my attempt at budder. high res pics.

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vacpurge

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I should have taken pictures earlier, a lot of it has gotten smoked in the month that it took to make it. I used 28g and 2 cans of butane. my return was around 5 grams. I whipped it for probably 2 hours total over a period of 4 or 5 days, letting a fan sit on it overnight. then it sat for 2 more weeks while I went on xmas vacation. didnt change much though. right now its very tasty, didnt lose much taste and is very potent.

also is a picture of the bong I got from bongoutlet.com. man are they ever awesome. I got that whole set up for $145!!!!!!!! triple perc, 4 finger downstem, kick ass 2nd ash catcher thing, and a plain ash catcher. the smoke goes through water 6 times. very smooth!!!!!
 

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very nice og kush bottoms:




250 grams of nice og kush bottoms... good enough to chop and roll joints with, I have 2 of these 250g bags:




BHO that I made and purged over boiling water, and whipped for 2+ hours and let it sit for 4~ weeks:





close up... this picture looks bad ass:




what it looks like on the inside... somewhat "dry" texture. once heated it almost becomes an oil again:




triple perc bong with several attachments I got from bongoutlet.com for $150, I love it!!!!! only bad thing is that ive smoked 3 bowls through it and its so fuckin dirty already!!!!!!! any suggestions on how to stop that? youd think after going through water 6 times it wouldnt dirty the top perc so much but damn its brown already.

 
vacpurge

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underpurged?

if anything, its damn near perfectly purged. I let it sit in a boiling water bath for probably 2 or 3 hours total + spreading it out to maximize surface area.

then it was set under a fan for 12 hours at a time, stirred and played with each day, then spread out very thin for maximum surface area for 10 days or so.

then I left on xmas holidays and let it sit for another 2 weeks in a well ventilated, warm area and it was spread out very thing. I came back, played with it some more... I think after a month or so, its pretty damn near purged. maybe overdone if anything, but she sure hasnt lost any taste thats for sure, very potent too and easy to play with. at this point, it almost looks more like some full melt bubble that ive seen than it does BHO.

this was my first attempt at making "budder" ive always heard how awesome it was from my friends but ive never heard of it or seen it till I made some last month... but really, its just whipped BHO lol

I think my next investment might be a dessicator and a vacuum pump, rinse about 250g of that og kush trim that I have with like 6 or 8 or so cans of butane and give it one hell of a vac purge and hope for 45g return.

I seen your iso budder. why dont you do a large rinse instead of 3g rinses? try 100x that big and its a different story with ISO. you say your way takes 1.5 hours... imagine trying to cook off a gallon of ISO lol.
 
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and I am definitely looking into buying a ti nail and dome today.

I should mention that it got dirty from smoking bud, crystal/kief, and hash, and probably some budder and BHO also lol. ive smoked maybe 6 bowls through it and its getting very dirty. havnt even had it for 24 hours, wtf?!? haha
 
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rollNfattys420

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Wait so your names vacpurge, but you dont vacpurge? mind=blown.




But no honestly I was just curious, what did the bag of trim run ya? (if ya dont mind me asking...)
its probably cheap glass too is why it might be getting so dirty?
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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lol yeah my name was created because I came here with questions about vac purging lol.

I paid 900$ for 17 oz... so like 53$ an oz or something like that.

and yeah its cheap glass. why would that make it get dirty faster?
 
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EzExtractions

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vacpurge said:
underpurged?

if anything, its damn near perfectly purged. I let it sit in a boiling water bath for probably 2 or 3 hours total + spreading it out to maximize surface area.

Ok this right here, your not suppose to move the BHO around when it is in the water bath, your just suppose to pop the butane bubbles, spreading it around to"maximize surface" was only trapping butane in the oil considering you did no vac purging its def still in there.

then it was set under a fan for 12 hours at a time, stirred and played with each day, then spread out very thin for maximum surface area for 10 days or so.

So you stirred it some more which did virtually nothing except whip turpenes and probably lost flavor/smell

then I left on xmas holidays and let it sit for another 2 weeks in a well ventilated, warm area and it was spread out very thing. I came back, played with it some more... I think after a month or so, its pretty damn near purged. maybe overdone if anything, but she sure hasnt lost any taste thats for sure, very potent too and easy to play with. at this point, it almost looks more like some full melt bubble that ive seen than it does BHO.

this was my first attempt at making "budder" ive always heard how awesome it was from my friends but ive never heard of it or seen it till I made some last month... but really, its just whipped BHO lol

I think my next investment might be a dessicator and a vacuum pump, rinse about 250g of that og kush trim that I have with like 6 or 8 or so cans of butane and give it one hell of a vac purge and hope for 45g return.

