Nitrogen Deficiency???

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #1

Auto in soil. Using Dr Earth dry nutes. Top dressed 2 tbsp per gallon at day 21. That was a 50/50 of home grown and flower girl. Day 40 did 5tbsp of flower girl and one of home grown. It's Day 44. Is this a nitrogen deficiency. It started at the bottom now its creeping upward. New growth is perfect.

If it's nitrogen what is the best way to treat her? I give calmag every other watering.

 

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Johiem

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #2

Yep, nailed it. Can't offer much advice, I use liquids.

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #3

Johiem said:

Yep, nailed it. Can't offer much advice, I use liquids.

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I was thinking about making a tea with 3 tbsp of 4-4-4 all purpose or should I buy some liquid nitrogen? I'm in soil doing it organically.

 

Budzbuddha

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #4

Fish hydrolysate

Alaska brand fish fertilizer for example - home depot.

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #5

Budzbuddha said:

Fish hydrolysate

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Anything I could do now? A tea of worm castings and all purpose? I'll order the fish hydro right now. I wonder if big box sells it

 

Budzbuddha

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #6

Home depot has it .

 

Budzbuddha

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #7

I use Kelloggs Fish and Kelp. Garden centers / nursery available.

 

PadawanWarrior

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #8

Budzbuddha said:

Home depot has it .

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Alaska Fish is emulsion, not hydrolysate. So it stinks more, but it works well.

 

Budzbuddha

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #9

Yeah but in a pinch would work.

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #10

Budzbuddha said:

Home depot has it .

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I see hydrolysate vs emulsion. The process is different is one better?

 

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Budzbuddha

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• Sep 23, 2022

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Pimpjuice9906 said:

I see hydrolysate vs emulsion. The process is different is one better?

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To the end user - probably not.
Although i like using kelp in all soil grows.
Thats why use Kelloggs. It actually helps with hydrophobic peat mixes.

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #12

I was about to use a tea but I'll run to HD for the fish emulsion.

 

HydroKid239

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #13

I just started using this. I’m using it with my synthetic, and organic pots.

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #14

I'm just asking. Do teas do well in a soil mix?

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #15

Budzbuddha said:

To the end user - probably not.
Although i like using kelp in all soil grows.
Thats why use Kelloggs. It actually helps with hydrophobic peat mixes.

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@PadawanWarrior
how much do you typically use on a 3 galon pot. This plant smells amazing already

 

farmerfischer

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #16

Yeah you can make worm casting tea and if you have alfalfa use that to until you can get something stronger to kick her back in gear..

 

farmerfischer

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #17

Pimpjuice9906 said:

@PadawanWarrior
how much do you typically use on a 3 galon pot. This plant smells amazing already

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Fish emulsion had the oder.. pretty gnarly smelling indoors.

 

PadawanWarrior

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #18

Pimpjuice9906 said:

@PadawanWarrior
how much do you typically use on a 3 galon pot. This plant smells amazing already

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3 gal is a bit small for organics, but it can be done. I start all my clones in 1/2 gals and they can go awhile until they get really pissed off and need a bigger pot with more food, but it depends on how big you let them get too.

The emulsion works great, it just smells way more.

And teas are awesome in organic soil. I'm just too lazy anymore. The plants love it though.

 

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Pimpjuice9906

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #19

Few leaves.

They were doing well. I noticed this a week ago and got too busy now I'm here.

Should I do tea or emulsion?
@PadawanWarrior @Budzbuddha @farmerfischer

 

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PadawanWarrior

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• Sep 23, 2022

• #20

Pimpjuice9906 said:

Few leaves.

They were doing well. I noticed this a week ago and got too busy now I'm here.

Should I do tea or emulsion?
@PadawanWarrior @Budzbuddha @farmerfischer

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That droop isn't under fertilization. More like over or under watered, or root issues.

But either tea or fish fertilizer would be good. A EWC based tea would be best though. I'd add some fish fertilizer to the tea too along with EWC and a little molasses.

And remember that top dressing will take a couple weeks or so to really start working and organics work slower than chems. So you gotta be proactive with topdressing.