nail through stalk

Doctor Cannabis

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The method is the following: Leave a nail in bleach 24h in order for it to rust. Drive it through the stem right near the bottom, few days before harvesting time.

The logic: The plant will realize that it's dieing and will secrete a protective hormone that accelerates bud production, not cannabinoid production. You'll end up with more buds, not with a higher THC concentration.

I did not try this, so I have no idea if it does work, but I have read some posts around here from a guy who says that it does have a big impact in the buds...
 

hemlockstones

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just skip the whole nail step and just inject bleach into your plant... this has to work.. right?!
subjecting the plant to 48 hours darkness before harvest is the same thing... sort of?
the plant realizes the lights are off schedule and freakout/stress.. putting all the remaining energy into the buds hopping to seed before they die... if werent to cut them down they would probably hermi as a last effort, but thats why you only do 48 hours and then chop :-)
 

Doctor Cannabis

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I don't know if it's a myth or not, but it's still brutal... as said above, you get the same effect from 24-48h darkness before harvesting or from supercropping...

I mean... if someone told you that driving a nail throu your child would make him smarter...would you do it?
 

born2killspam

Well-Known Member
I didn't soak the nail in bleach, but I remember there was rust on it.. I remember picking it up in the driveway, and having it in my pocket, just as a place to put it..
If anything it kind of deformed bud growth more than increase it.. The test plant was among matching clones, but was runting out a tiny bit so I figured I had little to lose.. Put the nail (4" ardoc) through about an inch from the base..
Stalk inside the bud was way beefier.. (These plants grew buds with almost no sticks normally).. I seriously doubt there was any actual benefit bud-wise though.. I wouldn't do it again unless I was really really bored, and had an insolent plant that kept disrespecting me..
 

smokinshogun

Active Member
This method will cause "Desiccation" of the plant by interrupting the flow of fluids through the stem....Essentially allowing you to "water stress" the plant without all the hassle of underwatering. So if you were growing outdoors and couldnt control the waterings, this would do the same thing...Anytime you increase potency, you WILL decrease the total yield.

As far as putting the nail in bleach, there is no evidence that this will help anymore than a regular nail.
 

vapedg13

New Member
So if you were growing outdoors and couldnt control the waterings, this would do the same thing...Anytime you increase potency, you WILL decrease the total yield.

As far as putting the nail in bleach, there is no evidence that this will help anymore than a regular nail.

potency has to do with the strain and genitics.....not as nail in the stock or water stress...If people could just water stress plants and get better weed everyone would have killer weed but it doesnt work like that

Water and Cannabis
Water, the fluid of life, makes up more than 80 percent of the weight of the living plant. Within the cells, life processes take place in a water solution. Water also dissolves nutrients in the soil, and this solution is absorbed by the roots. About 99 percent of the water absorbed passes from the roots into the conduits (xylem) of the stem, where it is distributed to the leaves via the xylem of the leaf veins. Transpiration is the evaporation of water from the leaves. The flow of water from the soil, through the plant to the air, is called the transpiration stream. Les then one percent of the water absorbed is broken down to provide electrons (usually in the form of hydrogen) which, along with carbon dioxide, are used to form carbohydrates during photosynthesis. The rest of the water is transpired to the air.

Watering

Water provides hydrogen for plant growth, and also carries nutrients throughout the plant in the transpiration stream. However, it is not true that the more water given a plant, the faster it will grow. Certainly, if a plant is consistently under-watered, its growth rate slows. However, lack of water does not limit photosynthesis until the soil in the pot is dry and the plant is wilting.

The amount of water, and how often to water, varies with the size of the plants and pots, soil composition, and the temperature, humidity, and circulation of the air, to name a few variables. But watering is pretty much a matter of common sense.

During germination, keep the soil surface moist. But once the seedling are established, let the top layer of soil dry out before watering again. This will eliminate any chance of stem rot. Water around the stems rather than on them. Seedlings are likely to fall over if watered roughly; use a hand sprinkler.

