My 2nd Grow Journal. LST, SOG, SCROG, Super Crop.

Hey Everyone! Glad you decided to drop in on my 2nd grow journal. I've decided to try a few different techniques with this grow. Right now I have a plant that I am using LST on, another that I am doing super cropping with, and 6 clones that I will decide to SOG or SCROG (not sure if I need the screen or not because I'm going to keep the plants relatively small. Time will tell). And the 4th plant I will grow normally as a "control" plant to compare results to the other techniques.

As usual, I am growing White Rhino. The only addition I am going to try and add during flowering is Co2. I'm still working on that at the moment though...Need a generator, heheh.

Here's my specs:

Strain: White Rhino.
Medium: Hydroton Rocks.
Growing style: DWC!
Methods: 1 LST, 1 SOG or SCROG, 1 Super Cropping, and 1 untouched plant (Veg'd from clone, no techniques used).
Nutes: General Hydroponics Flora Micro and Flora Bloom using Lucas Formula.
Additives: Super Thrive during veg, Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate) during Flower.
pH: 5.3 to 5.6 never above 5.8 or below 5.3
ppm: 800 to 1200 general range.
DWC reservoir size: 18 gallons filled to 12 with nutrient solution.
Feeding schedule: Fresh nutes after 12 gallons of fresh water has been added.
Lights: 3 - 60W full spectrum for clones; 2 - 400W Metal Halide for veg; 4 - 400W HPS in flower room.
Light Schedule: Clones - 24hr/day; Veg - 24hr/day; Flower - 12/12
Temps: 75 degrees lights on; 60 degrees lights off.
humidity: sitting perfectly in the normal range right around 50% to 60%
Size of grow rooms: Veg/clone room - 8' x 8' x 8'; Flower room - 7' x 8' x 15' (840 cubic ft. of space).
How long Veg'd: 5 weeks.
Expected harvest: Who the hell knows? I'm going to give up any attempts at guessing this for now until I learn my crop a little better.

Ok, so below are some pictures of what I have going at the moment. The first picture is just looking in to my veg room. Pics 2, 3, and 4 show my plants veg'ing. The 2 plants on the left are already being used for LST and super cropping. The one on the left is going through LST now, and the one next to it will be the super cropped plant. The bigger one will eventually make it in to the flower room, but for now she's my clone momma.

Picture #5 shows my clones that I will be using for either SOG or SCROG. At this point, I think I will just do a small SOG grow with them. I don't plan on letting them get very tall. There are 6 clones in there. In picture #6, you can see my old cloner. It's just an igloo cooler that I use to use with a peice of glass over it. There are 3 clones in it, and they are ready to be transplanted. I'm not sure what I will do with them. I'm thinking about sticking them in one bucket and putting then straight in to flower just for the hell of it. Pics 7 and 8 are just of my new Dome Cloner. I dig it. It's working really well for me, and it's really all I need for my growing purposes..

Now The last 2 pictures are of a plant that I already have in the flower room. I am just showing it because I wanted to point out that I truly did learn my lesson from the last grow. Notice that I lollipopped the shit out of it... And I pruned out all the inside garbage as well. It really seems to like this. It's at day 25 of flowering. There is a plant to the right of it that is in day 38 of flowering. You can just make out a little bit of her bushiness in the lower right hand corner of the pictures. I haven't cleaned her up as well as I need to yet. Those branches will be gone tonight!

Ok, enough rambling by me for now. I hope that I see a lot of people here from my last grow thread, and new ones as well.

Unlike some people, I DO NOT mind if you post in this thread. Post away, every one. I encourage all feed back and I try to respond to everyone as best I can...

Off we go..

-S

PS
One last thing. PLEASE DO NOT type my user name in your posts....PLEASE. Something like, "hey snu#er, good post!" Leave my name out.. The reason is, I don't want it to possibly be googled by friends that know me by this nickname... I didn't realize that you could google names and have them point to this website when I created my account. Thank you for understanding!!!

Yea!!!!!!!!! looks like I got a front row seat, sweet. Nice beautiful green leafs bro and look at that massiff stalk, looking good already snut ol' boy

Alright I ll be able to follow this one from the begining!! Nice job on the last grow!!

Good Luck and may the ganja gods shine apon you!!

hardroc said:

Yea!!!!!!!!! looks like I got a front row seat, sweet. Nice beautiful green leafs bro and look at that massiff stalk, looking good already snut ol' boy

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hahah... I wondered who'd take pole position. Good to see you here buddy!!!

Dirtfree said:

Alright I ll be able to follow this one from the begining!! Nice job on the last grow!!

Good Luck and may the ganja gods shine apon you!!

