Newly transplanted clones looking bad, please help

Ok so I'll try and give a percise breakdown of my room, conditions and what i've done. Also this is my first grow attempt sense age in 10 years when at that time I didn't take it seriously and ended up with crap.

veg room is 5' x 9'

6'' fresh air intake with filter (no fan)

6'' exhaust with 6'' fan running 24 hours

running 8 bulb T5

lights are about 1-1.5 feet above plants 18 hours on

one oscillating wall fan running on low running 24 hours

I can keep the room at 80 degrees or 75 degrees however i cant get it to drop any with lights off. so i've been running 75 degrees 24 hours a day give or take a few degrees depending on the change in outside air temp.

It's cold here right now so i'm running a space heater outside my room at the fresh air intake and a space heater/radiator type inside the room

My biggest room struggle has been humidity. The room has been at 22 RH until yesterday when i bought a humidifier and now its running at 30 RH give or take. I've tried spraying the walls, adding pans with water and hanging towels but that gets me to 39 RH for only around 10 min.

Soil Vermisoil

no nutes yet

water 6.2 PH around 60-65 degrees


So my clones were brought home two nights ago. Honestly they didn't look good. About 20 percent of leaf and stem was dead on each clone. The roots were long, some as long as 5-6" and imbedded in into the neighboring clone cubes. I transplanted all but two clones into 1 ga smart pots and watered about 3/4 dixie cup worth

I couldn't stand looking at all the dead foliage and cut all the dead off with clean sharp trimmers

I also gave a medium strength treated of an organic bug control to the leaves and stems

Sense then I have added no water and have only made attempts to raise my RH

my soil is still moist about 1/2'' down

this boring which for my plants is day two late afternoon they are all looking sad. Leaves wilting down and some leaves twisting. Color seems the same as when i brought them home


So All i can think is either my RH is way to low or they were two badly shocked by transplanting, trimming and bug treatment

These picture are from last night and this morning they are all looking a little worse

The soil looks too dry.

two more pictures

DON'T Panic!!!!
They are not dead....
You can trip the hanging down leaf tips to get the weight from the droop off stems...
Soil looks very dry...
Did you water it through after TP or did you pre mist soil/medium before trans plant?
Give them a 'Trim' and maybe mist soil with spray bottle...
Don't spray green or foiler feed...
Mist soil so roots will go down...
How low did you TP clones?

charface said:

The soil looks too dry.

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1/2'' below the soil surface the soil is moist and darker in color, as well the pots still have some weight to them.

They do not look too bad , if they are able to stay in normal humidity 50% without wilting then do not spray them
just keep the soil moist, and even watering to get the soil evenly moist will be enough for several days
depending on how much the soil may dry out in your room other than that they will need very little water or nutes
you need to be patient they will look shitty before they start developing the root system keeping them too wet will discourage this
once they have rooted into the soil they will start to get deeper green and new shoots will form
this should happen within 10 days or so , your cuttings still have plenty of green on them to survive this process
imo you should just wait for them to start growing do not feed them or spray them, just keep the soil moist
under low light not to much heat

peace

charface said:

The soil looks too dry.

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1/2'' below the soil surface the soil is moist and darker in color, as well the pots still have some weight to them.

selfprovider said:

1/2'' below the soil surface the soil is moist and darker in color, as well the pots still have some weight to them.

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Ok.
New clones tend to fall on their face for a bit.

Sorry guys didn't mean to reply twice with same reply. My computer wigged out for a second. My good friend told me before I started this that it's better to do less and most new people screw up by trying to fix or correct every symptom. But after all the hard work building the veg and flower room, all the money and being patient all day yesterday, waking up and seeing them so sad this morning kinda freaked me out. Those pics are from last night and they are defently more wilting this morning. I'm going to buy two more humidifiers today and try to get that number up and just leave everything be until the solid needs more water of course.

If they stood up all night I think your gonna make it.
if you are freaked out
Put a dome on them for 24 Hours.
A dome could even be a ziplock that you mist the inside of to keep humidity up.
Or a two litre bottle with the bottom cut out.

Looks like the mother was a scruffy old bitch.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not?

Ok so an update. With one extra humidifier I've got the room to 35RH. I'll probably add a third one tomorrow.

So I checked the soil again tonight and it's still moist about 1/2" down and pots are heavy but what I noticed was the clone cube was dry as a bone. So I decided to water three of the droopy plants and leave the rest alone. In a couple hours I will check them all and see if there is a change. If the three I water improved I'll water the rest.

Just keep the humidity high for the first few days until they adjust to the environment and all should be good.

Ok, so check out this plant. its one of the wilted plants from the first picture I posted, the wilting has eased up buts its yellowing pretty quick. I also attached a pic of the soil i'm using. I still have not fed any nutrients. I've just been sticking to water.

Yellowing fast, prolly making some roots hopefully.

I've had bottoms do that coming back from flower, every piece yellowed and died.
I went to pull them out of the rapid rooters and they wouldn't come out had roots lol.

turned out to be some nice plants.

You spray neem on them?

Be patient they might bounce back.

At this point treat them "like" any other plant. They'll be fine.

bird mcbride said:

At this point treat them "like" any other plant. They'll be fine.

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So should I start feeding them liquid nutes now? And move the T5's right down on top of them? Also side question, does soil expire. I just noticed my Vermisoil has an experation date of 06/13. No wonder sales guy talked me into that instead of the FFOF and leap frog.

You could give light nutes to try and help with the yellowing, but I'd make it a light mixture. Clones always turn yellow when they switch to root production. As for the T5, the reason people usually keep lights farther away from young plants is because they are using a hot MH, never had any problems with a T5 being too close....not sure about the soil...I'd guess if it still smells ok, it's probably ok.

Clones are not "like" seedlings. They need food right away after they root.