So far so good with the PM. I'm trying to be optimistic, I know it's systemic, but I did a lot of things wrong or not at all in my first grow that I think might have encouraged it...no exhaust, over water, bad temp and humidity...again I'm being optimistic, but, from what most everyone has said, I'll be poppin seeds next grow and starting a small veg closet to do my own mothers and clones. Not sure if you've ordered from Attitude before, but my friend, who's a pretty experienced grower, has had 100% success with them. He said just don't order feminized seeds, he tried twice and both times got herms. Since, he's had nothing but good stuff.