N deficiency 8 days into 12/12, nutes listed, how do i incorporate N?

Im beginning my second week of 12/12 and having a major N deficiency. Im pretty sure thats what it is, so no need for pics. Also im using Botanicare products. Pure Pro 3-2-4 , Pure Bloom 1-4-5 ,Cal Mag 2-0-0, Liquid Karma .1-.1-.5 and Sweet 0-0-0. Somebody pls help!!!!
oh im in FF soil by the way...
 

woodsmaneh!

Well-Known Member
No way do you have a N issue. I used the same line for 8 years, how's your PH, Humidity 60%+, are you using the cal mag? are you using max recommended?
 
No way do you have a N issue. I used the same line for 8 years, how's your PH, Humidity 60%+, are you using the cal mag? are you using max recommended?
I am using the Cal Mag, i even started giving 8-10ml rather than the suggested 5ml at the first sign of yellowing, and its my understanding that Organics dont have the salts that chems do so it cant be that, right?
 

Nullis

Moderator
Just pale yellow bottom leaves? A photo always helps.

pH would have to be either way too low (< 5.5) or way too high ( > 8.5). So perhaps you are underfeeding a bit. Calcium def. also does prevent plants from being able to utilize N.

Does Botanicare even make Cal-Mag without EDTA in it anymore?
 

woodsmaneh!

Well-Known Member
I am using the Cal Mag, i even started giving 8-10ml rather than the suggested 5ml at the first sign of yellowing, and its my understanding that Organics dont have the salts that chems do so it cant be that, right?
Right the imbalance can be caused by your water, is it well, tap?
 

wyteboi

Well-Known Member
I am using the Cal Mag, i even started giving 8-10ml rather than the suggested 5ml at the first sign of yellowing, and its my understanding that Organics dont have the salts that chems do so it cant be that, right?
yes it could be. calmag is probably not organic but thats irrelevant. you dont need calmag very often unless you use RO water. If anything add more grow cause it contains the most N. that food is not like most "organics" it is already broken down and ready to eat by the roots. so IF it is a N def then it will correct itself quick with your pureblend grow.
do you feed every watering? pics ? more info would help us out a lot.




soil :weed:
 
Just pale yellow bottom leaves? A photo always helps.

pH would have to be either way too low (< 5.5) or way too high ( > 8.5). So perhaps you are underfeeding a bit. Calcium def. also does prevent plants from being able to utilize N.

Does Botanicare even make Cal-Mag without EDTA in it anymore?
Yes the bottom leaves are pale yellow that still remain, the others have crisped and fallen. And yeah i figured it would help so I doubled on the Cal which still contains Iron EDTA. Is the EDTA a problem? Could my ph be that off in soil when I water with bottled drinking water only(6.2-6.8), no R/O or distilled....
 
yes it could be. calmag is probably not organic but thats irrelevant. you dont need calmag very often unless you use RO water. If anything add more grow cause it contains the most N. that food is not like most "organics" it is already broken down and ready to eat by the roots. so IF it is a N def then it will correct itself quick with your pureblend grow.
do you feed every watering? pics ? more info would help us out a lot.




soil :weed:
I do feed with every watering, I have been giving the Pro grow, the yellowing began right before I switched to 12/12 and has been working its way up. but yeah I havent stopped doing that, but i know that eventually in order to bud I will need more P...which means more Bloom. Ive never posted a pic, never needed to, but maybe my time has come.... when you see it you will probably say its not bad but im not used to having nothin less luscious green, lol.
 

elduece

Active Member
Im beginning my second week of 12/12 and having a major N deficiency. Im pretty sure thats what it is, so no need for pics. Also im using Botanicare products. Pure Pro 3-2-4 , Pure Bloom 1-4-5 ,Cal Mag 2-0-0, Liquid Karma .1-.1-.5 and Sweet 0-0-0. Somebody pls help!!!!
oh im in FF soil by the way...
If I was to use any line of nutes, I would have continued to use a typical grow formula until third week into flowering. Something you should consider on the next cycle.
 

wyteboi

Well-Known Member
back off the cal mag completely for at least 5 or 6 more waterins. how far along are they ? you proly dont need pics , you seem to be on it. most folks would be screamin "nute burn" ....

make sure an use full doses of the karma, its good shit.
as long as you are 100% sure your not overwatering or way over feeding then i believe the extra cal could help to slow down the uptake of the N.

if your only a couple weeks or less then keep the veg food goin and slowly incorporate the extra P.



soil :leaf:
 
back off the cal mag completely for at least 5 or 6 more waterins. how far along are they ? you proly dont need pics , you seem to be on it. most folks would be screamin "nute burn" ....

make sure an use full doses of the karma, its good shit.
as long as you are 100% sure your not overwatering or way over feeding then i believe the extra cal could help to slow down the uptake of the N.

if your only a couple weeks or less then keep the veg food goin and slowly incorporate the extra P.



soil :leaf:
tHANKS A MILLION TIMES OVER FOR ALL THE HELP YOU HAVE PROVIDED SO FAR!!!
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
If you overfeed Cal-Mag or K it locks out N...you're using double the recommended Cal-Mag...think for a second now...
 
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