock up tent when not in use. The law is not specific in defining what a locked area means beyond what I have quoted. Are several luggage locks on the tent enough? Does my plan appear to be within compliance? The location is secure beyond the benefit of a doubt, my residence is always safely locked.

Ps~ I have taken many sound dampening measures such as sound insulated box for duct fan, insulated ducting, and eggshell foam. The curtains are not the only measure.

Thank you if you took the time to contemplate this!
 
justugh

justugh

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endlessDaze said:
I understand that in MA patients with qualified financial hardship may cultivate a 60 day supply of flower defined as 10 ounces in their residence within a "enclosed, locked area not visible to the public or caregiver's primary residence".

Specifically, "Marijuana may be cultivated and stored only in an enclosed, locked area not visible to the public at the patient’s or caregiver’s primary residence (not both). "

My op will be in an office room, with two open doorways that open to my kitchen, and my living room. I will be using thick sound insulated curtains on these two doorways. I am using a 4.5x4.5x8 grow tent.

I am planning to use luggage locks to lock up tent when not in use. The law is not specific in defining what a locked area means beyond what I have quoted. Are several luggage locks on the tent enough? Does my plan appear to be within compliance? The location is secure beyond the benefit of a doubt, my residence is always safely locked.

Ps~ I have taken many sound dampening measures such as sound insulated box for duct fan, insulated ducting, and eggshell foam. The curtains are not the only measure.

Thank you if you took the time to contemplate this!
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your not the DA will still go after u ........see what they are saying it can not be in the house where u live as it is off your kitchen it is in your house

to be complaint u would need to have it in a shed ....a building that is not attached to the home u live in ......the 2nd part is so ppl do not just grow in back yards they need to be hidden away so no one steals from u ......again like a shed/out build something u can lock up (for them to gain entry they would need to break in )

u have 2 choices
1 look for a co-op u can join in and grow your plants (1/2) at a off site controlled area
2 make a detached shed on your land (shed can work but will requires some work ....u need atleast 1 20 amp breaker just for this 2 would be better
 
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endlessDaze

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justugh said:
your not the DA will still go after u ........see what they are saying it can not be in the house where u live as it is off your kitchen it is in your house

to be complaint u would need to have it in a shed ....a building that is not attached to the home u live in ......the 2nd part is so ppl do not just grow in back yards they need to be hidden away so no one steals from u ......again like a shed/out build something u can lock up (for them to gain entry they would need to break in )

u have 2 choices
1 look for a co-op u can join in and grow your plants (1/2) at a off site controlled area
2 make a detached shed on your land (shed can work but will requires some work ....u need atleast 1 20 amp breaker just for this 2 would be better
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Can you cite where in MA law this is stated to warrant or even alert the DA going after me? I have never read any requirements describing the mandate of shed or separate unit for cultivation (in MA law at least) It is stated that cultivation op must be at a registered area, which can be a qualifying patient/caregivers residence or primary place of business. The key points I see regarding security of the location within the final regulations of 105 CMR 725.000 are that you may register only a single location, and that the cultivation be within an enclosed locked area as defined by the bill. I have not read anything stating the mandate of a separate unit or building to the registered location, whether it be a residence or a primary place of business.


This is the link to the final regulations on MMJ in Massachusetts. I have read it over multiple times.

http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/docs/dph/regs/105cmr725.pdf


It is stated on page 14, "A description and address of the single location that shall be used for the cultivation of marijuana, which shall be either the registered qualifying patient’s or one personal caregiver’s primary residence" must be submitted for registration of cultivation. There is no specification of a separate unit to the single registered location.

An Enclosed Locked Area is defined as, "Enclosed, Locked Area means a closet, room, greenhouse, or other indoor or outdoor area equipped with locks or other security devices, accessible only to dispensary agents, registered qualifying patients, or personal caregivers." To me, this means a locked indoor greenhouse(grow tent), is in compliance. Perhaps implementation of a silent alarm as well would be beneficial.

Again please leave me any citations or references to this separate unit requirement. Co-ops sure are interesting, but I'll be flying solo to start. It is stated that the cultivation can be registered at a primary place of business OR a qualifying patient/caregivers address.
 
justugh

justugh

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endlessDaze said:
Can you cite where in MA law this is stated to warrant or even alert the DA going after me? I have never read any requirements describing the mandate of shed or separate unit for cultivation (in MA law at least) It is stated that cultivation op must be at a registered area, which can be a qualifying patient/caregivers residence or primary place of business. The key points I see regarding security of the location within the final regulations of 105 CMR 725.000 are that you may register only a single location, and that the cultivation be within an enclosed locked area as defined by the bill. I have not read anything stating the mandate of a separate unit or building to the registered location, whether it be a residence or a primary place of business.


This is the link to the final regulations on MMJ in Massachusetts. I have read it over multiple times.

http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/docs/dph/regs/105cmr725.pdf


It is stated on page 14, "A description and address of the single location that shall be used for the cultivation of marijuana, which shall be either the registered qualifying patient’s or one personal caregiver’s primary residence" must be submitted for registration of cultivation. There is no specification of a separate unit to the single registered location.

An Enclosed Locked Area is defined as, "Enclosed, Locked Area means a closet, room, greenhouse, or other indoor or outdoor area equipped with locks or other security devices, accessible only to dispensary agents, registered qualifying patients, or personal caregivers." To me, this means a locked indoor greenhouse(grow tent), is in compliance. Perhaps implementation of a silent alarm as well would be beneficial.