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Thanks for stopping by, dirtfree!!! I hope to hit the 2lb mark from 4 plants this time (well 3, and a small SOG), so I'm gonna definitely be needing the ganja gods to !!!

-S

One thing I guess I should mention right away...

For this grow, as you already have read, I'm trying 4 different styles. Regular growing (a cloned plant veg'd and then flowered with no techniques used) as my control plant, SOG or SCROG, LST, and super-cropping. however, I don't have all 4 plants going in the flower room at the same time like I did with my last 4. I pretty much have these staggered 2 weeks apart. So, there will be a 2 week lag in between each harvest.

Still, I think this will be a fun grow, and we can all enjoy BS'in about growin killer pot, and what it takes to do just that!

Personally, I'm trying to figure out which method produces the most weed with a 5 week veg period... Having said that, I think SOG will win this grow. #1, I don't have to veg for 5 weeks (I'm thinking 2 or 3 weeks at the most), and #2, I'm going to have 6 plants in one of my 18 gallon totes. If each plant yields oh lets say 1.5 ounces, that's 9 oz's right there... I don't think any of the other's will match that with a 5 week veg. But this is just guessing on my part... Knowing for sure is the point of this fun grow.

My long term goal is to be pulling one reservoir out of the flower room each week. I'd like what ever is in that reservoir to produce no less than 6 oz's. So, 6 oz's a week is a pound and a half a month....I think that's a reasonable goal.... We'll see. Whatta ya all think?

-S

nice man.. I been a mad man myself.. its nice to see you right back in the dirver seat on a grow.. with a 5 week gev time I think anything will work.. just make sure you clean up all of the bottom clones of your girls

Don't mean to be a downer but googling your name this thread comes up third I'll watch you try to hit that goal though.

i thought about someone seeing my name in here but decided it just aint high on my list of worries most of my friends are doing this too

thought about changing my user name but decided against that too been using this one so long im used to it plus i have a cannabis med. card & had to stop & think maybe someone else might not be in my position & have things to loose i hope you achieve your goal & no-one ''googles'' you good luck h.h.

Someguy15 said:

Don't mean to be a downer but googling your name this thread comes up third I'll watch you try to hit that goal though.

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Yeah, I know man. I thought that If I put asterisks in front and after my name, it wouldn't google. That didn't work. That's why I changed it to "my" grow journal. the first post it was "snu#er's" grow journal. I checked google, and bam, there is was. Plus a profile link too. BUT, they will go away in time. The word snu#er gets used a lot, and the RIU shit will get buried....at least I hope... heheh.

Oh well.... Can't do shit about it now...

Thanks for coming along on this thread, bro! good to see you!

-S

Snutter, any chance you could split your 6 clones into groups of 3. One group lolipopped, and the other left alone. Quite a few people would enjoy seeing some results from that.

DaveCoulier said:

Snutter, any chance you could split your 6 clones into groups of 3. One group lolipopped, and the other left alone. Quite a few people would enjoy seeing some results from that.

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Well unfortunately those 6 clones are specifically for the SOG grow... I plan on having 5 or 6 plants in just ONE reservoir. If I did as you ask, I'd have to have more reservoirs used... And I just don't have the space for that. However, I do have 2 plants in my flower room right now, and they are both totally lollipopped... maybe we can use them as some sort of comparison...???

I'm open to any suggestions and ideas...

-S

wassup sn*&^^R..hehe

hey I like the multiple approach thing you got going! very scientific.

question:
Your teacher you've referred to as a "master" did he use the same nute sched? Just wondering if he was droppin some bud enhancers in during flowering and not telling you about it(like big bud, or gravity etc). Cuz you said he got more yield...just a thought.
ps you got any good pics of the dried rhino from the harvest? like to see the upclose of that frosty shiiiiiit/

snutter said:

Yeah, I know man. I thought that If I put asterisks in front and after my name, it wouldn't google. That didn't work. That's why I changed it to "my" grow journal. the first post it was "snu#er's" grow journal. I checked google, and bam, there is was. Plus a profile link too. BUT, they will go away in time. The word snu#er gets used a lot, and the RIU shit will get buried....at least I hope... heheh.

Oh well.... Can't do shit about it now...

Thanks for coming along on this thread, bro! good to see you!

-S

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snutter said:

Well unfortunately those 6 clones are specifically for the SOG grow... I plan on having 5 or 6 plants in just ONE reservoir. If I did as you ask, I'd have to have more reservoirs used... And I just don't have the space for that. However, I do have 2 plants in my flower room right now, and they are both totally lollipopped... maybe we can use them as some sort of comparison...???

I'm open to any suggestions and ideas...

