My Worst Nightmare Just Happened Please Help!

So maybe some of you have seen me on this forums for along time talking about setting up my room etc. Well I built my room to a t and had finaly got my 90° temps and my 25% humidity fixed. 5/5 popped. I had 3 critical Kush and one northern lights auto and one blue diesel auto. It was a 5x3x6 and my dreams were coming true after all my money spent and time. Then after about 12hrs from introducing to soil my first ck popped then the next day 3 more then the last followed. Once my last baby popped I went to my house. Since I was at a trusted buddys house doing all this. Then I wake up and get a phone call saying that his gf busted him filling the humidifer and said she was gonna call the cops and leave him if he didn't shut it down. So he pulled the plug on my babies and basically everything I've work for I've never put so much into anything in my life.

Tldr; my new grow I just started is now terminated before it really began.

Ok so this is the up to date deal. I have found a 2 bed 2 bath 2 car garage with a full basement for 450$ a month and all I gotta do is fix the house up. In march ill be able to get the place and begin working and hopefully by June or July I can start my own grow.

Goal SetUp-
4 600w super hps hortilux
4 xtrasun 6in reflectors
4 600w ballasts
1 4x4 gorilla grow tent
1 8x8 gorilla grow tent
Ebb and Flow multi system (home made with ebb and flow controller)
Co2
Btu portable ac unit

What I have now-
550 cfm phresh filter w/ phresh duct silencer
1 xtrasun ac hood
1 1000w convertible ballast
2 440 cfm fans
2 speed controllers
2 6 in clip on fans
2 16 in wallmounted oscillating fans
30 gals of supersoil
1 Super mh and 1 super hps 1000w eye hortilux bulbs
Some rope ratchets

The plan:
I know I can't afford all the shit for my goal and get a place so what the overall plan is I was going to use my existing 1000w with a 4x4 for veg and have an 8x8 so I can have enough room for all my equipment and eventually set up a mother room and a seed room so I wont have to keep buying seeds alot all of this inside the 8x8 and then veg seperate. But for me to do this I was going to try to either build or get the 8x8 and set that up as my flower room and throw down 20 think different autos my dutch passion with my supersoil/ maybe some of them on nutes. That way I can pull enough weight on 2-3 months to start getting my other shit.

What do you think?
I don't want to be a target or get huge but I would like to at least do a solid 10-20 plants.
Also my fear is that I know its a home and everything but with a 1000w veg and a 2400w flower and all the equipment running plus just daily shit that me and my room mate will use will start to pile up and look like a lot. My serious seriously question is my setup going to be too noticeable with that much power. This is my first place and first bills ever in my name and first utility so idk. Please help!

Im in a terrible position right now and could use all the supportive help necessary and I know that riu can help. Thankyou very much and I hope I can find some peace in all this rubble.

I have "friends" with 15k watt houses who pay out the ass for electric, but aren't too worried about any red flags for high usage. They live in a MJ friendly state though and don't run anything other power except for an energy friendly fridge... No plasma TV's, pools, or any other power draining electronics. Be careful regardless though. A bigger concern might be the stealthy aspect as far as smell and what not.

Depending on electrical rates where you live I think you could do it but honestly all that power in a two bedroom would raise eyebrows for me. I would aim for a 3 bedroom. Only reason is because I use space heaters that run 1500w each in my 3 bedrooms. I live in the north east and my bill was 300 a month that's for the heaters plus my 600w grow and my personal stuff.. I'm not sure if it really matters with power as long as you pay your bill but smaller homes use smaller power and bigger homes use much more

I think if you are concerned about your electric bills, you can opt for running T5's for your veg. I did not see that component in your system. That is... the vegetative component. Going T5 rather than MH will save on those bills both electric and AC which is also electric.

If you are going to do autos for your grow to save on the need for a separate veg setup then 600's are the way to go since they put more lumens per watt than any other HPS including 1000w units. 4 600's would also be correct for your 8X8 tent.

Save your money on the expensive tent and go with none or a cheaper god quality tent.

