maine MMJ genetics talk

cerberus

cerberus

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SO as some of you have noticed, we lost the clone trading thread. apparently it was to provocative of a title. So lets start a new thread where we discuss genetic types and specific pheno types. (among legal patients and caregivers only please)

I have been informed by a mod, that we can make arrangements for trades but I suspect, out best bet is to offer descriptions of what you have and/or need and other maine mmj patients and caregivers can choose to PM you about it. that way although, I believe everyone is law abiding people, we can keep a thread without rocking the boat to much..

just a thought
 
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nl3004.kind

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outstanding job cerberus... folks we can have access to what we need, we just also do not need to get the site shut down by doing this... please do limit all interactions to card carrying medical patients only... also if you have genetics, it may be worthwhile to share if there are any quirks of these strains that you have had direct experience... i know that much of the information given by breeders is often wildly optimistic (like 40 days of flower ect), so if you have any specifics to share or can offer test results from a reliable lab our community as a whole would reap the benefits... also just so that we are clear: IF ANYONE DECIDES TO BREAK THE RULES OF THIS SITE ON THIS (OR ANY OTHER THREAD) THEIR POST WILL BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY... this is a special thing we have here, we need to treat it as such... all eyes are on you, so do try to behave accordingly... i give you my thanks in advance...
 
cerberus

cerberus

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Thanks nl. I have only one point of concern, card carrying? we have had this discussion before and a tamper proof recommendation from your M.D., specifically Maine's official form with the seal, counts as a card. But other than those semantics, I think all of us are on that same page and want to see this continue in a positive manner. We all have a good thing going, by FINALLY being allowed to do what we do, provide care and some relief to mmj patients. I don't think anyone want to risk that great gift, most americans aren't lucky (free) enough to have these freedoms.


thanks for the help in the thread NL
 
cerberus

cerberus

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mother of berry ; M.O.B
an afganica breed, clone only maine strain.
a rotten fruit smell is heavy during growing and after full cure.
flower time varies among preference but average accepted time is 49-55 days.
grows short 2 meters 2.5 max, very thick and rigid stalks, fat and very leafy. (do not clip leaves during growth, massive reduction in oil creation. i start cutting at day 41-42 ish and do a few leaves a day until harvest)

mob.jpg

Here is a patients mob at day 40. older photo of mine but not hps and gives a good representation of the genetics.
veged for 2.5 weeks
organic compost dirt
under a k

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nl3004.kind

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by card carrying i meant legal medical marijuana patients... i am happy that maine now has the either/or situation regarding the doctors rec, i think it will prove to be a great leap forward as far as patient privacy goes... other than that, lets talk clones!!! and genetics!!! and how wonderful it is that we may do so on a great site like this!!!
 
maineyankee

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Good afternoon fellow Mainers (Card Carrier here since Feb 2011) :-)

Thanks Cerberus and NL for making this thread possible :-)

I am a newbie when it comes to picking up the old roach clip from the 70's and getting back into the swing of things (not that I wanted to from a Medical standpoint, but one out of need to get by every day) I currently have a sweetie of a Caregiver in Southern Maine that I travel very month and currently get my meds from. I have found out by some trial and error, that I enjoy the Blueberry Strains a lot better than the couch lock type of AK-47, as they seem to let me do the things that I want to do (enjoying my 5 year old grandson) on a day to day basis.

I am in the process of building a grow station in a spare room (we rent, so stealth is always at the forefront). I am prolly a month to a month and a half away from pulling the trigger to get everything up and running due to finances and an appeal on a Long Term Disablility Action with the Insurance Co. I am very much interested in clones, however I would not be able to trade as I do not have anything to trade as far as clones go ... I will "Pay It Forward" with other MMJ Maine Patients when that time arrives :-) as that is how I have always been towards my fellow Brothers and Sisters out there...

Any suggestions as to what (5) ladies I should be asking out for a date would be beneficial to me, as I am a sponge when it comes to info on all things that are "Green" :-) ?? I was looking at the MOB and was interested until I read that it produced the "stinky smell of rotten fruit" aspect on the description. Just how much would the smell permeate (sp?) the apartment? If it was just the room, I would not worry too much ...

Again NL and Cerberus ... Thanks for making this thread possible. I feel that the (2) of you are a God-send to us :-)

Love and Peace

The MaineYankee
 
Maine Brookies

Maine Brookies

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I wouldn't classify my MoB's smell as rotten fruit, i'd put it more in the berry category. The C99 i have definitely has some rotten pineapple funk to it, but it's only distinguishable if i stick my nose close to the plant. Outside my tent it smells like your typical room full of flowering weed.
 
