Newb Closet Coco Grow, 400w MH+HPS

So after taking a hard look at my finances I decided that my smoke related expenditures were getting way out of hand. I made an investment of about $500 to get started with the following items:

10 White Lady seeds - $38 shipped
From: drchronic.com

Closet Grow Kit - $398 shipped
Reflector hood
400watt ballast
HPS bulb
MH conversion bulb
18 one gallon grow bags
9 two gallon grow bags
2.5 cubic ft. Sunleaves brand Coco Coir
Monkey Juice A & B Grow and Bloom
Overdrive Flower booster
Seed starter system
50' mylar
From: HGTSupply.com

PH tester kit - $6
Chlorine neutralizer solution - $7
Wall outlet timer - $5
4 26watt 6500K CFL bulbs - $26
3 sockets w/ dome reflector - $15
Vinegar - $3
Baking Soda - $1
From: Walmart


I started germinating on 04/08 and planted all 10 seeds on 04/11. I used the CFLs for the first five days and then switched to MH. I highly recommend the domes I got at Walmart to anyone using CFLs. They're only $5 each in the tools section. The seed starter system is great for any newb. It is just a styrofoam slab with holes in it which the starter plugs sit in. The slab floats on water and the plugs always stay perfectly moist. I had tap roots hanging three inches into the water two days after planting. I transplanted into the coco and switched on the MH on 04/16. However, there was one sprout which kept it's shell on for a while and was several days behind the others so it remained in the tray. Since coco provides no nutrients whatsoever it is recommended to start with very small doses about a week after sprouting. My liquid measurement skills left something to be desired and I ended up burning the first leaves pretty bad but after a flushing they are looking much better. The only other mishap involved one of my dogs eating a plant so I am now down to nine. Here's some pics of my grow so far. I would love to hear from anyone who has ever come across the White Lady strain before. I got them because they were cheap and this is my first time.

I got my seeds from Dr. Chronic too.....How big is that closet??

great setup, i bought my 400w hps from HTGsupply.com.....the lowest ones they have are about $150.....good luck with your grow

Hey Mared. Checking in here man. Good idea getting the chlorine neutralizer. The tap water around here wreaks of the stuff.

Those plants are looking good B. Don't let your dog get them. Expensive kibble to say the least. Keep the pics coming, k?

bk, my closet is 6'x6'x8'. It's been begging for a garden for a while now. What strain did get from the doctor?

User, great to have you here. I can't upload pics right now because the Sprint network is down but I have a question. As you know, I was killing my babies with 5 mL/L (~18 mL/gal) doses of the A & B. The ones that burned the worst I've been giving straight water. The ones that weren't too bad have been getting just a taste (4 A & B eyedrops per liter). It seems like the ones that have been getting straight water continue to burn though. I guess my question is how long will the residual effects of the burn continue and do you think I should continue with plain water or give light doses? Thanks.

mared juwan said:

bk, my closet is 6'x6'x8'. It's been begging for a garden for a while now. What strain did get from the doctor?

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I got 5 fem White Widows 5 fem Trainwrecks

They were all from Green House Seed Co. which doesn't deal with Americans directly but if you go through Dr. Chronic it is cool

should be interesting to see how you do in that Monkey Juice....If it works out for you then at least I know I have some extra nutes hanging around in the closet.

I actually read on another forum that the reason for Monkey Juice's bad rep is not that it doesn't work but that after a while it starts to smell really bad. This I can believe because I cracked the seals less than two weeks ago and the Part A is already starting to stink. I'm going to be setting up some pretty crucial odor neutralizing systems soon for my plants so it shouldn't be a big problem I hope. I'm going to be using ONA which I hear is pretty powerful stuff. Peep this link for exactly what I'm doing https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/8410-odor-removing-machine.html#post77011
You should definitely check this out if your worried about the smell, bk.

mared juwan said:

User, great to have you here. I can't upload pics right now because the Sprint network is down but I have a question. As you know, I was killing my babies with 5 mL/L (~18 mL/gal) doses of the A & B. The ones that burned the worst I've been giving straight water. The ones that weren't too bad have been getting just a taste (4 A & B eyedrops per liter). It seems like the ones that have been getting straight water continue to burn though. I guess my question is how long will the residual effects of the burn continue and do you think I should continue with plain water or give light doses? Thanks.

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Aw man, I was wrong about the burn in the first place. Who knows if I would steer you right this time? Lets see.......muahahah.

The thing with nute burn is that the leaves affected are uberfucked. The plant won't function efficiently unless it has other foliage to pick up the slack. Plants that young may take a couple of weeks to hit their stride because they don't have many leaves yet. Maybe just flush them a lot. Have you tried that yet?

Nute burn is horrible. My older leaves are pretty much toast on most plants. I was concerned about overwatering before but now I just want that burn to stop so I am going to start watering every other day instead of every three days. And by watering I mean flushing the shit out of them. I don't want all my new beautiful growth to look like the burn victims below them. The pictures below make me sad except the one furthest to the right because it is the only plant that looks relatively well taken care of.

That last one is your heavy feeder. Don't let the burn worry you too much. In no time at all you will have lots of leaves shading those burn victims anyway. Without side/under lighting, they were going to fall off in time. They don't really look too bad compared to some of the fucked up shit I've seen people do to their plants, me included.

I've flushed all of them now to the point that they droop a little bit so I am just going to wait a couple days until they perk back up and continue with the plain water flushes. Thanks for the support, User. I'm really learning a lot so far especially the resilience of the plants despite newb problems like nute burn and veggie-lovin' dogs. I'll keep pics coming on the regular.

Looks like their on the mend, and growing.

You guys aren't going to believe it. My dog(s) managed to get around my barricade and slightly damaged another plant. I suppose the ass beating from the last time was still a little fresh in their memory because they ended up topping one plant and not really hurting it. It is the first pic in the series below and I've named it Topper Harley. Other than that all is well, growth is really fast - looks like I'll have to move my light/plants to the center of the room pretty soon for more space. It is day 15.

I am still wondering when to pick it back up with nutes. Will the plants let me know? They seem happy with plain water still, just some curling of the edges on some leaves - no rust spots on the newest two leaf sets yet, thank goodness.

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You guys aren't going to believe it. My dog(s) managed to get around my barricade and slightly damaged another plant. I suppose the ass beating from the last time was still a little fresh in their memory because they ended topping one plant and not really hurting it. It is the first pic in the series below. Other than that all is well, growth is really fast - looks like I'll have to move my light/plants to the center of the room pretty soon for more space. It is day 15.

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Nice...your plants look farther along than mine......how much are you feeding / watering right now??

My schedule has been really erratic. I've been flushing with water every two or three days. I only gave nutes three times - but it was way too much each time.

mared juwan said:

My schedule has been really erratic. I've been flushing with water every two or three days. I only gave nutes three times - but it was way too much each time.

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man I went down to one of these water oasis and filled up a 3 gallon jug with 3 tsp of PBP and 3 gallons of reverse osmosis water as well as another container of just water for my soil plant(s).

I am hoping they will start to take off here in a couple of days.....

But yours look really good man.....I would beat the stuffing out of my dog for that one....lol

Yeah, I still don't know which one it is so I would be beating one guilty dog and one innocent dog so it just makes me feel worse about the whole situation. I'm rigging up a cargo net type door that will block dogs but still let air into the room. It's ridiculous that I have to go to such lengths to protect my crops but I can't afford to lose anymore. I'm going to start using my trusty eyedropper introduce my plants to nutes again soon.