Again please leave me any citations or references to this separate unit requirement. Co-ops sure are interesting, but I'll be flying solo to start. It is stated that the cultivation can be registered at a primary place of business OR a qualifying patient/caregivers address.
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do what u want person .....i just know the way the law thinks .......if u do not take the extra steps to protect yourself they say it is wrong u are wrong and going to jail

u understand 10oz that is counting the whole flowered plant ( stems fan leaves all of it ) .........i have about 2lbs of stems just sticks (cops come in those Stems are counted as weed everything above the ground) not just the flowers jarred up
 
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endlessDaze

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justugh said:
do what u want person .....i just know the way the law thinks .......if u do not take the extra steps to protect yourself they say it is wrong u are wrong and going to jail

u understand 10oz that is counting the whole flowered plant ( stems fan leaves all of it ) .........i have about 2lbs of stems just sticks (cops come in those Stems are counted as weed everything above the ground) not just the flowers jarred up
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The way the law works in what state? Also founded on what experiences and/or news articles/police reports? Would love to hear first hand experiences with these types of issues, but I notice many people are overly paranoid. I have not see many small size busts in MA. Without some sort of example of a bit in the law stating requirements for a separate unit or an example of someone being busted for this reason I can not hold any faith in your answer.

I suppose this is the internet and not a legal consultation. I'll just seek out one of those. Thanks for your input but I can't hold confidence in your answer since your fundamental reasoning is based upon your supposed ability to "know the way the law thinks", without credentials or even supporting evidence. Again thank you for your opinion thats what I asked for. I have never seen or heard anything related to what your saying (not for lack of research)
 
ButchyBoy

ButchyBoy

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endlessDaze said:
An Enclosed Locked Area is defined as, "Enclosed, Locked Area means a closet, room, greenhouse, or other indoor or outdoor area equipped with locks or other security devices, accessible only to dispensary agents, registered qualifying patients, or personal caregivers." To me, this means a locked indoor greenhouse(grow tent), is in compliance. Perhaps implementation of a silent alarm as well would be beneficial.
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The room your tent is in needs to have locking doors. Locking a tent is not secure!

We don't have those rules here. we just have to make sure it is not visible to the public such as in a green house or behind a 8 foot privacy fence for outside. I went beyond our rules and have both locking doors and security camera's since there are always teen aged people hanging out with my teen aged kid. I usually always have a pound and a half on hand so it would be easy for some to go missing without me knowing if it wasn't secured.
 
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endlessDaze

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ButchyBoy said:
The room your tent is in needs to have locking doors. Locking a tent is not secure!

We don't have those rules here. we just have to make sure it is not visible to the public such as in a green house or behind a 8 foot privacy fence for outside. I went beyond our rules and have both locking doors and security camera's since there are always teen aged people hanging out with my teen aged kid. I usually always have a pound and a half on hand so it would be easy for some to go missing without me knowing if it wasn't secured.
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Thank you for sharing. I've come to the same conclusion. I'll be installing 2 pre-hung doors and locks on both. Smart having cameras as secondary, I think I may do the same. What kind of cameras do you use?
 
ButchyBoy

ButchyBoy

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endlessDaze said:
Thank you for sharing. I've come to the same conclusion. I'll be installing 2 pre-hung doors and locks on both. Smart having cameras as secondary, I think I may do the same. What kind of cameras do you use?
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my current ones are low budget from Harbor Freight. I will be upgrading to some new ones that can be viewed from my phone in the near future.
 
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JointOperation

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justugh said:
your not the DA will still go after u ........see what they are saying it can not be in the house where u live as it is off your kitchen it is in your house

to be complaint u would need to have it in a shed ....a building that is not attached to the home u live in ......the 2nd part is so ppl do not just grow in back yards they need to be hidden away so no one steals from u ......again like a shed/out build something u can lock up (for them to gain entry they would need to break in )

u have 2 choices
1 look for a co-op u can join in and grow your plants (1/2) at a off site controlled area
2 make a detached shed on your land (shed can work but will requires some work ....u need atleast 1 20 amp breaker just for this 2 would be better
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you have no clue what the fuck your talking about.. u can grow in your house. just lock the room. no fucking problem. we have a med card IN MASSACHUSETTS.. and my LAWYER.. said that as long as its locked up. out of the view of public.. and cannot be accessed by children or other non medical patients.. you can grow in your house no problem. same with outdoors.. build a dog cage type fence in your back. put a roof/ more fence on the top.. lock it up. and your LEGAL.
 
justugh

justugh

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JointOperation said:
you have no clue what the fuck your talking about.. u can grow in your house. just lock the room. no fucking problem. we have a med card IN MASSACHUSETTS.. and my LAWYER.. said that as long as its locked up. out of the view of public.. and cannot be accessed by children or other non medical patients.. you can grow in your house no problem. same with outdoors.. build a dog cage type fence in your back. put a roof/ more fence on the top.. lock it up. and your LEGAL.
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i am in maryland with even tighter laws then u have on weed and guns

i look at the law in the worst possible way as that is what is applied to me on a daily base
we have medical weed in this state .....but no doctor can write u a script with out the state going after them for it

do what the fuck u want but i know how to protect myself using the dumb ass thinking that they try to apply to us here in this state
 
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