Necrotic spots on lower fans, fuck.(pics)

So I've already left a post about this in my thread but I thought it might get more looks here. I put both of my plants into flower nearing 3 weeks ago. I started to notice some yellowing and necrotic spots on the lower fans a couple weeks ago. I wasn't too worried as I was expecting some yellowing to occur at some point during flower, and wasn't sure when. Today it officially became bad enough for me to ask for advice. I am feeding with schultz all purpose plant food, a drop of superthrive, and 1 teaspoon of epsom salts per gallon of h2o at every water. I started supplementing with epsom salts when I noticed the spotting and yellowing as it seemed to fit Mg defficiency. I added a picture of the whole plant so you guys could see how big of a tragedy this could turn into, it is a beautiful fucking plant. I don't know what to think please help!!!

That does resemble the Mg deficiency, but your schedule sounds really hot to me. I had to work with the Epsom salts and was worried about build-up in the soil, so I switched to "the blue stuff" (an orchid food) for several feedings. Look at the Schultz, if it already has Mg in it you should not need to dose. Does it get any plain water, or is it being fed at every feeding? Do you know the pH of your soil?

I agree. It looks like Manganese deficiency. You could have a PH problem also.

I just don't see how it could be Mg if I'm feeding with it at every water, and its getting worse for that matter. Is 1 teaspoon per gallon too much? maybe lockout? I guess the next step is to try fresh water for the next couple waters and resume regular feeding?

Oh and Ph should be good, I only water with spring water, I have a 5 gallon dispenser kind of like a culligan thing that is paid for courtesy of parents. If only they knew what I use it for...

Yeah, I'm thinking PH nute lockout. Maybe a flush or two is in order.

What do you mean by PH nute lockout. I get the nute lockout part, but you still think my PH is an issue?

Stop using superthrive, your in flowering now. I would transplant. Check ph, should be aroiund 6.5-6.8. Feed with water over the next couple of days.Whats your soil also?

TheDankness said:

Oh and Ph should be good, I only water with spring water, I have a 5 gallon dispenser kind of like a culligan thing that is paid for courtesy of parents. If only they knew what I use it for...

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Yes, but you're not giving the plant the plain water, you're adding stuff to it. And if you're adding stuff to it every feeding, eventually that can build up. pH lockout means that the pH is at a level at which the plant is physiologically incapable of utilizing the nutrients. They are, in a real sense, locked out.

GrowSpecialist said:

Yeah, I'm thinking PH nute lockout. Maybe a flush or two is in order.

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Flush or two at LEAST, I'm thinking that plus nothing but plain water for two weeks. No more Superthrive and no more Schultz.

Superthrive only to be used during veg? I had no idea I'll have to look into that. I'm afraid to even mention the soil out of embarrassment... but its MG potting soil. I know, I know... stupid rookie mistake. But I already went through the nute burn when the plant was a seedling. Its been doing great in this soil since I flushed those nute balls into oblivion.

Seamaiden said:

Flush or two at LEAST, I'm thinking that plus nothing but plain water for two weeks. No more Superthrive and no more Schultz.

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I concur. +reps

Thankee, GS. Concurrence!

TheDankness said:

Superthrive only to be used during veg? I had no idea I'll have to look into that. I'm afraid to even mention the soil out of embarrassment... but its MG potting soil. I know, I know... stupid rookie mistake. But I already went through the nute burn when the plant was a seedling. Its been doing great in this soil since I flushed those nute balls into oblivion.

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Yeah, the plant doesn't look all that bad to me. You're just compounding the problem you're trying to fix, possibly. If the pH is neutral, that should be good. But for me, when in doubt flush it out. That being said, I'm growing organically and use ferts that have mycorrhizae and other soil microbes.

Miracle Gro soil gives me splinters. So does Sta-Green.

Well everybody thanks for the help, I think now I have an idea of the best course of action. +rep for everyone! can I even do that? doesn't matter, receiving this much input in so short a time is why this site is great, thanks all, PEACE!

Seamaiden said:

Thankee, GS. Concurrence!

Yeah, the plant doesn't look all that bad to me. You're just compounding the problem you're trying to fix, possibly. If the pH is neutral, that should be good. But for me, when in doubt flush it out. That being said, I'm growing organically and use ferts that have mycorrhizae and other soil microbes.

Miracle Gro soil gives me splinters. So does Sta-Green.

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Thanks again for the advice, I would be growing organically too if I could afford it. If you check out my thread I've spent a total of about 50-75 dollars on this grow. I think my results are pretty impressive taking that into consideration.

Seamaiden said:

Thankee, GS. Concurrence!

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Says I have to spread em around first.

No worries, as long as I helped. Besides, the more important reputation earned is the one in people's heads.

TheDankness said:

Thanks again for the advice, I would be growing organically too if I could afford it. If you check out my thread I've spent a total of about 50-75 dollars on this grow. I think my results are pretty impressive taking that into consideration.

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I hear you on the funds, no worries there. I think I mentioned that when I got desperate I, too, broke out the blue stuff.