Need some help with plant

thecapinnice

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1 ) Growing indoor, Being grown in 4x4
2) Watering everyday once a day, using half feeds of AN 3 Part Micro Grow Bloom w/CalMag, but have moved onto a little more than half during week 4 of veg, Currently under 800W power draw - 4 QB288's with 256 pc's lm301h and 32 pieces CREE 660nm ea with a 315W CMH in between. Added the LED's into veg about week 2, slowly went from 25 % - 50 % - 75 % power draw now at 90%. Currently theyre sitting at about .8-.1 EC feeds of abt a 2:1:1 NPK 5.8Ph, not accounting for whats amended into the soil. although run off measures at about 1 to 1.4 EC 6.2Ph give or take.

3) Growing Medium - This ones a problem, I began with 30/70 coco perlite but when transplanting the healthy plants I was supplementing with Synth nutes, I was convinced to move them into their new containers that had coco/perlite/amendments and try that in 2gal fab pots. Not sure it helped more than it did cause problems, but I added about 10% Worm castings, 2.5% each bat guano, shrimp meal, azomite meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal to the mix, mixed with microbe compost tea, it caused problems early it seemed so I decided to start supplementing with AN again as well as watering until run off every feed. I recently flushed the medium with 5.7ph'd RO water w/ calmag abt Day 25 of veg, maybe a week after transplanting. Theyre back to being fed as above.

5) What stage of growth - Just finished week 4 of veg today, starting week 5 of veg. Planning to top to 3rd node but not sure if its a good choice given the state

6) Concerns - I'm colorblind, and I have a really hard time telling greens yellows etc unless it is objectively yellow, no hues. I really just wanted to take input from anyone knowledgeable about any deficiencies they may see because I'm convinced she's hurting. I just don't know how, growing quite strong but the colors feel really off to me, way too bright. This goes for my other 3 but this one shows it the most as the others have been defoliated for mainlining. There were some heat and humidity complications towards the beginning of the grow but everythings dialed in between 70-77F and at consistent 45-50 RH for the past 2 weeks. Not sure if showing deficiencies or excess, or neither. too blind man

7) Question - If they make it to some growth, provided i didnt kill em, when transplanting into 5 gal, should I skip amendments and move them into 70/30 once again?

Let me know, thanks, I tried to provide as much info as I could
 

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1 ) Growing indoor, Being grown in 4x4
2) Watering everyday once a day, using half feeds of AN 3 Part Micro Grow Bloom w/CalMag, but have moved onto a little more than half during week 4 of veg, Currently under 800W power draw - 4 QB288's with 256 pc's lm301h and 32 pieces CREE 660nm ea with a 315W CMH in between. Added the LED's into veg about week 2, slowly went from 25 % - 50 % - 75 % power draw now at 90%. Currently theyre sitting at about .8-.1 EC feeds of abt a 2:1:1 NPK 5.8Ph, not accounting for whats amended into the soil. although run off measures at about 1 to 1.4 EC 6.2Ph give or take.

3) Growing Medium - This ones a problem, I began with 30/70 coco perlite but when transplanting the healthy plants I was supplementing with Synth nutes, I was convinced to move them into their new containers that had coco/perlite/amendments and try that in 2gal fab pots. Not sure it helped more than it did cause problems, but I added about 10% Worm castings, 2.5% each bat guano, shrimp meal, azomite meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal to the mix, mixed with microbe compost tea, it caused problems early it seemed so I decided to start supplementing with AN again as well as watering until run off every feed. I recently flushed the medium with 5.7ph'd RO water w/ calmag abt Day 25 of veg, maybe a week after transplanting. Theyre back to being fed as above.

5) What stage of growth - Just finished week 4 of veg today, starting week 5 of veg. Planning to top to 3rd node but not sure if its a good choice given the state

6) Concerns - I'm colorblind, and I have a really hard time telling greens yellows etc unless it is objectively yellow, no hues. I really just wanted to take input from anyone knowledgeable about any deficiencies they may see because I'm convinced she's hurting. I just don't know how, growing quite strong but the colors feel really off to me, way too bright. This goes for my other 3 but this one shows it the most as the others have been defoliated for mainlining. There were some heat and humidity complications towards the beginning of the grow but everythings dialed in between 70-77F and at consistent 45-50 RH for the past 2 weeks. Not sure if showing deficiencies or excess, or neither. too blind man

7) Question - If they make it to some growth, provided i didnt kill em, when transplanting into 5 gal, should I skip amendments and move them into 70/30 once again?

Let me know, thanks, I tried to provide as much info as I could
Looks small for going into 5th week. Has anything happened that might have stunted/shocked the plant?


I have an auto growing at the moment that's really yellowing a lot. It's been like that since it sprouted. Went from FFHF in a 16oz party cup to 5 gal fabric pots filled about 60% with FFOF. I started giving nutes at 25% - AN Connoisseur Grow A & B.

When I transplanted. I coated the hole and sprinkled extreme mykoz around the root ball & pre-watered with calmag.
I let her settle in, and once she started showing me she was getting back to growing... the new growth was still really yellow in the center.. so when she dried out I have her full strength base nutes.. still the same thing. I just recently did a defoliation and opened her up to the light.

