NEED NUTRIENTS HELP!!!

Ok here is a list of the nutrients i have kicking around already from a friend. I plan to use all of the advanced nutrients, i will obviously stick to what it says to do on the bottles. My question is about some of the random stuff i have at the bottom and when or if i should be using it in conjunction. I am also curious about cal/mag people keep mentioning all over the site. The Bud Candy has 0.5% magnesium in it so that might answer half my question i guess with fufilling that element for my plants. I just like to keep my shit simple but ive got all this stuff available to me so i may as well take advantage of it. Trying to understand it a little better, a good first step im sure would be understanding the essential 16 elements if someone might be able to pass some guidance along with that lol. I will be using distilled water as much as possible because that is what i prefer so far through my experiences. Either that or my brita filter and the tap which i havent tried yet but saves me trips to the store all the time lugging a big jug around. I am growing in soil/soiless mix using "promix HP" which has been another choice of mine over the years. Thanx guys! cheers!

Nutrients I have kicking around:
ADVANCED NUTRIENTS:
-Sensi Bloom (A) 2-4-0
-Sensi Bloom (B) 2-4-8
-Sensi Grow A&B ?-?-? (not with me at the moment)
-Mother Earth Grow 4-1-4
-Mother Earth Bloom 3-2.3-5
-Big Bud 0-1-3
-Bud Candy 0.5% magnesium
-Voodoo Juice

PLANTLIFE PRODUCTS - HOLLAND SECRET (futureharvest.com):
-Grow 2-1-7
-Micro 5-0-2
-Bloom 0-6-4

RANDOM *** WHEN DO I USE THESE??***:
-Grotek Pro-Silicate 0-0-3
-Grozyme
-Superthrive
-Liquid Karma 0.1-0.1-0.5

Sounds like you're using things for the sake of using things as opposed to giving your plants what they actually want.

tip top toker said:

Sounds like you're using things for the sake of using things as opposed to giving your plants what they actually want.

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I used to just stick to a simple 2 part grow and 2 part bloom and followed the schedule and everything was dandy. I was going to try out the fox farm trio of gro, bloom, and tiger bloom but my friend gave me all this stuff so just looking for some insight. You've discouraged me now haha mayb i'll just experiment on a couple of them and leave the rest to do my usual thing. I dont want to overdue anything and have setbacks.

GibbsIt89 said:

I used to just stick to a simple 2 part grow and 2 part bloom and followed the schedule and everything was dandy. I was going to try out the fox farm trio of gro, bloom, and tiger bloom but my friend gave me all this stuff so just looking for some insight. You've discouraged me now haha mayb i'll just experiment on a couple of them and leave the rest to do my usual thing. I dont want to overdue anything and have setbacks.

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By all means experiment, but ill not support all of this rubbish. Growing weed has been turned into this magical process, as if its somehow not a plant like any other. The vast majority of stuff for sale is bullshit marketed to growers on this artificially inflated worth of the product. When the going rate is hundreds an ounce, it becomes a hell of a lot easier to convince people that ABC is only pennies compared to the return, why wouldnt you use it.

I tried multiple fancy foods and additives, in the end i learnt that they did sweet F all compared to cheap and cheerful nutrients that gave them everything they needed to start with. I see all these fancy nutrients and additives like i see various diets. Pay a premium for this "magic" diet, and then pay again for all the supplements required due to the diets deficiencies.

tip top toker said:

By all means experiment, but ill not support all of this rubbish. Growing weed has been turned into this magical process, as if its somehow not a plant like any other. The vast majority of stuff for sale is bullshit marketed to growers on this artificially inflated worth of the product. When the going rate is hundreds an ounce, it becomes a hell of a lot easier to convince people that ABC is only pennies compared to the return, why wouldnt you use it.

I tried multiple fancy foods and additives, in the end i learnt that they did sweet F all compared to cheap and cheerful nutrients that gave them everything they needed to start with. I see all these fancy nutrients and additives like i see various diets. Pay a premium for this "magic" diet, and then pay again for all the supplements required due to the diets deficiencies.

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hahaha CHEERS to that buddy ya i agree. WHY in the fuck should i have to throw so much stuff at it... exactly, i dont lol. The best smoke ive actually grown/smoked was with my buddy.. we grew at his dads place so he was in charge of the maintenance and i would just come by and check them out once in a while to suggest a few things, this was his first grow. At the end of the grow and harvest and everything i asked him after smoking some and being impressed with it if he stuck to what i told him with the nutrients etc. (was a 2 part formula for the bloom) he said he only ever used A the entire grow and only fed it every other watering. watered once a week. He didnt even mean to, he didnt know it was a 2 part.

I try to stay away from too much nutrients, mainly from being broke by buying led lights. I do have good results with iguana grow and bloom as base nutrients. Followed by big bud and overdrive to finish up.

I use both of the 2part sensi bloom and grow, big bud, and bud candy from advance nutrients. Didnt like the voodoo juice for the price so i started using orca for roots. An use armorsi, calimagic, koolbloom dry from GH.. right now im trying MOAB as a rippener to see if i like it over the koolbloom.

keep the liquid karma
sell the voodoo juice
give everything else away

just kidding, but just try to stick to an npk ratio of 3-1-2 in veg and 1-1-2 in flower
you should be good

stringer420 said:

I use both of the 2part sensi bloom and grow, big bud, and bud candy from advance nutrients. Didnt like the voodoo juice for the price so i started using orca for roots. An use armorsi, calimagic, koolbloom dry from GH.. right now im trying MOAB as a rippener to see if i like it over the koolbloom.