If you run 4 - 600's 24hrs a day then that is about $10/day in electric for the HPS alone. If you got to run fans and AC that can drive it up some more. Go with some efficient reflectors like cool tubes or melon heads to reduce AC costs.

Figure on this costing you about $500/mo in electric alone, adding some fans etc... I would say that is the max under the radar.

I mean its fairly decent sized and has large bedrooms and a living room and kitchen. But ya I was worried of pulling like 5k would be too much for a house. I mean idk how much tvs andother applicances but ya i mean ill pay the bill but I just don't want it like you said to raise eyebrows. Its out on the edge of town and its calling my name for all reasons I just dunno if I should shoot for my goal or downgrade. I want a complete setup eventually but all depends if its done in secrecy

AvidSmoker420 said:

I mean its fairly decent sized and has large bedrooms and a living room and kitchen. But ya I was worried of pulling like 5k would be too much for a house. I mean idk how much tvs andother applicances but ya i mean ill pay the bill but I just don't want it like you said to raise eyebrows. Its out on the edge of town and its calling my name for all reasons I just dunno if I should shoot for my goal or downgrade. I want a complete setup eventually but all depends if its done in secrecy

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5K is really nothing and even 10k is really nothing. Old homes have 100k and newer have 200k coming into them. You never want to exceed 75% on total available amperage used. Really depends on what kind of state you are in. Sounds like you want to be under the radar so... would try and keep my utility bill less than $800. If you go with a more standard situation where you are 12/12 you can use a flipbox and grow more plants. It will just take longer.

run autos

biodiesel mass from advanced seeds..........i am currnetly pulling 7 oz off one plant seed to smoke 72 to 75 days

run 3 of them plus some others so u can have a fruit punch ...............the bio is the strain my ppl love any time i have one of those plants going it is sold as soon as i have it in the jars ( i mean 2 to 6 hours after i jar it...it is gone ) they snag it all up

Mile High Shane said:

5K is really nothing and even 10k is really nothing. Old homes have 100k and newer have 200k coming into them. You never want to exceed 75% on total available amperage used. Really depends on what kind of state you are in. Sounds like you want to be under the radar so... would try and keep my utility bill less than $800. If you go with a more standard situation where you are 12/12 you can use a flipbox and grow more plants. It will just take longer.

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i looked into this about keeping the power down

if u are in a area that windpower is possible u can get yourself a 2kw or a 5kw wind system and that will supply most of the power u need plus make u a few bucks back after time ..............your looking at set up out of pocket about 5 to 7k after the rebates and all that the cost is some where around 30 to 35k to have it set and ready to go

in my area i would be back to even after 2.2 years of running it then from there i make money on having it

Mile High Shane said:

5K is really nothing and even 10k is really nothing. Old homes have 100k and newer have 200k coming into them. You never want to exceed 75% on total available amperage used. Really depends on what kind of state you are in. Sounds like you want to be under the radar so... would try and keep my utility bill less than $800. If you go with a more standard situation where you are 12/12 you can use a flipbox and grow more plants. It will just take longer.

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Ty. So your saying my game plan would work well under the radar since my 1k veg is on 18 hours then my flower 2400w will be 12/12 so basically it wouldnt full 24hrs I just don't wanna get busted becuz of power

justugh said:

run autos

biodiesel mass from advanced seeds..........i am currnetly pulling 7 oz off one plant seed to smoke 72 to 75 days

run 3 of them plus some others so u can have a fruit punch ...............the bio is the strain my ppl love any time i have one of those plants going it is sold as soon as i have it in the jars ( i mean 2 to 6 hours after i jar it...it is gone ) they snag it all up

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Whats your setup to be pulling that much?

It's obviously not the same in every region, but I have a friend that works for hydro. He has reassured me multiple times that the particular hydro company that I deal with does not rat anyone out for excessive consumption. The misconception stems from police using electric bills to obtain warrants and make busts. However, what most people don't realize is that the police approached the electric company to acquire such information. So basically, you are already under investigation before the police even know your electricity specifics.