So I feel your pain. Wish I had a direct solution for you. IMG_5775.JPG
 
1 ) Growing indoor, Being grown in 4x4
2) Watering everyday once a day, using half feeds of AN 3 Part Micro Grow Bloom w/CalMag, but have moved onto a little more than half during week 4 of veg, Currently under 800W power draw - 4 QB288's with 256 pc's lm301h and 32 pieces CREE 660nm ea with a 315W CMH in between. Added the LED's into veg about week 2, slowly went from 25 % - 50 % - 75 % power draw now at 90%. Currently theyre sitting at about .8-.1 EC feeds of abt a 2:1:1 NPK 5.8Ph, not accounting for whats amended into the soil. although run off measures at about 1 to 1.4 EC 6.2Ph give or take.

3) Growing Medium - This ones a problem, I began with 30/70 coco perlite but when transplanting the healthy plants I was supplementing with Synth nutes, I was convinced to move them into their new containers that had coco/perlite/amendments and try that in 2gal fab pots. Not sure it helped more than it did cause problems, but I added about 10% Worm castings, 2.5% each bat guano, shrimp meal, azomite meal, kelp meal, alfalfa meal to the mix, mixed with microbe compost tea, it caused problems early it seemed so I decided to start supplementing with AN again as well as watering until run off every feed. I recently flushed the medium with 5.7ph'd RO water w/ calmag abt Day 25 of veg, maybe a week after transplanting. Theyre back to being fed as above.

5) What stage of growth - Just finished week 4 of veg today, starting week 5 of veg. Planning to top to 3rd node but not sure if its a good choice given the state

6) Concerns - I'm colorblind, and I have a really hard time telling greens yellows etc unless it is objectively yellow, no hues. I really just wanted to take input from anyone knowledgeable about any deficiencies they may see because I'm convinced she's hurting. I just don't know how, growing quite strong but the colors feel really off to me, way too bright. This goes for my other 3 but this one shows it the most as the others have been defoliated for mainlining. There were some heat and humidity complications towards the beginning of the grow but everythings dialed in between 70-77F and at consistent 45-50 RH for the past 2 weeks. Not sure if showing deficiencies or excess, or neither. too blind man

7) Question - If they make it to some growth, provided i didnt kill em, when transplanting into 5 gal, should I skip amendments and move them into 70/30 once again?

Let me know, thanks, I tried to provide as much info as I could

She’s a little yellow green and you have some starting issues but nothing that can’t be fixed. Her growth is stunted bc of stress, ph, and?

A few things... I’m gonna just touch the surface but there is much depth here...

it depends on what you want to do, if you wanna grow in coco with hydro nutes then do that, if I wanna grow in a coco perlite soil blend and with amendments then do that.
But each of those require very different watering/feeding/ph etc...

for coco your Ph is still a little high, but would work, I think coco guys look for 5.4-5.5 ish range... they water/feed every day, etc...

soil on the other hand... another story.
Ph of 6.5-6.8 ish
Water every other day and not to the same amount as coco. Don’t feed every day and def don’t feed it hydro salt based nutes...soil doesn’t need calmag like coco does...can’t be treated the same etc

If you plan on transplanting, pick a good base soil, FF is ok, if you have access of Roots Organics that’s better but fox will do (you don’t need to feed with fresh soil right away plain water and microbes/compost tea is fine)

or go back to coco into 5 gal and see what happens, but don’t make the mistake of doing a hybrid of methods. Pure coco is awesome it just act differently than other mediums.

best of luck
 
Looks small for going into 5th week. Has anything happened that might have stunted/shocked the plant?


I have an auto growing at the moment that's really yellowing a lot. It's been like that since it sprouted. Went from FFHF in a 16oz party cup to 5 gal fabric pots filled about 60% with FFOF. I started giving nutes at 25% - AN Connoisseur Grow A & B.

When I transplanted. I coated the hole and sprinkled extreme mykoz around the root ball & pre-watered with calmag.
I let her settle in, and once she started showing me she was getting back to growing... the new growth was still really yellow in the center.. so when she dried out I have her full strength base nutes.. still the same thing. I just recently did a defoliation and opened her up to the light.

So I feel your pain. Wish I had a direct solution for you. View attachment 4731554
If you’re growing in FFOF, with AN Connie or any salt based nute, you might be looking at lockout via salt build up, i know AN was making soil versions of their lines but wasn’t sure Connie was yet, even so the salt based nutes always give way to build up/lock out which might be your problem here.

you can always try to break up the salts via rinses made to do so or try a flush and risk flushing away goodies in your soil etc.

Even tho AN claims to have PH perfect tech i would still check the Ph of the solution etc. 6.5-6.8ish
 
Thanks for the replies guys, the stress and stunting definitely has to be related to early nute issues with the transplant as well as the heat and humidity problems. So they've had a rough run so far but I think hopefully salvageable with a better second TP and some extra veg with care
 
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