I seen your iso budder. why dont you do a large rinse instead of 3g rinses? try 100x that big and its a different story with ISO. you say your way takes 1.5 hours... imagine trying to cook off a gallon of ISO lol.
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I wasnt trying to come off mean but i guess i did, im just being honest, ive showed this picture to people that make BHO and they all said its under purged, Ive never done bho but i can just tell from the pics that it is under purged im not trying to be a know it all, and im not saying that ISO extractions are any better. im not doubting that you can run more oil than me at a time, but it doesnt change the fact that the "budder" you posted is under purged.
 
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well I respectfully disagree with you.

like I said... it sat for a month, mostly under a fan. spread out over a large surface. while it was on the oven, I stirred it occasionally at the start, otherwise it would sit for 10-15 mins at a time un touched. then I would mix it up, and sit for another while. did that for an hour or so, then I started the budder process.

no significant amount of flavor was lost that I can tell. its still pretty tasty stuff. and definitely not under purged lol.


I am saying that maybe small runs of ISO are easy to control and cook off... but what if you were on my scale and were try to wash 100 grams of weed or more, with 2 liters or so if ISO... however much is recommended. its probably not as easy and you might not come out with such a pretty product, it would probably take all day long babysitting it and watching that much iso evaporate and a higher chance of screwing something up.
 
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missnu

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vacpurge said:
and I am definitely looking into buying a ti nail and dome today.

I should mention that it got dirty from smoking bud, crystal/kief, and hash, and probably some budder and BHO also lol. ive smoked maybe 6 bowls through it and its getting very dirty. havnt even had it for 24 hours, wtf?!? haha
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Hash is the worst thing to dirty up a bong if you ask me.
 
PJ Diaz

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vacpurge said:
well I respectfully disagree with you.

like I said... it sat for a month, mostly under a fan. spread out over a large surface. while it was on the oven, I stirred it occasionally at the start, otherwise it would sit for 10-15 mins at a time un touched. then I would mix it up, and sit for another while. did that for an hour or so, then I started the budder process.

no significant amount of flavor was lost that I can tell. its still pretty tasty stuff. and definitely not under purged lol.


I am saying that maybe small runs of ISO are easy to control and cook off... but what if you were on my scale and were try to wash 100 grams of weed or more, with 2 liters or so if ISO... however much is recommended. its probably not as easy and you might not come out with such a pretty product, it would probably take all day long babysitting it and watching that much iso evaporate and a higher chance of screwing something up.
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To be honest the first thing I thought was that it looked under purged as well. I don't really have any butane experience, buy IMO if its sludgy and glossy that means there's still solvent left. I'd strongly suggest a vac purge, even the cheap $40 version would he good IMO. A passive purge can only get rid of so much solvent, but some solvent remains trapped in the boil without an active purge.
 
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interesting. you guys could be right I guess... maybe a month isnt long enough? sure seems fuckin long when youre waiting to smoke it!!!

I am doing to buy a vac purge set up very shortly here... just gotta build up the courage to buy the $400 worth of stuff lol!
 
Indagrow

Indagrow

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Love how the people saying it is not purged have no bho experience.. If you did it that way I would say it is purged.. I vac purge but whipping over boiling water in a Pyrex dish is also a really good way.. Letting it sit is only so effective you need to reduce the viscosity of the oil to allow passage of the solvent out of it , this is done with heat.. I would say you got some prime bho man..

and I grow indicas. Indagrow.

edit. My vac was only a hundred bucks all and all, can go to -25 which is perfect IMO with heat it's really all you need I make honeycomb bho now :blsmoke:
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Da Almighty Jew said:
not quite sure how you can tell its underpurged when you havent even made oil before?
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I've made oil, just not with butane. The end result should be somewhat similar, assuming that you remove all solvents. I make butter from iso which is better quality than bho. My buddy gave me some bho which was similar to the pics the other day. I told him it didn't look purges. He agreed that it can be harsh. I took some dabs of it at home, and it is harsh. Prolly not purged like I said. If it's liquidy, it prolly still has solvents in it. Cannabinoids are not runny or liquidy.
 
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dieselhound

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I have done no less than 100 BHo runs. I couldn't tell how much it was purged by looking at a photo. Don't listen to these internet trolls who know nothing
 
Fadedawg

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PJ Diaz said:
Perhaps BHO is crappy no matter how much it's purged.
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Clearly a matter of taste, as both our BHO and QWISO get raves from test panels. Perhaps only the samples you've been exposed to were crappy.

Taste and smell is the best way that I've found to tell when wax is underpurged, when I can't tell by looking. Our sensory threshold is much lower than Threshold Limit Values or Permissible Exposure Limits, so let them do the walking..............
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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I dunno. It's true, I haven't smoked that much bho. To me it's just weird (no matter what solvent was used for the extraction) to see and smoke liquidy, runny, oil.

I mean, come on guys we all know that dried cannabinoids are NOT runny. They are hard like a rock. Sure, with budder you whip some air in, so you can have a more pliable texture to work with, but still why should it ever be runny, syrupy, or liquidy? I dunno, maybe I'm way off base and missing something here..
 
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