Marijuana hyperemesis syndrome or laced weed?

h2alo1

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I have been diagnosed with Marijuana hyperemesis syndrome last thursday. It dawned in my head that the weed i've been getting for at least the past 3 years crackles when i get it. After a day or two it stops crackling. Is there something weed is laced with that would mimic the symptoms? My symptoms include abdominal pain when i wake up, then i'm puking all day.
 

h2alo1

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I went to the er on thursday and got diagnosed with this. It took like 20 er visits with the same problem for them to say that over the past few years. I would go to the er when i cant hold anything down due to puking. I puke 20-30 times a day if i don't take lorazepam aka adavan to control it. I really don't buy from another source much so i don't know.
 

h2alo1

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To be honest with you, I've had some degree of sickness starting every morning for the past few years. I might hit the lottery one morning and feel ok, but rarely. I smoke up to a gram every day so i can't tell. I just want to be sure i have marijuana hyperemesis because the only solution is quitting smoking.
 

OGEvilgenius

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And the only way to know is to quit smoking for a while. Your diagnosis is most likely lacking in much evidence beyond your daily routine. Only way to confirm is to stop smoking.
 

NnthStTrls

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To answer the crackling question look up "sprayed weed" or "sprayed marijuana" on google. Nasty shit.

More importantly though...............stop smoking for a week. Maybe two. Is that sooooo hard to do?
 

DonPepe

Active Member
I can see where quitting smoking could be a problem if you are depending on it for treatment, but it's really the only way to get a final answer.
 

h2alo1

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I agree, I actually quit 4 days ago. I have no relief yet. I've been exercising and drinking a shitload of water.
 
h2alo1, Do you have anxiety? I suffered from what seems to be the same symptoms. I used to throw up every day...more so in the mornings. I had trouble holding food down and eating because of it. I would force myself to eat, which was very difficult. And most of the times if I did finish my meal without throwing up in the middle of eating, I would throw up my food shortly after. I went to the doctors and they tried so many tests and couldnt find anything. I came to realize it for myself that it was anxiety/nerves. After taking anxiety medication, I was able to hold food down again and wouldnt throw up anymore.

i hope you figure out what is wrong.
 
Another thread? Why not post on the same one?

I agree though, I should be abit nicer. I am just very frustrated trying to get information from people who have been diagnosed with Cannabis Hyperemesis. Most people are like yourself, very vague in their symptoms. Again, can you elaborate on yours? I may well be able to help! I might not mind but unless you elaborate we will never know.

Do you have any symptoms similar to CVS? You say you wake up and within 20 minutes you are puking all day..........does this go on and on for days or is it just for the day as such?

A few CVS patients have had misdiagnoses with CHS and when they have abstained it made no difference. All I am thinking is your doctor may well have done this. Mind you, your vomiting might be nothing like CVS and I could be just "pi**ing in the wind" but at the end of the day, I am only trying to help :)

Sorry again if I come across as aggressive. I am fed up of looking now and really probably shouldnt be. I am only replying now because I may be able to help. If your symptoms are like CVS, get yourself over there and share your story.....if not, no harm done, nothing gained nothing lost 8)
 

h2alo1

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I have anxiety. I take zoloft for it. I hope so to. It's really weird, I smoked a bowl last night and i was not sick this morning. I'm just confused.
 

h2alo1

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It goes in cycles for me. I'll go anywhere from 3-6 days with an episode. I will always get sick in the morning. Anything i missed? I'm just confused because there's a few possibilities.
 
Hi mate,

Still abit vague with the symptoms for me to be of any help really. Anywhere from 3-6 days with an episode, what does an episode entail for you? Has an episode never started at any other time of the day apart from the morning? Are you kind of sick in the morning and just ill all day or are you sick all day or just nauseous? (I say just, it obv is alot worse than that)

The few possibilities you think you have, have you considered cyclic vomiting? Search google and the message board for CVS and you might find alot of information that sounds familiar.

I am really trying to help despite how I may come across. If your symptoms are not similar to CVS then how do they differ? If they are similar why not give their emperic treatment guidelines a read and see if you can maybe find something to help you?

Cheers
 
I have anxiety. I take zoloft for it. I hope so to. It's really weird, I smoked a bowl last night and i was not sick this morning. I'm just confused.
does the zoloft work constantly? Or does it seem to wear off? How long have you been on anxiety medication? I suspect it is anxiety. maybe you need to up your presciption, have you talked to your "pill doctor"? When I see mine, I let her know if i have been fine or if I'm having problems. Usually if I have problems she reccomends I take a higher dose(your body gets used to it after a while). I personally dont like medication, but NEED it to function normally(hold food down). I try not to up the dose, unless I absolutely need to.
 

hotrodharley

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Been in medicine as a professional for 33 years and I say this is bullshit by some bunch just wanting to get you out of their ER. You are a chronic - a GOMER (Get Out Of My Emergency Room). Go to a real doctor - not an ER doc but a real diagnostician. Some whiz bang internal medicine person. I've also been smoking since 1963 and have a stomach I wouldn't wish on anyone. Still calling this "diagnosis" as a handy one and not an accurate one.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I've been Reading about CH for the past few days on RIU and I'm kinda relieved that theres a diagnosis or at least an idea of something going on with this. You people who are saying that marijuana is is god's gift to humanity and that it can't do any wrong just need to stop. YOu're combusting dried plant material and inhaling it and holding it in your lungs AGAINST your bodies urges to purge it. It may not be as bad as cigarettes, but I don't doubt for a minute that I can cause medical problems in some people.

