bangthangonme
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Will miracle gro soil work well ever or at all, and can i use my own nutes with it?
Miracle gro??
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carl.burnette
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I think you'll have a hard time finding anyone on here who is pro MIracle GRow.
I've used it enough to know I'm not using it anymore. I have gotten a couple harvest using it but the plants are almost dead near the end because of the burning on the leaves.
I suggest organics.. Thats what Im using now.
I've used it enough to know I'm not using it anymore. I have gotten a couple harvest using it but the plants are almost dead near the end because of the burning on the leaves.
I suggest organics.. Thats what Im using now.
bangthangonme
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ok but i cant much more on this at the moment, can you or anyone recommend a good soil to pick up from home depot?
Ronjohn7779
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If you can afford to get better soil and additives then by all means do so. MG will work, but the results are pretty mixed in terms of quality.
carl.burnette
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I dont know what they sell there. But when I was looking at our local big box store, I grabbed a bag of potting soil WITHOUT time release nutrients.
THat seems to be the problem with MG. You really have no control over it which is why it burns everything so easily. Find a soil with little or no nutrients then add your own.. Very slowly at 1/4 strength & not until the plants are a few weeks old. I used some kind of organic fish emulsion & its working great in the veg state. I will switch to something to build the blooms when I but them on 12/12. I use Molasses as well.
Feed it less than you think it will need. Its easier to add more than to deal with yellowed burned leaves.
THat seems to be the problem with MG. You really have no control over it which is why it burns everything so easily. Find a soil with little or no nutrients then add your own.. Very slowly at 1/4 strength & not until the plants are a few weeks old. I used some kind of organic fish emulsion & its working great in the veg state. I will switch to something to build the blooms when I but them on 12/12. I use Molasses as well.
Feed it less than you think it will need. Its easier to add more than to deal with yellowed burned leaves.
i hesitate to suggest it, because it did burn me once, plant died in the stuff
however, it got me reading up on it, and why it killed my plant
some seem to have used it by cutting it with perlite, idea is you don't get such a concentrated soil that will burn
but has mentioned, organic soil is great, much easier than chemical soils
however, it got me reading up on it, and why it killed my plant
some seem to have used it by cutting it with perlite, idea is you don't get such a concentrated soil that will burn
but has mentioned, organic soil is great, much easier than chemical soils
bangthangonme
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ok im goin 4 the cheapest potting soil at home depot
Auzzie07
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How could one take out all the nutes from MG soil? Maybe just sitting it in a bucket of water for days? I don't ever plan on using it, it's just that so many people ask about how they can effectively use it, and there has to be a way to drain all those time-release nutes from it. Any ideas? Think people, think!
cadeneli
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If you are going to put all the time, risk, care and effort into growing your own at least spend 10 extra bucks and geta bag of fox farm ocean forest. Miracle grow has time released fertilizers in the soil that makes it very hard not to burn your babies. It can be done, but you would never ever catch me using it.
Countryfarmer
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I grew my outdoor with Miracle Grow Organic Choice, peat moss, bovine manure, and mushroom compost. For nutrients I used MG tomato fertilizer in vegetative (20-20-20) along with some bovine manure tea. And for flowering I used Miracle Grow Blooming fertilizer (15-30-15) along with a one-time hit of a side dressing that was (0-45-0).
You can take a look at my results in my grow thread, linked in my sig line. Miracle Grow is perfectly fine to use, as long as you don't overdo the fertilizer.
I should note that the organic choice is the "high end" Miracle Grow product, but I did use a time released fertilizer when I transplanted. It was a time released fertilizer made and sold by my local nursery, similar to the namebrand Osmocote.
I have already smoked test nugs of my grow, so before anyone chimes in with much repeated bad information, the pot did not taste like chemicals. It did not taste as if I were sucking on the end of a car's tailpipe. It did not spark and flame up due to chemical build-up (where some of these come from I don't know, but have heard them all). It did not burn halfway through and then leave a lump of coal in my pipe. But it did taste like ass because I quick dried it.
The last branch that damn deer knocked off I have been drying/curing, and while still a bit too wet with not enough curing time in the jar, a buddy and I tried out a bowl last night. It was fine. Still smelled like hay (because it is premature and not aged properly yet). But the smoke itself was fine.