Biological Graffity

Biological Graffity

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Here is what I have for clones: (I will only post a pic of that deisel cross, the rest you guys can find at SeedFinder - The Cannabis-Strain-Search-Engine 2.0
the reason beeng I lost a charger for my digi cam back in June and really havent needed it since...
Deisel X ? hardy big leaf plant with meaty stems and chunky buds, doesnt really stink much, 65-72 days (all though I'm currently watching someone else growing it using different nutes and it might be as low as 60, hard telling not knowing) I find the high to be strong to come on and long lasting, however its impossible to sleep after smoking it...
Everything else you guys can look up since it was all ordered and germinated by me, here is a list
Purple maroc UFO seeds FEM
Amazing haze (amazing fantaseeds)
TGA's JillyBean, Chernobyl and the Flave
Tangerene dream (barneys) that one came as clone , but it is what it is....
 

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cerberus

cerberus

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Maine Brookies said:
I wouldn't classify my MoB's smell as rotten fruit, i'd put it more in the berry category. The C99 i have definitely has some rotten pineapple funk to it, but it's only distinguishable if i stick my nose close to the plant. Outside my tent it smells like your typical room full of flowering weed.
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funny. my c99's have a red pez smell but no pineapple what so ever. the mob is more rotten in growing and much more like a jar of jam after cure. funny how they differ a little, we should do a mob and c99 swap just to see the diff between the two.. lol

ohh yeah! and to answer you Q yankee, and brookie's tell me if your is different, but you would NOT want Mob if smell is an issue. she reeks! i have a carbon filter and at 40-45 days the smell is in my drive way. its more of a berry bush than your typical marijuana but I wouldn't use that as a mask. BUT per state law, a landlord can not kick you out of your residence for mmj, as long as your legal. even more so in the winter. I know landlords can be real dinks, especially when section 9 is involved.. :/
 
maineyankee

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Thanks to all of the posts so far !! Great Job!

Re: Land Lord (Spaced due to real reasons :-) ) What gets me with this landlord/ Ret. Sgt - Sherriff - Kennebec County ... When I first received my MMJ card from the State of Maine, I mentioned to him that sometime down the road, I possibly would be thinking/ doing a grow. He was all excited and I got a rave review :-) That was in late Feb '11. In August, I told him that it was becoming more of a possible thing and that I had started purchasing some equipment. The brakes came to a grinding halt, and a reverse decision was issued by him. He stated since this was a 4-unit apartment dwelling, he has issues with someone breaking into the wrong apartment if they knew I was growing. I called my lawyer, and he stated to me that I was all legal since I was approved by the State, and that the only way he could (evict me) was by raising the rent.

We live on the third floor ( water spilage concerns / have taken measures to prevent ), ( odor / working on solution), ; those are two of the main reasons for worry and concern. The really major concern for my better half is fire. The apartments electrical grid consists of 1940's wiring and elements. The only major upgrade that I can visually see is a breaker box, rather than the older buss fuses of yesteryear.

I really wished I was more experienced in all aspects ... I have never done anything like this in the past. Last time I purchased weed were in the day it was a nickel and dime and $5 amd $10 were the amounts.

I would be very interested in meeting someone over a cup of joe either here, there or a neutral place. I live in Central Maine (Belgrade Lakes area), and have a worthy vehicle :-) Just bein a Mainer I guess ... Ayuh ! :-)

Certainly ... I am Blessed to have met some really nice peeps on here, and hope and pray that we may share a cup of joe someday.

Love and Peace

The MaineYankee
 
cerberus

cerberus

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your own safety is paramount. We live in old buildings in maine and although a landlord can not kick you out (and I suspect a rent change due to the grow could be fought in court too) that doesn't mean you have the facilities needed. that being said; We live in a world of CFL's, LED's and a 400 HID aint hot and doesn't drain a lot of elec. but I'm no electrician and I stand by the statement safety is key! hell, we are growing meds, thats a poor reason to get engulfed in a house fire..
We have a pretty good network building here, I am sure when you have your recommendation (and a lapse of care from a professional is not a disqualifying factor; due to economic reasons you had to self medicate, its legit) their are a few of us here, that I'm sure would love to get a coffee and talk shop ;)
 
Maine Brookies

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cerberus said:
I am sure when you have your recommendation (and a lapse of care from a professional is not a disqualifying factor; due to economic reasons you had to self medicate, its legit)
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Are you certain about this? i got a call from Shawn Higgins office a week or so ago saying that needed to come back for a follow-up appointment to remain certified - that was the pretty much the phone message; my first thought was it sounded like a shakedown more than anything. Unfortunately, both my wife and i have been laid off since i first saw her and laying out $200 (plus paying for gas to get to Falmouth) for a follow-up is really going to be problematic on $500/week combined.
 
cerberus

cerberus

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yeah I'm sure. the problem has to be over 6 months, and you have to have tried to rehab it or manage with some sort of physicians assistance BUT if your rehab and follow ups lapsed during years of economic hardship, it doesn't relieve the problematic issue. The DR. does need to keep assessing you, Sulak requires follow ups, but only a once a year (like any other DR physical) unless your in need of more visits but obviously if you have cancer your seeing a DR more than once a year. I would call Higgins and explain the situation, your legit and its a legit concern, then your economic hardship should not limit your access to health care. Ask her for a sliding scale option too, if they don't offer that service (and most privates don't) it'll press on the DR.'s office your situation.