I've known in my heart that the stomach problems I've been having for the past few years HAD to be from all the weed I smoke. I do have unexplainable nausea in the mornings. Not every morning, but I DO get abdominal cramps every single morning. Sometimes I throw up for no reason in the mornings. I actually thought I was getting an ulcer but this makes more sense considering I don't do anything that would cause an ulcer. There's is a running joke between my friends and fmaily that I must be pregnant cause I'm always having morning sickness. This is the Abstract from a paper written on a study of 98 patients with symptoms of canabinoid induced hyperemesis.
Btw, the idea of Canabinoid Hyperemesis was started in Australia, which is considered the standard for what other countries try to model their care systems after.

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:

To promote wider recognition and further understanding of cannabinoid hyperemesis (CH).
PATIENTS AND METHODS:

We constructed a case series, the largest to date, of patients diagnosed with CH at our institution. Inclusion criteria were determined by reviewing all PubMed indexed journals with case reports and case series on CH. The institution's electronic medical record was searched from January 1, 2005, through June 15, 2010. Patients were included if there was a history of recurrent vomiting with no other explanation for symptoms and if cannabis use preceded symptom onset. Of 1571 patients identified, 98 patients (6%) met inclusion criteria.
RESULTS:

All 98 patients were younger than 50 years of age. Among the 37 patients in whom duration of cannabis use was available, most (25 [68%]) reported using cannabis for more than 2 years before symptom onset, and 71 of 75 patients (95%) in whom frequency of use was available used cannabis more than once weekly. Eighty-four patients (86%) reported abdominal pain. The effect of hot water bathing was documented in 57 patients (58%), and 52 (91%) of these patients reported relief of symptoms with hot showers or baths. Follow-up was available in only 10 patients (10%). Of those 10, 7 (70%) stopped using cannabis and 6 of these 7 (86%) noted complete resolution of their symptoms.
CONCLUSION:

Cannabinoid hyperemesis should be considered in younger patients with long-term cannabis use and recurrent nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. On the basis of our findings in this large series of patients, we propose major and supportive criteria for the diagnosis of CH.
 
I've been Reading about CH for the past few days on RIU and I'm kinda relieved that theres a diagnosis or at least an idea of something going on with this. You people who are saying that marijuana is is god's gift to humanity and that it can't do any wrong just need to stop. YOu're combusting dried plant material and inhaling it and holding it in your lungs AGAINST your bodies urges to purge it. It may not be as bad as cigarettes, but I don't doubt for a minute that I can cause medical problems in some people.

I've known in my heart that the stomach problems I've been having for the past few years HAD to be from all the weed I smoke. I do have unexplainable nausea in the mornings. Not every morning, but I DO get abdominal cramps every single morning. Sometimes I throw up for no reason in the mornings. I actually thought I was getting an ulcer but this makes more sense considering I don't do anything that would cause an ulcer. There's is a running joke between my friends and fmaily that I must be pregnant cause I'm always having morning sickness. This is the Abstract from a paper written on a study of 98 patients with symptoms of canabinoid induced hyperemesis.
Btw, the idea of Canabinoid Hyperemesis was started in Australia, which is considered the standard for what other countries try to model their care systems after.

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:

To promote wider recognition and further understanding of cannabinoid hyperemesis (CH).
PATIENTS AND METHODS:

We constructed a case series, the largest to date, of patients diagnosed with CH at our institution. Inclusion criteria were determined by reviewing all PubMed indexed journals with case reports and case series on CH. The institution's electronic medical record was searched from January 1, 2005, through June 15, 2010. Patients were included if there was a history of recurrent vomiting with no other explanation for symptoms and if cannabis use preceded symptom onset. Of 1571 patients identified, 98 patients (6%) met inclusion criteria.
RESULTS:

All 98 patients were younger than 50 years of age. Among the 37 patients in whom duration of cannabis use was available, most (25 [68%]) reported using cannabis for more than 2 years before symptom onset, and 71 of 75 patients (95%) in whom frequency of use was available used cannabis more than once weekly. Eighty-four patients (86%) reported abdominal pain. The effect of hot water bathing was documented in 57 patients (58%), and 52 (91%) of these patients reported relief of symptoms with hot showers or baths. Follow-up was available in only 10 patients (10%). Of those 10, 7 (70%) stopped using cannabis and 6 of these 7 (86%) noted complete resolution of their symptoms.
CONCLUSION:

Cannabinoid hyperemesis should be considered in younger patients with long-term cannabis use and recurrent nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. On the basis of our findings in this large series of patients, we propose major and supportive criteria for the diagnosis of CH.
That "study", be careful mate, its not really meant for the public to be making diagnosis with from what I know.

I have reviewed it in detail on the CVSA message board for anyone who is interested (cant be bothered to go through it again on here lol). It has been explained to me by a someone in the medical profession that these abstracts are not studies like we know them, but some doctors have looked through peoples medical records on file and made assumptions based upon information provided. Very little follow up was done, only 10 patients infact. I think that shows how little patients were actually studied out of 1571. The doctors publish these types of papers/theories for other medical professionals in order to try and discover new illnesses. Its not actual evidence of an illness as such........more of a theory.
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That been said I am not here to say your problems are not caused by cannabis mate or that you dont suffer from this, you know whats going on with you. The theory about Cannabis Hyperemesis may well be true and your another statistic. Have you tried abstaining? Are you just sick in the morning and then you carry on with your day? My auntie was like that. Still dont know why!

Good luck though mate, I would just say seek a second opinion for your ailments while abstaining. Cannabis could just be making an underlying problem worse :)
 
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