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dam dude what strain? I will def. check that out, thanks for the tips! What brand is MOAB, whats that stand for?

PS you might want to get rid of any pics with your tattoos in them, if you have ever been arrested they will be on file.

butsack said:

keep the liquid karma
sell the voodoo juice
give everything else away

just kidding, but just try to stick to an npk ratio of 3-1-2 in veg and 1-1-2 in flower
you should be good

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Awesome thanks for the ratio man! and lmao ya there are some AN haters out there, this is my first time with it.

What I have done so far is:

2nd week of clones (VEG)

Full Dosage
-Sensi Grow A 3-0-0
-Sensi Grow B 1-2-6
-Mother Earth Grow 4-1-4
-Voodoo Juice
-Grozyme
-Pro-silicate 0-0-3
-Liquid Karma 0.1-0.1-0.5

Over board I know but I knew they could handle it, and they did. As to whether I'm wasting nutrients or doubling up on something or whatever I don't know, hence the thread lol.

3rd week of clones, **First week of (FLOWER) (October 20th)

Full Dosage
-Mother Earth Bloom 3-2.3-5 @ 1/3rd of the dosage (this is the "mix" dosage, full strength would be the "by itself" dosage)
-Voodoo Juice
-Grotek Pro-Silicate 0-0-3
-Grozyme

I was also suppose to add in the Bud Candy but forgot. I wasnt really sure what to do for the first week of flower because what I am used to is water one week feed the next week and so on. So the first week of flower was technically my "water" week so I went easy but still added in some Mother Earth Bloom. After talks in other threads I will be feeding once a week now without waterings in between. They are in 3L pots (small I know, but I wanted to test it, small space so) and when I water I give them 1L now. And they have seemed to dry up in about 6 days so I might actually do water/feed in one week once they start to soak up a little more and dry out quicker. Today (being that its 4:30am) I am suppose to feed them. I eventually also might start upping the dosage to see how far I can push them. I know I know less is more.. But Ive already been on the WAY less end of that saying so Id like to jump into things.

Today I will be:

4th week of clones, 2nd week of flower (October 27th)

Full Dosage
-Sensi Bloom (A) 2-4-0
-Sensi Bloom (B) 2-4-8
-Mother Earth Bloom 3-2.3-5 @ 1/3rd of the dosage
-Big Bud 0-1-3
-Bud Candy 0.5% magnesium
-Voodoo Juice
-Grotek Pro-Silicate 0-0-3
-Grozyme
-Liquid Karma 0.1-0.1-0.5

COMMENTS!!?? haha

So because I have all of this nutrients I listed in my first post I want to experiment. Not even so much to do with the brands although that would keep things simple, but more so of the different balances/ratios of the nutrients.

I have 8 clones, 7 are kush and 1 is cheese. I would like to keep a regular schedule/mix for a majority of them which would be the nutrients ive listed just above here. Say maybe 4 I will experiment with and 4 I will keep all the same mix.

You guys wanna help me figure out what to do? haha

Thanks guys!!!

MOAB, MOTHER OF ALL BLOOMS.

Ps i have my card so im legal not worried about tatttoos aslong as my face iant shonwn.. ones a golden nugget and the other is hashberry kush.

MOAB is monopotassium phosphate at a high markup.

I wouldn't be surprised if they took a bag of haifa monopotassium phosphate and just poured it into a MOAB container.

ive used the advanced nutrients and the plant life nutes before, of the 2 i actually got better yields with the plant life... havnt used all those aditives though...

Great to know man thank you! I will def. throw them in the mix then

TheChemist77 said:

ive used the advanced nutrients and the plant life nutes before, of the 2 i actually got better yields with the plant life... havnt used all those aditives though...

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Awesome man thanks! I will throw them into the mix. One plant I will do straight plant life. Another I will use plant life as well but with all the AN additives.

I did the whole Advanced Nutes in Hydro for awhile, then soil. I felt for the amount of money spent on nutes didnt justify the yields i was getting.. I now use alskian fert and mollases in veg , and mor bloom and mollases for flower. . I seem to get bigger ,sticky , crystally buds with mollases. The only advances product i use is blood bud in flower.

Ive herd of the mollases and have considered giving it a try, suggestions on dosages? Ive only herd of it being used in flower. I have read higher yields being a def. factor with it.

And I think everyone agrees on price vs. yield with the AN line.. some people get quite upset about it haha. Luckily all of this was free to me, regardless I doubt I would be purchasing a full line from them ever. Maybe some additives but even then.

Potismedicine said:

I did the whole Advanced Nutes in Hydro for awhile, then soil. I felt for the amount of money spent on nutes didnt justify the yields i was getting.. I now use alskian fert and mollases in veg , and mor bloom and mollases for flower. . I seem to get bigger ,sticky , crystally buds with mollases. The only advances product i use is blood bud in flower.

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www.dutchnutrientformula.com

I purchased their full line for $100.00 and I was happy with the results and that was my first 3 grows.

Will probably revisit that brand and ease into what I like with it. The "green" additive (forget what its called) for veg. is awesome, used to put a little in with the water I would fill my clone tray with and Id have a nice cluster of roots 2 weeks no matter what, 100% success rate. (humidity dome/tray/square divider insert, two 2ft T5s with 6400k bulbs, a heating pad, and id use "rapid rooters" instead of rockwool... I think theyve discontinued the rapid rooters, sad face)

I take i Teaspoon full and disolve in warm water. Then add that to 1 gallon of water along with your veg ,or flower nutes.. .Can also be used as a spray for mites, etc. 1 teaspoon per gallon of water. .Spray the underside well . Kills them little fuckers , and benifits the plant as well.