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New growth deficiency. Please help

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NewGrow15

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I cannot for the life of me figure this out. I have this plant growing in a 5 gallon of nectar of the gods soil. Currently 18/6 and about 2 months old. I'm using the nectar of the gods nutrient line. 4 part with demeters. My soul ph is 6.6 and ppms around 380 soil. I upped the feed today and wondering how long it takes to see recovery

What does this look like to any of you? Any help would be appreciated.
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*BUDS

*BUDS

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Major issue and and it wont be long before it dies unless you get on top of it, not physically .
All new growth is sick and yellow , just throwing extra food and water at it wont help , make it worse.
Re pot into coco and feed with hydro nutes is all i can suggest.
 
Wilderb

Wilderb

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NewGrow15 said:
I think the photo lighting was off for the picture View attachment 3911133
Is that too green?
Also i repotted into 5 gallon about a week ago.
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First off let me say I am not familiar with that soil or those nutes. Did a quick search and did not find the Nute value numbers. What does it say on the bag? I am unsure whether or not there are nutrients in the soil.


Have you been feeding nutes the whole time? I see the very tips of the dark green leaves are burnt.
How did the roots look when you transplanted? Maybe it's just stressed?
Also, is this a photo, a fem or an auto? If not auto, why two months veg?
Keep in mind, those leaves won't "get better". New growth is what you want to watch.
I'll do my best to help.
WE
 
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NewGrow15

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Wilderb said:
First off let me say I am not familiar with that soil or those nutes. Did a quick search and did not find the Nute value numbers. What does it say on the bag? I am unsure whether or not there are nutrients in the soil.


Have you been feeding nutes the whole time? I see the very tips of the dark green leaves are burnt.
How did the roots look when you transplanted? Maybe it's just stressed?
Also, is this a photo, a fem or an auto? If not auto, why two months veg?
Keep in mind, those leaves won't "get better". New growth is what you want to watch.
I'll do my best to help.
WE
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This is a female photo. It's been two months because I'm waiting on my flower tent to finish and also I was looking to use her as a mother. Anyways I started in ocean forest and didn't feed for a month. I repotted in 5 gallon with nectar soil at the bottom. Nectar for the gods soil is low ppm. Their nutrient line operates in 200-600ppm range. It's a calcium based nutrient line and organic. So it's not salt based. I don't have the bag with me as I am at work

Roots looked fine. They did however cover the bottom of the bucket. I do 2 inches or so of perlite and the roots filled that area for sure
 
Wilderb

Wilderb

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NewGrow15 said:
This is a female photo. It's been two months because I'm waiting on my flower tent to finish and also I was looking to use her as a mother. Anyways I started in ocean forest and didn't feed for a month. I repotted in 5 gallon with nectar soil at the bottom. Nectar for the gods soil is low ppm. Their nutrient line operates in 200-600ppm range. It's a calcium based nutrient line and organic. So it's not salt based. I don't have the bag with me as I am at work

Roots looked fine. They did however cover the bottom of the bucket. I do 2 inches or so of perlite and the roots filled that area for sure
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You do 2 inches of perlite on bottom? Of new pot or old pot? Are all the roots in contact with soil right now?
Did this happen after pot up or was it doing it before?
 
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NewGrow15

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Wilderb said:
You do 2 inches of perlite on bottom? Of new pot or old pot? Are all the roots in contact with soil right now?
Did this happen after pot up or was it doing it before?
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I do perlite at the bottom as that is what I read. Is this not a good practice? This started before the up pot. I was worried it was rootbound so i upped it. And yes it's all touching soil now
 
HookahsGarden

HookahsGarden

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I'm just taking an educated guess but it looks like you have some minor elements locked out namely iron and zinc and possibly magnese.

This points to your medium pH being too high , or too alkaline. If I were to guess I would say it is probably about 7.5 pH or higher.
I would do a runoff test of my pH to confirm.Then I would start pushing my pH Down after I Googled the best method of doing so for my growing parameters.

Hope this helps.
Best of luck. Peace
 
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NewGrow15

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HookahsGarden said:
I'm just taking an educated guess but it looks like you have some minor elements locked out namely iron and zinc and possibly magnese.

This points to your medium pH being too high , or too alkaline. If I were to guess I would say it is probably about 7.5 pH or higher.
I would do a runoff test of my pH to confirm.Then I would start pushing my pH Down after I Googled the best method of doing so for my growing parameters.

