Medical Scrog 2.0

teddiekgb123 · Mar 22, 2011

Hello all, I'm back....

I don't know what it is with me and posting part way into my grow but I'm doing it again. I only started flowering a few days ago though, so ya haven't missed much yet. I added another room this time and I'll be growing Red Dragon and Chuck-D in that one under one light on a rail. My light rail actually broke yesterday. I hope they'll send a new one or I'm just going to move it myself twice a day. Still doing H&G nutes and I added Great White and Liquid Karma to the mix. My plants grew really fast last time, but not quite as fast as this time around. I still vegged for the same amount of time(15 days) but the plants are 20% bigger. This time I will actually fill more of the screen with one less plant than before.

I decided to go with 2/3 Vanilla Kush and 1/3 Bubba Kush in room 1.

Day 10 Veg

Day 11 Veg

Day 11 Veg (after screen)

Day 14 Veg

Bubba kush in 2nd pic and Vanilla kush in 3rd

Day 15 Veg

Day 1 Flower

Day 2 Flower

Day 3 Flower

Switching from MH to HPS, thought the color difference was cool

That brings us up to date on room 1. Here's room 2

and my mother/clone tent

I'm putting my 3 Red Dragon's and 1 Chuck-D in room 2 in the next couple days once I get the table built. I'll post pics when I get em in there. Until then....

JealousGreen · Mar 22, 2011

Excellent.. count me in.

Iolite is packed with a fresh chamber of sugar kush and I'm ready.

NorthernLights#5 · Mar 22, 2011

WOW is all i can say great setup very well done + rep and subbed

teddiekgb123 · Mar 28, 2011

Got room 2 up finally. I sometimes forget how long it takes to set up a room. Busted out a 22hr marathon and got her finished up.

1 Vanilla Kush(far left), 1 Chuck-D(top right), the other 3 are Red Dragon.
All except the VK clone are from seed. 3 weeks old I believe, grown under flouros.

Red Dragon

Chuck-D

Everything is going great with the other room. It's on day 10 of flower and the vanilla kush are flowering much quicker than they did going from seed. I'll update that room soon.

kindone · Mar 28, 2011

New room looks great man , lets see her fill up.

Ganjasism · Mar 28, 2011

Hey teddie, have you had a chance to check out this grow? https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/344359-pineapple-express-g13-labs-seed.html This dude pulls 11 oz's off of ONE plant in a very small space. Would be well worth it for all scroggers to check out. Hey, btw, great job man you're doing an awesome job!

Jozikins · Mar 29, 2011

Dude, do you know my favorite part about your grows? The funding. It's good to see someone grow and do it legit from the start.

teddiekgb123 · Mar 29, 2011

All is well in room #1. The VK's are budding faster than the cheese did last time and the bubba's are just now starting to bud.

F+5

F+6

F+7

F+11

Bubba

Vanilla

Thanks for stopping by and enjoy

JealousGreen · Mar 29, 2011

Looking very nice...

Do you like scrogging with that chicken wire?

Jozikins · Mar 30, 2011

I can almost see it now. This is going to be a choice grow.

Shrubs First · Mar 31, 2011

Great setup. Clean and efficient, not to mention I love ScROGs. A good friend of mine can really pull it off. Great thing to see.

teddiekgb123 · Apr 3, 2011

JealousGreen said:
Looking very nice...

Do you like scrogging with that chicken wire?

Well, it's the only thing I've ever used so I love it....I think. I would like to get something that's a little softer on the plants though. They get a little ruffed up by the end of the flowering stretch.