CokeyoDrips said:

It's obviously not the same in every region, but I have a friend that works for hydro. He has reassured me multiple times that the particular hydro company that I deal with does not rat anyone out for excessive consumption. The misconception stems from police using electric bills to obtain warrants and make busts. However, what most people don't realize is that the police approached the electric company to acquire such information. So basically, you are already under investigation before the police even know your electricity specifics.

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Sometimes. Had a buddy get popped and discovery papers in court showed the meter reader got $10k for the initial tip.

So bottom line question is 2400w flower and 1000w veg with daily other appliances and equipment too much to be under the radar or will I be fine. I just wanna make damn sure before j purchase this place

a few ways to get around the grid

one is your allowed 2kw spike per bedroom, example 3 bedrooms you're allowed a 6KW spike whenever, and the electrical company won't notify anyone

another, is you can get a propane generator
this is nice cause you buy propane for it, and that makes electricity, it won't be flagged or anything

yeah it's a big investment

also wanted to mention switch timers, which instead of running the flower cycle on/off, you have 2 flower rooms and instead of a timer going on off, it just switches the power back and forth every twelve hours. This makes it so you never have the spikes, and you get twice as much grow space. Some people move the plants but i think it's much easier to build another room and cough up money for equip.

Nizza said:

a few ways to get around the grid

one is your allowed 2kw spike per bedroom, example 3 bedrooms you're allowed a 6KW spike whenever, and the electrical company won't notify anyone

another, is you can get a propane generator
this is nice cause you buy propane for it, and that makes electricity, it won't be flagged or anything

yeah it's a big investment

also wanted to mention switch timers, which instead of running the flower cycle on/off, you have 2 flower rooms and instead of a timer going on off, it just switches the power back and forth every twelve hours. This makes it so you never have the spikes, and you get twice as much grow space. Some people move the plants but i think it's much easier to build another room and cough up money for equip.

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So for a 2 bedroom having a 4k grow room plus having daily tvs and computer and shit will be flagged?

So I did the math using a energry consumption calc with my kw/h being .13$ then

Veg room- 18 hrs a day at 1000w =65$
Flower Room- 2400w 12 hours a day = 110$
So for entire grow with equipment im giving it like a 100$ leway so I'm looking at 250-300$ for the room and for a 2bed with a huge living room and kitchen etc with heat/tvs/ac I would assume between 100-200$ for that. So at most 450-500$/mo in electricity/gas all included.

Does this sound accurate? I mean if I set my 2 rooms up right I could make it so for 6 hours a day I'd have only 1000-1500w running instead of the full 3400w just in lights. So I'd have a consistent amount of power used. What you think?

Edit: or did I do the math wrong. Should I have calculated the total amount of watts for 18hours of the day then for the 6 hours with the other light off. Im so lost now on this whole power consumption I think I fucked up

In my region electric is billed in tiers, tier 1 is 13 cents per kwh... I'm tier 4 which is 41 cents per kwh with the addition of only about 1500 watts. Hopefully this isn't the case for you.

dont tap the panell everone dose it.. be carefull i rather pay for the bill.. i dont like jail.. to many men?? no women???

fir3dragon said:

Whats your setup to be pulling that much?

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soil ....5 to 7 gallon (7 gallons gets u more since holds more water)
fox farms ocean forrest
2 600w lights MH and a HPS in 4x4x6 tent (mh is lower do to used for veggie next round of plants so my flowering plants get a dose of blue light at lower lvl less yellowing from height)

as for feed biodiesel is a pig.............used fox farms line mixed with some lama poop for the micrbo

guys .........here is something most of u have not thought about

a power supply for a grow system is about the same as a computer .............for a cover if u are running a major grow why not set up a simple server farm ........this would be a reasonable reason why your power bill goes up .............u just need to increase the traffic out of your place ..............u can sell the server space to some ppl online and they will basically help u off set your bills along with provide u with cover

i use to run 4 tower computers at a time was building my own super computer for file sharing ...............i just turned them off and the power bill is the same as it always has been minus the times i cook moonshine