Hope this helps.
Best of luck. Peace
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With this specific nutrient line the owner recommends a slurry test which is mixing neutral water with equal parts soil to determine ph and soil ppm. As of yesterday it was 6.6
 
Wilderb

Wilderb

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I wouldn't do it but that is just me. Not saying it's wrong, just not something I do.
Does you nute line have a good Cal/mag source?
I have grown in that soil and it can be short in that department.
Could be ph, could be nute lockout. I do organic now so don't bother with PH.
What is your feeding schedule? Do you water/feed every time or do you do water-feed-water?
I still think it's too much nutes, locking out others. But that is only based on what little I know about it. They looked to me like they are slightly stunted and very dark green, which to me says too much N. I found that soil to be high in N.
This is only based on what I have dealt with, I'm no expert.
I would use less nutes (maybe none for a watering or two) and see how she does.
Again, without knowing more, this is my best guess.
WE
 
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NewGrow15

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Wilderb said:
I wouldn't do it but that is just me. Not saying it's wrong, just not something I do.
Does you nute line have a good Cal/mag source?
I have grown in that soil and it can be short in that department.
Could be ph, could be nute lockout. I do organic now so don't bother with PH.
What is your feeding schedule? Do you water/feed every time or do you do water-feed-water?
I still think it's too much nutes, locking out others. But that is only based on what little I know about it. They looked to me like they are slightly stunted and very dark green, which to me says too much N. I found that soil to be high in N.
This is only based on what I have dealt with, I'm no expert.
I would use less nutes (maybe none for a watering or two) and see how she does.
Again, without knowing more, this is my best guess.
WE
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This whole line is a calcium based line and I use a specific one called demeters which is the cal mag. I feed, feed, then water with Herculean harvest which is their main staple. I've read with this organic line that those who use plain watering a have dealt with more issues. I will see if things change in a few days and if not flush it all out again.
 
HookahsGarden

HookahsGarden

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Wilderb said:
I wouldn't do it but that is just me. Not saying it's wrong, just not something I do.
Does you nute line have a good Cal/mag source?
I have grown in that soil and it can be short in that department.
Could be ph, could be nute lockout. I do organic now so don't bother with PH.
What is your feeding schedule? Do you water/feed every time or do you do water-feed-water?
I still think it's too much nutes, locking out others. But that is only based on what little I know about it. They looked to me like they are slightly stunted and very dark green, which to me says too much N. I found that soil to be high in N.
This is only based on what I have dealt with, I'm no expert.
I would use less nutes (maybe none for a watering or two) and see how she does.
Again, without knowing more, this is my best guess.
WE
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If it is too much nutrients locking out other nutrients than it can only be one nutrient and that is potassium.

Potassium has the ability to lockout iron calcium, magnesium ,and zinc.
And iron and zinc is what is currently lacking ,above other things.
And it is easy to overfeed potassium especially if you are using a bloom booster before Flowers are even forming.

Like was advised. Hold off on feeding.
Don't be afraid to flush the soil out if it doesn't clear up with fresh growth in a matter of a week, or if it gets worse.
And of course with soil always let it have a good dry down period between waterings.
Peace
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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leaf tips that go yellow/brown when leaves are green to dark green, is usually an indication of too much fert. You have to be careful how much fert you add, if any, to potting soil that already has fert in it. I think the OP is poisoning the plant with high fert load, especially if ferts are being added frequently. Lack of a nutrient like zinc or Sulphur will cause yellowing at the top of the plant. You want to research what nutrients plants require, then compare that with what you're giving it. Something might be missing.
 
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NewGrow15

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polishpollack said:
leaf tips that go yellow/brown when leaves are green to dark green, is usually an indication of too much fert. You have to be careful how much fert you add, if any, to potting soil that already has fert in it. I think the OP is poisoning the plant with high fert load, especially if ferts are being added frequently. Lack of a nutrient like zinc or Sulphur will cause yellowing at the top of the plant. You want to research what nutrients plants require, then compare that with what you're giving it. Something might be missing.
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I would agree with what your saying. But I'm following this nutrient lines concept of a slurry test which mixes your soil with neutral water to see soil ppm and ph. The slurry ppm was low so I fed. If soil ppm is above 500 then it causes lock out. This is my 3rd run and I have had deficiencies gallore let me tell you
 
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