In general, when the soil about two inches deep feels dry, water so that the soil is evenly moist but not so much that water runs out the drainage holes and carries away the soil's nutrients. After a few trials, you will know approximately how much water the pots can hold. Marijuana cannot tolerate a soggy or saturated soil. Plants grown in constantly wet soil are slower-growing, usually less potent, and prone to attack from stem rot.

Over-watering as a common problem; it develops from consistently watering too often. When the plants are small, they transpire much less water. Seedlings in large pots need to be watered much less often than when the plants are large or are in small pots. A large pot that was saturated during germination may hold enough water for the first three weeks of growth. On the other hand, a six-foot plant in a six-inch pot may have to be watered every day. Always water enough to moisten all the soil. Don't just wet the surface layer.

Under-watering is less of a problem, since it is easily recognised. When the soil becomes too dry, the plant wilts. Plant cells are kept rigid by the pressure of their cell contents, which are mostly water. With the water gone, they collapse. First the bottom leaves droop, and the condition quickly works its way up the plant until the top lops over. If this happens, water immediately. Recovery is so fast, you can follow the movement of water up the stem as it fills and brings turgor to the leaves. A plant may survive a wilted condition of several days, but at the very least some leaves will drop.

Don't keep the pots constantly wet, and don't wait until the plant wilts. Let the soil go through a wet and dry cycle, which will aerate the soil and aid nutrient uptake. Most growers find that they need to water about once or twice a week.

When some soils get particularly dry, the water is not absorbed and runs down the sides and out the bottom of the pot. This may be a problem the first time you water the soil, or if you allow the soil to get very dry. To remedy, add a couple of drops of liquid detergent to a gallon of water. Detergent acts as a wetting agent and the water is absorbed more readily. First water each pot with about one cup of the solution. Allow the pots to stand for 15 minutes, then finish watering with the usual amount of pure water.

Use tepid water; it soaks into the soil more easily and will not shock the roots. Try to water during the plant's morning hours. Water from the top of the pot. If you do want to water from the bottom with trays (not recommended), place a layer of pebbles or gravel in the trays to insure drainage. Don't leaves the pots sitting in water until the pot is heavily saturated. The water displaces the soil's oxygen, and the plants grow poorly.

Tap water in some areas highly chlorinated, which does not seem to harm Cannabis; and many fine crops are raised with water straight from the tap. But chlorine could possibly affect the plants indirectly, by killing some beneficial micro-organisms in the soil. Chlorine also makes the water slightly acidic. However, neither effect is likely to be serious. Some growers have asked whether they should use pet-shop preparations that are sold to remove chlorine from water in fish tanks. These preparations generally add sodium, which removes the chlorine by forming sodium chloride (table salt). This solution does not harm the plants, although repeated use may make the soil too saline. Probably the best procedure is to simply allow the water to sit in an open container for a few days. The chlorine is introduced to water as the gas Cl2, which dissipates to the air. The water temperature also reaches a comfortable level for the plants.

Hard (alkaline) water contains a number of minerals (e.g., Ca++, Mg++, K+) which are essentially nutrients to the plants. Water softeners remove these minerals by replacing them with sodium, which forms slightly salty water. It is much better to water with hard water, because artificially softened water may prove harmful after some time. Occasionally, water may be acidic (sulphurous). Counteract this by mixing one teaspoon of hydrated lime per quart water and watering with the solution once a month.

Water and Potency

******We've seen studies that have evaluated potency in relation to water. A few studies have mentioned the fact that plants that received less water were slightly more potent but no scientific evidence was provided . Water stress has been practiced by several marijuana-growing cultures. In parts of India, watering is kept to a minimum during flowering.********

To limit watering, water with the usual amounts but as infrequently as possible. To encourage good growth, yet keep watering to a minimum, wait until the plants are a few months old before you curtail watering. Give the plants their normal water and note the number of days before they begin to wilt. As the plants get larger, the water needs increase, but this generally stabilises by the time of flowering
 
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