New NASA Data Blows Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

MuyLocoNC

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New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism



By James Taylor | Forbes – 20 hrs ago

NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."

In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.

Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.

The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.

In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.

When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.


I made sure to highlight the "peer reviewed" since that has been such a litmus test to all the liberal lemmings on whether or not any information is recognized in this ridiculous debate. That's right kiddies, all your computer model predictions are full of shit, just like we have been saying. You put garbage data in and lo' and behold, you get garbage data out.
As I've stated so many times before, the two words that come to mind...Spotted Owl.
 

NoDrama

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NASA isn't relevant anymore, they are just a bunch of hot heads. Most only went to high school, none of them are "Climate" scientists. Everyone knows that government only wants what is best for all. They would never fabricate some global warming story so they could gain more power!

The previous Paragraph was dunked in a nice cold glass of Sarcasm.
 

redivider

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i'm sure reading all the other 'peer reviewed' studies confirming 'global warming' will in no way change your opinion. if i am not mistaken there are around 7,000+ published articles.

because facts rarely matter to y'all.... lol....
 

newworldicon

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i'm sure reading all the other 'peer reviewed' studies confirming 'global warming' will in no way change your opinion. if i am not mistaken there are around 7,000+ published articles.

because facts rarely matter to y'all.... lol....
There are thousands of published works that show differently, it just depends which ones get the most exposure....
 

Prefontaine

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UM,....*cough... Well considering that anyone taking chemistry 101 would be aware that when you release a bunch of flourine into the atmosphere it each individual flourine atom goes from Ozone to Ozone molecule breaking them down, and therefore breaking down out world's insulating barrier, Therefore you have to understand that there are many different ways that we are Fing up our world, which means that just because the temperature doesnt go up doesnt mean your not changing your atmosphere,

We are nothing more than mobile plants, or giant cellular cultures, if the temp is wrong you die, if the ph is wrong you die, if the light is wrong you get cancer and die, if you dont have clean water you die, if you dont get the right nutrients (which means specific cations and anions, remember we are also polluting our world on the atomic level making atoms with the wrong number of neutrons that react with the world in just a slightly different way) you die.

also isnt it funny that the final statement as we defund NASA happens to be "global warming isn't real"
 

Prefontaine

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And whats that about the spotted owl? you think you have the right to end a species? what dont think pandas are worth protecting?

Well then I hope your children's DNA is authored by MONSANTO
 

redivider

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In the political landscape, even facts are up for debate... I guess.
this isn't 'facts'.

it's science.

and most of the science is really nothing more than statistical manipulations..... if you try hard enough, you will always find what you want in a data set. regardless of what's true....
 

UncleBuck

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wanna know why the cherry trees in DC bloom about a month earlier than just 50 years ago?

a global conspiracy.
 

jeff f

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UM,....*cough... Well considering that anyone taking chemistry 101 would be aware that when you release a bunch of flourine into the atmosphere it each individual flourine atom goes from Ozone to Ozone molecule breaking them down, and therefore breaking down out world's insulating barrier, Therefore you have to understand that there are many different ways that we are Fing up our world, which means that just because the temperature doesnt go up doesnt mean your not changing your atmosphere,

We are nothing more than mobile plants, or giant cellular cultures, if the temp is wrong you die, if the ph is wrong you die, if the light is wrong you get cancer and die, if you dont have clean water you die, if you dont get the right nutrients (which means specific cations and anions, remember we are also polluting our world on the atomic level making atoms with the wrong number of neutrons that react with the world in just a slightly different way) you die.

also isnt it funny that the final statement as we defund NASA happens to be "global warming isn't real"
not sure but we may have a new winner for the stupidest post ever.....considering if we are smart enough to understand it.

can some of my peers review the above posting to see if i am correct please? thanks
 

NoDrama

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not sure but we may have a new winner for the stupidest post ever.....considering if we are smart enough to understand it.

can some of my peers review the above posting to see if i am correct please? thanks
yep, its chock full of BS.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Yeah, keep calling the debate over and saying your "alarmist" facts are facts. Maybe if you and the ilk like you keep saying it enough, with absolute conviction, and arrogantly mocking any position other than yours as "deniers", it may be possible to bamboozle some well intentioned folks over to your side.

The fact is, it looks like all those "facts" you hold so dear are all based upon VASTLY EXAGGERATED parameters. It kinda changes everything if calamity is thousands of years off as opposed to just years away, or even worse for the eco-loons, no calamity at all. What would you do with yourselves then, I'm guessing pick a new impending disaster...as you nuts always do. You ain't happy unless you're preaching the evils of some other citizen's activities and trying to control and restrict their lives.

Prefontaine, my inclusion of the spotted owl and how it relates to the practices and agenda of the Eco-Loons as I like to call them, is for a very good reason. The spotted owl folly is just one recent example in a long, long list that proves they will lie and fearmonger any position, with no remorse, because they believe the end justifies the means. They wanted to end logging in the Pacific Northwest, the spotted owl was just a convenient tool. Now years later they openly admit they were wrong, just natural selection, but they crushed the timber industry and sent it packing to Canada and overseas. I guess those trees are more important, but anyways, you get the point.

MMGW is just the lie, the convenient tool to get their goal. Reality be damned, and when it's all disproven and they got what they really wanted, it will be the same story. But hey, look what we did for ya.

It's dishonest and creates fear and conflict where none need exist. I detest it as much as I detest organized religion for the same reason.
 

MuyLocoNC

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What happened fellas, I thought you were all so hot to trot and get this thread moving again. I'm guessing that was before the Nasa information opened a can of whoop-ass on your position. I can't wait to see the back peddling, excuses, insults and outright denial that is sure to come. It won't change anything, but it sure will be fun to watch (like monkeys flinging poo).
 

redivider

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the only one throwing insults in here is you.

i told you already:

you can make a data set say what you want it to say, regardless of what reality is.

i'll find some other 'peer reviewed' study, of which there are like a couple thousand published this year alone, using pretty much the same data set, that'll argue otherwise, and you know what, BOTH OF THEM WILL BE CORRECT.

so a can of whoop ass, it was most certainly not you uneducated fool.

it was typical scientific progress.

the hyper-politicized nature of the debate has HURT the progress of understanding technological advances effects on our climate, if there are any....

inflamatory closing arguments like the one you just let out only show ignorance and at best promote skepticism among those who disagree with you on OTHER topics, such as politics.

good job.
 
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