Newb Questions with 1st grow

JohnnySocko

Active Member
Hi all: before I ask these questions, please know I have done my due diligence and researched as much as practicle, but you can't find it all, so please forgive me if some of the questions seem sorta ubiquitous...

1) I'm growing 3 C99 and 1 Blue mystic; from seed hatched around late April, under 4x54w T5's for 4 weeks or so (piched to 4 mains)and put under 600W of 12/12 around 1st of June.
Nutes: GH Lucas formula 8/16, maintained a constant 1000-1200 ppm w/added cal-mag....pH monitored between 5.4-5.8 (usually 5.8

my problem is the C99 are now stretched out beyond belief despite being less than 8" away from a cool tube....also despite only being topped once, these things have the weakest stems as if they are under fed and under lit (I've maintained a almost perfect ppm/ph the entire grow!!!!!) ...the light is maxed in a 4x4 tent....I did not train them beyond that, what can I do? buds are forming and my guess is if they get any weight the stems will not support them...(tent is wall to wall green!)...has nayone grown C99 and is this normal? (all 3 look to be identical phenos) ....what kind of yield should I expect (pardon the newb question but I gotto know...ha ha)

2) I got beans started of Satori, out of 10, only 5 were strong, the other 5 runted out, is this normal and will I be able to sex them and get them in before the C99 finish?


/appreciate replies and hello!!!!
 

simisimis

Well-Known Member
Hey man,
I've been growing C99 for two grows, one with cfl, one with HPS. With the HPS it streched like mad hardly supporting the buds. Still not sure what caused the stretch. I kind of blaming on HPS color and high P food during the stretch in flower period..
if you have a perfect setup and know how to grow, you can achieve this:
www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/61539-400w-club-show-off-your-539.html#post9229185

with 150W cfl in my case it was more like:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/574212-1st-grow-c99-200w-cfl-2.html#post8599216

and with HPS:
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/626355-2nd-grow-c99-super-lemon-3.html#post8950486

with CFL I got like 40g(1.4oz) form one plant in 3gal pot, from hps, I got 36g in 5gal pot. but I did soil and had a lot of deficiencies to handle, pasting this just something to compare ;)
 

JohnnySocko

Active Member
Hey man,
I've been growing C99 for two grows, one with cfl, one with HPS. With the HPS it streched like mad hardly supporting the buds. Still not sure what caused the stretch. I kind of blaming on HPS color and high P food during the stretch in flower period..
if you have a perfect setup and know how to grow, you can achieve this:
www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/61539-400w-club-show-off-your-539.html#post9229185

with 150W cfl in my case it was more like:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/574212-1st-grow-c99-200w-cfl-2.html#post8599216

and with HPS:
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/626355-2nd-grow-c99-super-lemon-3.html#post8950486

with CFL I got like 40g(1.4oz) form one plant in 3gal pot, from hps, I got 36g in 5gal pot. but I did soil and had a lot of deficiencies to handle, pasting this just something to compare ;)
thanks for the reply...but yeah I did read up on C99 and the stretch thing but GHEEZ! I can handle the stretch but was not expecting the VERY spindly growth; well at least not with 600W and my "decent" experience with hydro.... it is my 1st canabis grow but I'm comfortable with hydro...

I'd post pics but ......:-P

...anyway, I guess its too late for LST with buds showin everywhere (and I mean EVERYWHERE)
 

JohnnySocko

Active Member
^^^ appreciate the fast reply.,....but uh oh.,.,...
then from the looks of this pic, I'm in SERIOUS trouble :sad:

...and yeah I did my reading before I got the beans...I mean I expected stretch but NOT the WEAK spindly growth under 600W HPS ...gheez!!!!
as it is the lil girls got buds everywhere 21 days in flower but they are 12" from the top of the tent and I've had that light damn near POINT BLANK on them trying to control stretch,,,,,

not to whine on my 1st grow but this is disappointing me a lil ...arghhhh....
anybody got a idea to save this grow
 

simisimis

Well-Known Member
well for me streching ended after 20-24 days after flip, then it was only packing buds. being that close to the lamp your main colas might start bleaching and turning into apbino buds due to light intensity.. and you got like 29-32 days to go.. you might wanna put some fence around your pots so u could tie those colas.. on a book i've read that hps with 2000k and high p foods can cause streching, but then again c99 is mostly sativa, no wonder its tall and lanky.. by any chance u can upload any pics?
 
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