My Grow Cabinet Setup Help

Alright this is my setup I included pics if it worked..

The left side will be the main area for veging and flowing, hope to fit about 6-12 plants into space the right area that has the shelf which I can remove is gona be for the mother, and the clones if there is enough room.. If there isn't then I will have to make another area for cloning..

I don't have exact measurments yet, I can't find my tape measure

I was wondering about how many plant's do you think I can fit inside the main area as well as, what kinda lighting should I go for I need something cost affective at this point as I am almost out of money .. I was thinking about a T5 setup like the 2 foot 8 lamp setup or the 4 foot 8 lamp setup.. Or just going with all CFL's.. Also not sure what would be needed for the cloning area and or mother area

Please let me know what light setup you think would be best and cost effective.. I dont want too high of a electric bill, also if you could let me know about how many lumens you think I need or how many CFL's I would have to go with.. I will try and get the dimensions A.S.A.P

Also do you think is safe to order supplies, like the lighting system online with out drawing attention..

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Thx for the help

I woulnt start off on the wrong foot. you've got that nice caninet i would go HPS with and exhaust blower. Spend the 300 bux its well worth the outcome

aintgottabhwd said:

I woulnt start off on the wrong foot. you've got that nice caninet i would go HPS with and exhaust blower. Spend the 300 bux its well worth the outcome

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i second that. measure it though, but im thinking a 250 watts of HPS would be a good fit. also, one plant per square foot is the closest you want to get them.

The dimensions Main Area

3 foot 3 inches by 20 inches deep by 4 foot 6 inches tall

Side Area

19 inches by 20 inches deep by 3 foot 2 inches tall

The only problem is I am in a apartment complex so venting it would be kinda hard to do cause I can't really tie into and HVAC system

Also I dont know if it matters, but I am building a hydroponics system for it as well, didnt know if that matters..

What about the lighting for the mother/cloning area ?

Also you think it's safe to order online because, we dont really have a place around here to buy supplies ?

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all you need to vent is a fan pretty much or you could just get a 4 in. induction fan mounted to the light if you have the space and vent the heat of the lamp str8 out of the top or back of the cabinet. I would definately go with 150-250w hps depending on how well you can vent and maybe do some cfl's for supplemental side lighting. You could do 3-5 plants in their pretty easy maybe 6 or seven if you keep them smaller. with 4'6" of height just be careful not to let them veg too long and get too tall on you. Another reason for the hps will be that your plant wont need to stretch for light and you can keep it shorter in general. You are probably going to have to stick with cfl's in the mother chamber and also you may be able to keep 1-3 clones in their with the mother which would be a bit tight but if thats all you would need I think it could be done with some planning, I suggest keeping her in a taller square pot to utilize your space better. If you don't have a place to buy supplies near you than yes go with online, it is perfectly safe and usually pretty fast. Also if you have the money I would invest in some good seeds (bagseed usually doesn't give the best yields or effects) also you can find a strain that fits your spae and timing better. And don't forget about the nutes, their are plenty of good brands out their just shop around and find ones that fit your budget and the amount of effort you want to put in. It's the little extra effort put in that really will get you tremendous pay off in the end. Good luck on your grow, I hope it goes well for you.

Well thanks for all the advice but I have more questions than anything lol.. Another question is do you thing they will create a really bad smell or should i grab a carbon filter to go with the 4 inch fan??

Also do you think this would work HTGSupply 250 watt HPS Ballast, Compact 4-sided Reflector, 10’ Socket/Cord Set, HTGSupply 250w HPS Bulb, AgroMax 250 Watt MH Conversion Bulb.. or do I need to stick with just a HPS.. Also what is the advantages of having a HPS and MH at the same time??

Link to product High Tech Garden Supply

ohh yeah and one more do I need to be able to adjust the light height wise if i get one of the hps setups listed above

you will eventually need some sort of help with the smell but that won't be overwelming until flowering begins. I would just take some time to research what the best method for your space and situation would be, before i went out and spent all that money on a carbon filter for a space that size. Their are lots of plans around this site for diy carbon filters but i'm not sure how well they work. You could also consider an ozone generator, or any of the other chemical odor eaters. if you check out altgarden.com they have a section for odor control, their are many other sites as well I just know of this one because they have a location in my area.

yes you will need to adjust the light height but you can just get a length of chain and a hook on the ceiling of your cas and adjust by height it will be very simple in the case you have.

Yeah i picked this case mainly cause of the room and the bar cause I figured I would need to adjust any light source..

with that set up it's not actually mh and hps at the same time it just lets you switch between mh and hps bulbs. Some people prefer to veg with mh and flower with hps, I stick to hps the whole way through most of the valid research i have read seems to point to hps as just a better all around light source higher penetration and such. MH has more blue spectrum than hps which has more red spectrum. Just go with your gut you will probably get the same effects out of either of those 250 systems. I don't know anything about the differences in bulb brands and such so i won't bs you on any info on companies or anything.

I was just wondering on what your take is on how many CFL's you think I am gona need for the mother and the clones.. Just give me an estimated guess if you can..

I'ld probably put atleast 4 around the top and then somehow get one or two lights you can easily move around (something like the way some desk lights are set up) for the sides so you can get light to the smaller clones that you take. Thats what I would do. THey have flexible metal tubing at home depot that already has wire ran through it which you could use to build your own adjustable fixtures if you are at all intersted in doing it diy.

I've been working out the kinks of a system almost exactly like yours with a friend of mine recently, he hasn't actually built it yet still in the planning phase, just trying to get all the kinks worked out to do it right the first time. So that is why I have info on working with a perpetual space of this type. I am suprised that more people on her don't have spaces like this. It seems to be either really crappy small boxes or full rooms. It seems much easier to do it this way, because you have a bit more freedom without having to utilize a full room, and you can still maintain perpetual harvest if you plan it out right.

Yeah my first grow ever was awhile back when I was in high school only did it once and now I need alittle extra cash as well as some bud, hate paying for it.. And this setup is just perfect, looks like it has clothes in it lol.. I am gona do hydroponic bubble system, and it should go good I think I can do at least 5-6ish but hopefully I can get 8 in there I'll figure it out I would be happy with 5-6 if the yields are nice

I am just gona make a couple home made lamps out of 2x4 and wire to line the area around the clones with like 4 lights and do the same with the mother.. Or something lol I'll upload pics when i got it all figured out

Hi,

I think you realy better figure out the heat thing. You say you have no outside vent?
A 250w hps could make a nice oven.

Another thing you may want to keep in mind is Plants need co2 constantly. there is 300 ppms in the air if you live at ground level.

you may want to check ont my cabinet grow, might get some ideas

Well I cant vent to the outside, but I was thinking about purchasing a 4 in HVAC inline fan, High Tech Garden Supply there is a link to the product then I was gona run some duct out of the cabinet into a home made carbon filter.. and just let it vent into the room that the cabinets in, its a bedroom that 10x14.. So the heat should disopate throughout the room.