Not sure whats going on???? please help

cvbud

cvbud

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So I have 26 babies that came from and ezclone into soil 1 gallon plants. i water about once every three days. These three are the only plants that show large amounts of stress. I cant seem to figure out whats going on. I read the diagnosis threads. Read the bible and still am having a hard time pin pointing the problem. according the the book, i may have several issues. This is my first grow and am showing all the signs of a newbie.

PH is 6.5

tap water about 160ppm after PH'd

easy frog soil

18 hours of light

humidity stays around 27

I also am including a mother that went into flower for some reason. Just wondering what i can do to get this guy back into veg mode?

Thanks for any help.
 

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cannabluntcies

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Bad news. Revegged plants tend to loose their genetic integrity. the clones you take from her will suffer from lower yield and potency from most of what i have read. There are some who claim it makes no diff. If you plan on continue cloning from her It wouldnt be a bad idea to research what im saying and come to your own conclusion. Personally id just flower her out and pop some more seeds to find a new keeper.
 
Widow Maker

Widow Maker

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Looks kinda burned. leaf curl? burnt tips? Try to flush and check your meter cause where Im from tap water is 250-350 ppm. Prolly a little over watering going on too. Those little ones can prolly go 5-7 days between waterings.
 
toquer

toquer

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i would say those 3 plants don't have sufficient roots to deliver what is needed for proper growth. Try a foliar application of a combination of grow and flower base nutes. 50:50 pH should be about 7.0 for foliar feed and start with about 400ppm. if you have a compost tea add that to the foliar spray and you should recover within about a week. spray both sides of the leaf and the stem, do this away from the light, preferably in the shade and then once it is dry again return it to the light.

as far as revegging those plants. imho they are too far along. easiest is to look for something cloneable near the bottom of the plant. it'll take a month to develop roots on this and meantime it'll grow about a foot tall and the leaves will curl, grow in circles, have an even number of leaves, not develop much stem strength and all sorts of other fun things. i've done this 5 times now while working on developing a strain. Once it re-vegges you'll want to trim every ugly leaf off, spray with a foliar application and coat with a rooting hormone. then burry everything except for the top few leaves that look like new growth.

i've had no change in yield, potency, growth habit, resistance, trait, etc... if anything that plant that re-vegged creates such a massive root system and new stock that it's typically larger than the original seed it came from. but genetic mutation can take place at any time and all it takes is 1 nucleotide to be miscoded and viola, you've got something different.
 
cvbud

cvbud

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toquer said:
i would say those 3 plants don't have sufficient roots to deliver what is needed for proper growth. Try a foliar application of a combination of grow and flower base nutes. 50:50 pH should be about 7.0 for foliar feed and start with about 400ppm. if you have a compost tea add that to the foliar spray and you should recover within about a week. spray both sides of the leaf and the stem, do this away from the light, preferably in the shade and then once it is dry again return it to the light.

as far as revegging those plants. imho they are too far along. easiest is to look for something cloneable near the bottom of the plant. it'll take a month to develop roots on this and meantime it'll grow about a foot tall and the leaves will curl, grow in circles, have an even number of leaves, not develop much stem strength and all sorts of other fun things. i've done this 5 times now while working on developing a strain. Once it re-vegges you'll want to trim every ugly leaf off, spray with a foliar application and coat with a rooting hormone. then burry everything except for the top few leaves that look like new growth.

i've had no change in yield, potency, growth habit, resistance, trait, etc... if anything that plant that re-vegged creates such a massive root system and new stock that it's typically larger than the original seed it came from. but genetic mutation can take place at any time and all it takes is 1 nucleotide to be miscoded and viola, you've got something different.
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so can i throw that plant into the flower room and finish it off or will it just end up a dud? It has been in the veg for about a week, just sitting their while its brothers continue to flurish.

now you said something about leaf twist? what does that mean, cause i have once of my little guys twisting, and a few others with a slight curl. does that mean im taking clones from a wacky mother?

thanks for your help.
 
toquer

toquer

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i would definately say keep it in veg until it's healthy and ready to flower. you don't want an unhealthy plant next to your good looking girls. chance of infection too great and then having that run out of control in the middle of a grow? definately not worth the risk.

i've attached a few pictures of one of my plants revegging for you to see. let me know if you don't see the areas where the plant has undergone major stress. at the top you'll see 2 new leaves and the apical meristem, this was all that was left above ground when it was at this point. i'l going to see if i can find pictures of the maui's when they clones reverted. they were much more impressive, but this strain knocks the daylights out of the maui's.





 
cvbud

cvbud

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toquer said:
i would definately say keep it in veg until it's healthy and ready to flower. you don't want an unhealthy plant next to your good looking girls. chance of infection too great and then having that run out of control in the middle of a grow? definately not worth the risk.

i've attached a few pictures of one of my plants revegging for you to see. let me know if you don't see the areas where the plant has undergone major stress. at the top you'll see 2 new leaves and the apical meristem, this was all that was left above ground when it was at this point. i'l going to see if i can find pictures of the maui's when they clones reverted. they were much more impressive, but this strain knocks the daylights out of the maui's.





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I def see the stress. haha. i think my little guys will look similar. i think im going to agree with the over water, and over nuts for the little ones.

now for the big guy and either flowering, or vegging? since i have three other potential mothers, i think i should just move the big guy into flower and try to get what i can out of it? do i run the risk of contaminating the other plants by doing so? i think thats what your trying to say?

anyway, i need to make a trip over to the room and get some more shots. if you want to see the entire crop, you can check out my grow journal Medical Grow op, NEWBIE!!! so far so good. Comments are welcome.

i am going to be updating it later in the day. but the four big guys are the potential mothers i will use to begin another crop.


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