noob needs help

gxsmit8

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can someone please give me some advice? im growing in soil with 3 gal., been in flower for18 days. running 2x4x4 grow tent, 400w hps. very top leaves by flower sites are curling and discolored.
 

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Indacouch

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They look nute nuked and overwatered .....dark green with burnt tips is your indicator that your N is way to high .....and that sad droop usually means you're watering/keeping the soil moist constantly with no dry period ......back off the food and make sure you let the soil dry out before you water ......keep it simple .....and next time you have a question ,,,give us more info like ,,,type of soil and brand of nutes and how much your giving etc etc etc .....GL
 

gxsmit8

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okay, flushed last night with just a little molasses. ive been running half auggested nutes, so im a bit surprised. also, bottom leaves are not showing any symptoms, i thought nute burn started on botttom leaves
 

gxsmit8

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sorry, running a mix of fox farm ocean, mixed with plain dirt and 25% perlite. using supernatural nutes and plants looked great up until flowering. here are some pics during veg
 

Indacouch

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okay, flushed last night with just a little molasses. ive been running half auggested nutes, so im a bit surprised. also, bottom leaves are not showing any symptoms, i thought nute burn started on botttom leaves
Molasses is just to feed microbes in the soil ...it's not guna hurt anything that you did that ,,,but isn't a cure IMO either ....high N can show up as dark dark green growth in the new or appear to be blotchy other times ....your dark green plant with the burnt tips is an indicator of to much N ....when I go into flower I back the N down even more and start using bloom which has N in it as well ...in my case at least ....I'm not familiar with your nutes ...but most nutes can be ran at quarter recommended dosage and be fine
 

gxsmit8

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i did change over from Terra Grow to Terra Bloom (thats the product name from Supernatural) which has much lower nitrogen. 10-33-10 i believe. my temps are running 81 degrees at times, will that enhance my nute problem?
. i thought the plants were to close to light, so i tucked them under sog net.
 

Indacouch

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So those may appear to look better to you than they do now .....but look closely and you'll see that dark dark green in the leafs I spoke about earlier and the start of the yellow tips as well.....next time you know even in this picture,,your N was way to high.....so let's say you started a synthetic bloom when flowering started ....which I assume you did ,,which would be the logical thing to do .....well a lot of syn bloom nutes have N in them as well ,.just at lower levels ,,,,so your N was high already and then adding your bloom is probably what caused your current situation .....then you got ffof soil which has goodies in it as well ....I phase out my veg nutes at the beginning of flower just because my bloom nutes have enough N to hold the plants fine .....and I could always add a bit if a strain is hungry for some ......always easier to give a lil more than to take away .....but your growing and learning ....that's the important part .....we've all been there ......I'd give just normal water for a bit ....but let them dry out inbetween waterings ....that's super important ....GL
 

dannyboy602

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okay, flushed last night with just a little molasses. ive been running half auggested nutes, so im a bit surprised. also, bottom leaves are not showing any symptoms, i thought nute burn started on botttom leaves
U can get burn with only 1/4 the suggested rate...Don't flush anymore. It doesn't work the way you think it does. Those nuclear strength nutes are some of the worst products you can buy...if it were mine I'd sell them to someone else bc they're expensive. Stick with the powdered blue form of fertilizer...its balanced and gives the plant almost everything it needs. Even better use a rich, fertile soil mix and just water. For the average 8 week grow it should have enough fertility inherent to last through the whole grow.
I think the plant will turn around but you have to stop killing it with kindness.
 

gxsmit8

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these are the powdery blue kind. i got this free sample pack from local brew and grow store here in MN. i also noticed the tops of my plants are minaturized, they stretched to about 8 inches from hps, so i sog'd them and already they look happier.

i will let u all know how it turns out.
 
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