-S

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Oh well. Maybe on your next grow, you could do it.

jflo said:

wassup sn*&^^R..hehe

hey I like the multiple approach thing you got going! very scientific.

question:
Your teacher you've referred to as a "master" did he use the same nute sched? Just wondering if he was droppin some bud enhancers in during flowering and not telling you about it(like big bud, or gravity etc). Cuz you said he got more yield...just a thought.
ps you got any good pics of the dried rhino from the harvest? like to see the upclose of that frosty shiiiiiit/

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Yes, same nute schedule. also used the super thrive like I do, and epsom salt as well.. I think he may have been pruning a little differently than I. Or maybe his plants were just bigger than I remember. I still think that one plant under a 400W HPS bulb yielding almost 8 oz's is pretty darn good though..

I'll take some pics of the dried out rhino... Almost all of it has been gotten rid of, but I did save an oz for my self. heheh..

Hey Y'all...

Here's a some pics of the plants... I just wanted to show a couple things.

Pics 1 and 2 are of the LST plant. You can see 2nd tie on her. She has 2 more weeks of Veg time, and I plan on doing some hardcore tying/training!!

Pic #3 is of the plant I am super-cropping. I don't really know if I am doing it correctly or not. Basically what I am doing is I am gently pinching all the main colas at 3 or 4 points on the stem and rolling it back and forth between my fingers until I've gently broken up the inside. This should cause the plant to put more effort in to stem development, and fatten it up. I am hoping that this stem fatness will transfer to bud fatness. At least, that is what I have read is suppose to happen. We'll see.

Picture #4 is of the "control" plant. This plant started from a clone, veg'd for 5 weeks and went straight in to the flower room last night. I haven't done anything to her what so ever.

Picture #5 is of 2 plants that I have in the flower room. I have "lollipopped" the shit out of both of them. I am very interested to see how this affects them. I have also been pruning out any and all inside bullshit leaves so that as many LUMENS as possible can hit the colas. They do seem a lot fatter at this point than my last plants when they were at the same point in flower (picture #6).

The very last picture is just a pretty flower!

Well, I just wanted to put out a quick update. Updates are cool!!

One thing I would like to point out: Check out the Beautiful Green Color of my LST, Super Crop, and Control plants. They are such a nice deep dark green. So damn healthy!!! I couldn't be happier. It seems to me that they respond very well to my nutrient and additive schedules...


-S

DaveCoulier said:

Oh well. Maybe on your next grow, you could do it.

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I will be more than happy to. I think that it is a great experiment to try. I will do it in 2 or 3 months. remind me that we talked about doing this in a couple months, if you remember... being a stoner, I tend to forget good ideas and replace them with other good ideas, if you know what I'm saying.. hahah.

-S

snutter said:

I will be more than happy to. I think that it is a great experiment to try. I will do it in 2 or 3 months. remind me that we talked about doing this in a couple months, if you remember... being a stoner, I tend to forget good ideas and replace them with other good ideas, if you know what I'm saying.. hahah.

-S

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Ill make sure to remember. Bob Smith here(I think thats his name) is doing the same thing starting sometime in February. Theres a long lollipopping thread here that had lots of debate. He's gonna do a detailed grow journal to try and help settle the debate. The more people that do it, the more reliable the end results.

jflo said:

wassup sn*&^^R..hehe

hey I like the multiple approach thing you got going! very scientific.

question:
Your teacher you've referred to as a "master" did he use the same nute sched? Just wondering if he was droppin some bud enhancers in during flowering and not telling you about it(like big bud, or gravity etc). Cuz you said he got more yield...just a thought.
ps you got any good pics of the dried rhino from the harvest? like to see the upclose of that frosty shiiiiiit/

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The more I think about it, the more I wonder if he did do some things as far as additives that I don't know about. Who knows....And to be honest, I don't care any longer. I'm on my own now, and happy to be. This is a damn funny journey, filled with many ups and downs, and lots and lots of room for improvement. And I'm enjoying the hell out of the learning curve. like most of us out there, I only want to get better and put out the best quality smoke I possibly can!!

Per your request, I attached a couple of pics. The first is a dried out ounce, and the 2nd is of a nice dry bud. Enjoy.

I have to say, I love the "whiteness" of the White Rhino. Super Cool!!!

-S

DaveCoulier said:

Ill make sure to remember. Bob Smith here(I think thats his name) is doing the same thing starting sometime in February. Theres a long lollipopping thread here that had lots of debate. He's gonna do a detailed grow journal to try and help settle the debate. The more people that do it, the more reliable the end results.

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Can you point me to the thread (the lollipop thread)? I'd be happy to throw in the results of the 2 plants that I have in my flower room right now that are lollipopped...