I have had this discussion with Sulak before; it IS a grey area but DR's deal with this issue every day, its why our ER's are slammed with people, no one can afford regular Dr. visits..

Good luck man.
 
Biological Graffity

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Maine Brookies said:
Are you certain about this? i got a call from Shawn Higgins office a week or so ago saying that needed to come back for a follow-up appointment to remain certified - that was the pretty much the phone message; my first thought was it sounded like a shakedown more than anything. Unfortunately, both my wife and i have been laid off since i first saw her and laying out $200 (plus paying for gas to get to Falmouth) for a follow-up is really going to be problematic on $500/week combined.
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It is NOT a shake down ....Its the LAW! Shawn is one of the nicest and effective healers that I had met, I belive her rate is more than fair, and you HAVE to renew your script once a year...so its either her or Dr. Sulac (whom I respect just as much and whos rates I belive same).
 
cerberus

cerberus

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it can feel like a soft line between feeling like a dr. is trying to shake a patient down for more visit fees versus them being conservative and taking a moderate pace (the way a DR should behave, conservatively); especially considering the inherently shady populations associated with the MMJ market (albeit forced by decades of federal regulations forcing us to mingle with such). despite all that wordiness, I haven't seen any doctors scam a patient, not once, and frankly I am no fan of doctors. I have experience with family, cancer, and doctors and I only really like one of those three things.. But Higgins, Sulac, I know of two others that are much more conservative and some have gotten recommendations a few haven't and all though I disagreed with the diagnosis, it was a fair.

I have never spoken to DR. Higgins but the only "complaints" I have ever heard is she's to conservative in her scripts. As an ex-EMT, and search and rescue guy, i won't knock a conservative leaning DR, when it comes to dolling out meds and MMJ is meds.. Talk to her, I bet Dr. Higgins will work with you on the fee and follow up issue, maybe you and your wife take up one appointment slot?

good luck brother, money is as big an issue to peoples health as anything else.
 
Maine Brookies

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Higgins is more expensive than Sulak on follow-ups - she's $200 while Sulak is $150. She was cheaper than Sulak at one point but has raised her rates.

My shake-down comment has as much do with the attitude (word choice and vocal tone) of the desk person who left the message as anything. I have been for one follow-up and asked at that time if i should schedule another and was told to wait until renewal. I was planning on transfering to Sulak for my renewal because he's closer than Higgins so i didn't make an appointment. To get a message that says "you are overdue for a follow-up, schedule an appointment or be revoked" is somewhat upsetting.
 
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Maine Brookies said:
Higgins is more expensive than Sulak on follow-ups - she's $200 while Sulak is $150. She was cheaper than Sulak at one point but has raised her rates.

My shake-down comment has as much do with the attitude (word choice and vocal tone) of the desk person who left the message as anything. I have been for one follow-up and asked at that time if i should schedule another and was told to wait until renewal. I was planning on transfering to Sulak for my renewal because he's closer than Higgins so i didn't make an appointment. To get a message that says "you are overdue for a follow-up, schedule an appointment or be revoked" is somewhat upsetting.
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I got the same message from Higgins' office. I have not yet made an appointment, and was also considering calling Sulak.

I have a PC doc. It's a large health provider with dozens of doctors. The company will not allow its docs to certify, although my doc is 100% behind my having a card.

Higgins tried to recruit me as a new patient, stating I should come back 3-4 times to "establish a relationship". I was not interested in that, I have had my doc for nearly 15 years and am quite happy with him/her.

I suppose it's a small price to pay for the privilege (an annual fee for recert), but honestly for those of us who have to see someone other than our regular doc for it, it kind of sux. Especially when your grounds for eligibility is less subjective and permanent (uncurable). Now that there isn't going to be a buck in it for the state (i.e. no registration requirement), maybe it will become a bit easier and less expensive.
 
Maine Brookies

Maine Brookies

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While this is good discussion about doctors, we're hijacking an otherwise useful thread about the differences in genetics found in local strains. Any chance you could break out the doc stuff into a new thread nl3004?

You're up in the County, aren't you BG?
 
Biological Graffity

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You're up in the County said:
LOL, the county? nah, what makes you say that?... have any of you guys actually been treated by Shawn? I have and I can say that she is a great homeopath ...instead of looking at this as a recertiffication visit, just go and get a treatment, I'm sure she will renew your script, and you will feel 1000 times better...(well at least it works for me).
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