You do not have to buy canna-whatever $100 an ounce super-grow weed formulated fertilizers if you are on a budget. Anyone who tells you that you do have to is either uninformed, lying, posing, a statistic of a marketing plan, or has never grown anything other than toe fungus.
Hope I helped!
You can take a look at my results in my grow thread, linked in my sig line. Miracle Grow is perfectly fine to use, as long as you don't overdo the fertilizer.
I should note that the organic choice is the "high end" Miracle Grow product, but I did use a time released fertilizer when I transplanted. It was a time released fertilizer made and sold by my local nursery, similar to the namebrand Osmocote.
I have already smoked test nugs of my grow, so before anyone chimes in with much repeated bad information, the pot did not taste like chemicals. It did not taste as if I were sucking on the end of a car's tailpipe. It did not spark and flame up due to chemical build-up (where some of these come from I don't know, but have heard them all). It did not burn halfway through and then leave a lump of coal in my pipe. But it did taste like ass because I quick dried it.
The last branch that damn deer knocked off I have been drying/curing, and while still a bit too wet with not enough curing time in the jar, a buddy and I tried out a bowl last night. It was fine. Still smelled like hay (because it is premature and not aged properly yet). But the smoke itself was fine.
You do not have to buy canna-whatever $100 an ounce super-grow weed formulated fertilizers if you are on a budget. Anyone who tells you that you do have to is either uninformed, lying, posing, a statistic of a marketing plan, or has never grown anything other than toe fungus.
Hope I helped!
this is an important point, MG makes several different soilsI grew my outdoor with Miracle Grow Organic Choice, peat moss, bovine manure, and mushroom compost. For nutrients I used MG tomato fertilizer in vegetative (20-20-20) along with some bovine manure tea. And for flowering I used Miracle Grow Blooming fertilizer (15-30-15) along with a one-time hit of a side dressing that was (0-45-0).
You can take a look at my results in my grow thread, linked in my sig line. Miracle Grow is perfectly fine to use, as long as you don't overdo the fertilizer.
I should note that the organic choice is the "high end" Miracle Grow product, but I did use a time released fertilizer when I transplanted. It was a time released fertilizer made and sold by my local nursery, similar to the namebrand Osmocote.
I have already smoked test nugs of my grow, so before anyone chimes in with much repeated bad information, the pot did not taste like chemicals. It did not taste as if I were sucking on the end of a car's tailpipe. It did not spark and flame up due to chemical build-up (where some of these come from I don't know, but have heard them all). It did not burn halfway through and then leave a lump of coal in my pipe. But it did taste like ass because I quick dried it.
The last branch that damn deer knocked off I have been drying/curing, and while still a bit too wet with not enough curing time in the jar, a buddy and I tried out a bowl last night. It was fine. Still smelled like hay (because it is premature and not aged properly yet). But the smoke itself was fine.
You do not have to buy canna-whatever $100 an ounce super-grow weed formulated fertilizers if you are on a budget. Anyone who tells you that you do have to is either uninformed, lying, posing, a statistic of a marketing plan, or has never grown anything other than toe fungus.
Hope I helped!
there are 2 organic choice soils, there is OG garden and OG potting
i use OG Garden, which can be quite good provided you apply some tricks to it
but it does come only in the 40 lb sacks, which can be larger than some want
Auzzie07
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What's the difference?
the OG potting is a complicated mix of ingredients and seems to have some time release formulation, but organic based, i have seem some posts that say it can be slightly alkaline, which isn't great for MJ
OG garden is a mix of wood waste compost, peat moss, and poultry litter compost
it's pretty acidic, some dolomite is great to sweeten it a bit, also very dense, perlite or some other bulk is needed to give it some air space
it does usually contain fungus gnats, which is probably it's down side
but they can be controlled fairly easily, i pasteurize at low heat in a oven, cleans them out completely
this is real wild, you basically have all the additions i use to create my soil mix
i mix MG OG garden soil with 15% perlite
to every gallon of soil, i add 1 tbsp of dolomite and 1 tbsp of MG Bone Meal
MG OC Bone Meal has a 6-9-0 nute ratio, slow release nitrogen in there, very good in my opinion
i guess i would recommend adding some compost of some sort(many kinds) to your sphagnum moss, that's fairly representative of some soil mixes, probably more compost than moss