Room#1 - Vanilla & Bubba

F+12

F+13

F+14

Cleared out the undergrowth

So everything's going great again so far. I did get a few root aphids that some nematodes quickly dealt with. I'm working on some other bug prevention techniques that do not involve putting anything on the plant or in the roots, such as sticky barriers around the legs of my tables, perimeter of room, reservoir and other strategic places to stop those crawling insects that do most of the insect related damage to our plants. My goal, as last time, is to get away with never using pesticides at any point during flower at least, if ever. It worked out last time without anything other than attention to cleanliness. It was winter though, so it's not too impressive. The root aphids reminded me I'll have to step it up a little as it gets warmer.
As you can see in the pics, I definitely filled up a lot more of the screen than last time and I got some of those tall perimeter branches I wanted. I think the bubba's are done with stretch and I know the vanilla has a little more even though it has slowed down considerably. I think I'm going to stop training them now and let em be a little bigger than last time since I have the spacing to do it.

herbdoctor420 · Apr 3, 2011

i think im going to use chicken wire after looking at this

teddiekgb123 · Apr 9, 2011

Red dragon is a magnesium hungry plant I'll tell you. A few days after I put them under the MH they started showing signs of Mg deficiency and slight heat stress. My ph has been right on so it's not from that being too high or low. So I changed out the res. in case I double dosed part A or B or something and I hooked up the A/C. As of today, 2 of the 3 RD's are still being a little pissy about something, but they all do look a lot better. Freakin MagiCal............it recommends 5-10ml/gal, 10 if you have a deficiency. Thankfully I only added 4ml/gal, being that 4 even raised my TDS 200 points. That just seems ridiculous. Anyone know of an Mg supplement that isn't so hot? The Chuck-D looks beautiful, no problems whatsoever.

3 Weeks under fluorescent light/3 Days under MH
The shitty looking, short fellow on the end is a back-up Vanilla that didn't take well.

Red Dragon :arrow:

Chuck-D

Mg defiencies - Chlorosis / Inward leaf curl and twist(also aided by slightly high heat.83f)

Day 6 - Showing pitting in the leaves(RD only)

Red Dragon :arrow:

2 of them look like very similar pheno types and the third is a little different. Glad that I have two types.

Chuck-D

Day 7 - Topped once
Before :arrow:

After

Day 8

Red Dragon :arrow:

Chuck-D

Day 11 - Chuck-D far right

Day 13 - screen up...

ba..dee...ba..dee...ba..dee.........that's all folks

OoGaNomiX · Apr 9, 2011

I dont know about how much PPM it adds. but epsom salt is Mg and usually add 1g/gallon

NorthernLights#5 · Apr 9, 2011

Yet again you blow my mind... very nice

Jozikins · Apr 9, 2011

Nematodes huh? I have a friend with a root aphid problem, good tip.

thrash4ever · Apr 14, 2011

Subscribed to this thread so I don't miss the action this time around *grabs popcorn.

teddiekgb123 · Apr 17, 2011

Sry guys, I was pretty sick for a while there and was barely able to take care of my daily "chores" let alone post or take pics. The plants are doing good. A little too good for the vanilla. I don't know what's up, I'm guessing the Liquid Karma, but the vanilla kush hit another period of aggressive stretching and got wayyyyy bigger than last time. The internode spacing is really good though, so it's more like aggressively growing than "stretching". I've also noticed a huge difference in trichome production now that I'm using LK. It's increased the density and size of my trichs pretty dramatically. No wonder the stuff is so expensive. My heart keeps dropping when I look under the leaves and see these random huge trichome heads that appear to be spider mites at first.

Room#1 - Vanilla & Bubba
(pic order : Wide, Long, Bubba, Vanilla)

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F+18

F+19

F+21

Here's the gap from when I was sick. That second stretch for the vanilla also happened in this time and I had to pull a lot of the branches down and tie them to the buckets.

F+27

Height corrections

F+30

Room#2 - Red Dragon & Chuck-D

F+1

F+5

Last pic is Chuck-D

Removed one of the Red Dragons that I decided not to keep because of how much Mg it needs, plus the extra room in the screen is nice. Since these are from seed I had to veg them a little longer than I would like so that they would properly transition into flower.

F+8

-later guys-

matatan · Apr 22, 2011

subbed. love the detail!! i plan on running a scrog flood and drain in a couple months. why you chose topdrip over flood n drain teddie?

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