Need help, Cloning issue

This is my second attempt cloning. Four types, white widow, blue widow, sour nyd, blue hash

After 48 hours clones are droopy, and wilting.

Process used, 45 degree angle clones cut, cut X at bottom of steam under water, dip in juicy root cloning gel. place in lightly watered Rockwell cub also with rooting gel. Placed in clone dome misted twice a day vents open.

24 hours pics

close the vents!!!!!
they need high humidity.

your problem is with the humity dome, keep them sealed air tight for a week and then gradually let fresh air in...

After 48 hours the clones look to be all drooping. Humity and temp are kept around 75-80 for both. On examination of one of the clones, the stem covered in the gell and in the rockwell is black and turning mushy in only 48 hours.

all the clones are dropping because the leaves aren't getting nutrients/water from the stem. because its gone, and the leaves cant support that so they are loosing strength. if you keep them sealed from fresh air with a humidity dome, they dont dry up and lose their moisture so fast. misting the leaves also keeps them hydrated. they have to get water from somewhere. when the leave aren't healthy, this really slows root production down. If what im seeing in that last pic is the root popping out about 2-3 inches, than this is not bad at all for 48 hrs, shit.

two other pics, any help would help, im going to close vents get it more humid in there

I dont think its roots, the stems were cut in an X which leaves that star pattern. the gel has shrunk the stem and made it loose and very flexable is this normal.

By that i mean the entire black part at the moment was a stem, but now its flexable and shrunk and the color of the juicy root gel

That's why I stopped using gel and went back to powder. Seemed stems were blocked from any moisture uptake(has same kind of stem rot you have there). Not even misting and closed dome helped. Went back to rooting powder and have had excellent results since.

Im defenitly going to try powder next time.

smokedup12 said:

By that i mean the entire black part at the moment was a stem, but now its flexable and shrunk and the color of the juicy root gel

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They appear to be sitting in a puddle of root gel, correct?

I would think that is the problem...or a good portion of it.
Clones get their water up-take from the leaves until they form roots, so you must mist, and initially keep the vents closed until they start to form roots.
Clones should be dipped in gel, but I don't think they should be swimming in it. That gel looks rather thick, in which case it is keeping air from getting to the future root sites. Sopping wet rockwool would do this to as - again - not allowing any oxygen to the area. Hence the stem is rotting.

yes the hole is filled of gel and on the steam, damnit. on all of them.

Turns out was the gel Juicy root after all, I did an experiment and did one clone with powder and one with small about of gel in the rockwell. and as usual the gel clone was falling over but the powdered clone has been standing strait up with no drooping . Pic is the WW done in powder, Now in hopes of saving my clones I recut all brown stems off and re did them in powder. Not sure if it will work but wasn’t working with the gel and would have died anyways. Otherwise im waiting two weeks cause i don’t have anymore clones on my mothers.