Need help with transplant decision

tfishing

tfishing

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Hi, this is my first grow and this is my question. I am currently at about day 7 from the popping of the seed. I have them in some fertilome for seedlings soil with a small amount of ocean forest mixed in , works pretty great. They are in 16oz cups under a 600w MH. I will probably need to transplant soon but from what i'm hearing ocean forest will most likely burn them atleast initially (strong stuff). I will probably need to transplant them before week 3 (when they are choosing sex) i would rather not stress them by putting them directly in the ocean forest in that period (maybe its ok).
So i need to figure out what to transplant them into aka smaller than 3 gallon (final transplant) yet bigger than 16oz that will still allow plenty of room for the ocean forest. I was thinking maybe something as simple as 32oz quick trip cups. and also what medium, could i do like 50% perlite with 50% ocean forest? Or some combination of that with some more of the fertilome? Hm well in anycase any tips would be helpful, i will be starting a journal soon but here are some pics from about 5 minutes a go.


Much Love

T
 

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vfwvn

vfwvn

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First grow eh... cool man. The pic's are looking healthy and off to a great start. I use the same size cup to start and they look as if they totally enjoy the current environment. Careful on the light's, I've found shop flo's work well about an inch away for up to three weeks or so. Here's a pic of my cups right before and after transplant at 3 weeks from dry seed. Get em real healthy in the cups and go right to the three gallons.. I use the FF with the Ready Grow soilless airation formula and never looked back.. Good luck..
 

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sj420

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yeah, 20 gal is a big pot. that would handle a small tree, lol. most indoor grows will be good w/ 3-5 gallon
 
doitinthewoods

doitinthewoods

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ocean forest won't burn them from seed. I have mine in ocean forest, and I put them in right after germing them. They're fine. Put them in to whatever you plan on finishing them in. 3 gal. pots are always good. You can grow a huge indoor plant in a 3 gal. pot.

I don't know where you heard that, but maybe they had a bad experience or something.
 
Daddy Green Genes

Daddy Green Genes

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T, first of all, congratulations on your success thus far. Transplanting is a critical step that cannot be overlooked, it is perhaps the most traumatic event a young plant will experience. However, as long as you are careful and keep things moist you should be fine. You should transplant the seedlings when they are close to outgrowing their cups. They will start to require more water and grow upward, when the plant is almost as tall as its container and has developed a good set of leaves it should be ready. Turn the cup upside down, and gently squeeze or shake out the rootball, and if some of the young roots are visible then it is probably ready for transplant.
As far as your container, I think you should use 2 or 3 gallon pots, depending on what fits your space. Consider your grow room space and try to visualize how the plants will fill out (they do get bigger). Decide how many you will keep and consider some type of canopy management in order to control and maximize your space. If you are only keeping 2, consider 3 gallon pots for more size and yield. The plants will grow as big as their most limiting factor, if their roots are bound so are the buds.
In regards to the ocean forest soil, I have read that it is full of nutrients and could burn young plants but I think that is more of an issue with young clones. If you are concerned that the soil might burn the plants then mix 50% fertilome in with the ocean forest around the area where the transplant's roots will be touching. This way, they will be slowly introduced to the new rich soil. Concerning perlite, this is a great amendment and will add air to your mix. 50% might be a bit extreme (is there already perlite in the ocean forest?), but I think a healthy addition of 20 or 30% Perlite would be beneficial for root growth. Plants are less sensitive to nutrient overdoses in soil, which has more buffer protection than a hydroponic medium. It is best to gradually introduce the plant, and let the ocean forest work its magic. Make sure the soil is well saturated and there are no air pockets after you transplant. Also, it is generally best to transplant in the evening (towards the end of the light cycle) so the plants will have a full night's rest to recover. And one last word of advice: don't transplant when you are drunk, as this impairs your depth perception and can make you do dumb things. Haha, CCC!
 
tfishing

tfishing

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Daddy Green Genes said:
T, first of all, congratulations on your success thus far. Transplanting is a critical step that cannot be overlooked, it is perhaps the most traumatic event a young plant will experience. However, as long as you are careful and keep things moist you should be fine. You should transplant the seedlings when they are close to outgrowing their cups. They will start to require more water and grow upward, when the plant is almost as tall as its container and has developed a good set of leaves it should be ready. Turn the cup upside down, and gently squeeze or shake out the rootball, and if some of the young roots are visible then it is probably ready for transplant.
As far as your container, I think you should use 2 or 3 gallon pots, depending on what fits your space. Consider your grow room space and try to visualize how the plants will fill out (they do get bigger). Decide how many you will keep and consider some type of canopy management in order to control and maximize your space. If you are only keeping 2, consider 3 gallon pots for more size and yield. The plants will grow as big as their most limiting factor, if their roots are bound so are the buds.
In regards to the ocean forest soil, I have read that it is full of nutrients and could burn young plants but I think that is more of an issue with young clones. If you are concerned that the soil might burn the plants then mix 50% fertilome in with the ocean forest around the area where the transplant's roots will be touching. This way, they will be slowly introduced to the new rich soil. Concerning perlite, this is a great amendment and will add air to your mix. 50% might be a bit extreme (is there already perlite in the ocean forest?), but I think a healthy addition of 20 or 30% Perlite would be beneficial for root growth. Plants are less sensitive to nutrient overdoses in soil, which has more buffer protection than a hydroponic medium. It is best to gradually introduce the plant, and let the ocean forest work its magic. Make sure the soil is well saturated and there are no air pockets after you transplant. Also, it is generally best to transplant in the evening (towards the end of the light cycle) so the plants will have a full night's rest to recover. And one last word of advice: don't transplant when you are drunk, as this impairs your depth perception and can make you do dumb things. Haha, CCC!
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Dear Daddy Green Genes,

Haha! You are quite knowledgeable on the green arts and seem to be keenly aware of my plans, i applaud this intuition. I think i will probably go with the 20 to 30 percent perlite and the rest ocean forest and that should keep me good for nutes pretty much through veg. Unfortunately i need to find some sort of medium before i go to the 3gallon containers, space being the deciding factor. I am quite attached to all my girls, Lucy, the sweet tooth in the middle is quite dominating. hmm i really need to cut out the stair case i may do that soon. I am looking into a scrog grow but it will definitely be a biatch with those stairs. Additionally i dunno if watering will become an issue (since space is). They are just about ready for transplant and i do hope i can find enough sober time to do so haha. again, much thanks rep CCC!
 
tfishing

tfishing

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i gots to get my journal going, ill post some more pictures tomorrow for your viewing pleasure. Any more advice is very much welcome
 
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