NPK fermentation pics

808Med

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2 months of fermentation:

T-Leaf Hawaiian.
Papaya Leaf.
Tahitian Gardenia.
Aloe Cuts.

I got these Materials local.

Im pretty sure it’s now NPK and potent.

You think it can burn a plant if not diluted?
 

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Red Hard Head

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Not likely to burn. Those ingredients are very low NPK. Still a good ferment.
I tried these in the bush on the Hamakua coast. I'd soak these in a 55g barrel I hiked out for 2 days. Better results using rotten mangos for phos plus you get a sugar boost, burn or soak banana trunk for potassium. Comfrey is amazing too. As far a nitrogen from local plant sources Sunn hemp, crotolaria, grows all over. Or find a Filipino with some roosters and use the manure. Top dress some coral sand and should be all right.
 

Phytoplankton

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No way to really know, unless you have it analyzed. I know aloe and papaya leaf can be useful, don’t know about gardenia and Ti leaf. Try it on a plant and see what happens. How did you come to use those ingredients?
 

808Med

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Figured out everything that’s commercial is already mastered within traditional ancient techniques.

Was tryna get Terpene boost too.
 

808Med

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Fermentation and Tea is happening naturally without humans!

Wise to keep it local and 0 waste.

Bonus is over generations it will start to make a Hawaiian Strain!
 

Beeswings

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Fermentation and Tea is happening naturally without humans!

Wise to keep it local and 0 waste.

Bonus is over generations it will start to make a Hawaiian Strain!
Be super cool to have your own "Hawaiian adapted" phenos of what ever you want after growing and selecting for 10 years or however long it takes! I have a home soil test kit for stuff like this. Comes in real handy, without measuring everything is just a wild guess at best.
 

808Med

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Be super cool to have your own "Hawaiian adapted" phenos of what ever you want after growing and selecting for 10 years or however long it takes! I have a home soil test kit for stuff like this. Comes in real handy, without measuring everything is just a wild guess at best.
Definitely .

I’m trying to convert Cali A grade to that (pinner/ 37% THC, Sativa, Dense) shit that Hawaiians have made.

I’m 99% certain it’s simply the environment that does it over generations.

I guess the first guys got credit, but not too convincing that it was they themselves .

Because now I’m realizing even if it (was) a high-yielding A grade Cali strain.
The next thing that will happen is it’ll start to conform with the Hawaiian environment.

Then it will have Hawaiian characteristics eventually that (small yielding 37% THC outdoor strain).

* Hypothesis.

So I’m using all Hawaiian ingredients because it’s worth the cost of everything it takes to make a Hawaiian strain. Vs doing it for shallow reasons!

ShakaZzzZz
 

808Med

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Wanted to mention that I digress with the discredited comment.

Looking at Exotic Genetix that breeder is proof it has allot to do with you as a breeder!!!
 

Beeswings

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Wanted to mention that I digress with the discredited comment.

Looking at Exotic Genetix that breeder is proof it has allot to do with you as a breeder!!!
For sure a good breeder will help you have a good start at looking for good phenos that do well in your environment, but after that it's up to your talent/luck as a grower/selector.
 

Beeswings

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At least while you're doing all this long game work with photos you can grow practically any auto you want and at least have weed to smoke/kind of try out different strains with while you're growing weed anyway.
 

Beeswings

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Definitely .

I’m trying to convert Cali A grade to that (pinner/ 37% THC, Sativa, Dense) shit that Hawaiians have made.

I’m 99% certain it’s simply the environment that does it over generations.

I guess the first guys got credit, but not too convincing that it was they themselves .

Because now I’m realizing even if it (was) a high-yielding A grade Cali strain.
The next thing that will happen is it’ll start to conform with the Hawaiian environment.

Then it will have Hawaiian characteristics eventually that (small yielding 37% THC outdoor strain).

* Hypothesis.

So I’m using all Hawaiian ingredients because it’s worth the cost of everything it takes to make a Hawaiian strain. Vs doing it for shallow reasons!

ShakaZzzZz
Are there any small guano islands you could like kayak out to and grab some free nitrogen rich sea bird guano?
 

808Med

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O yeah literally everything you’d need to grow ancient techniques exists naturally.

I’ve seen some weather patterns that brew Compost Tea bubbles in the rivers!

I’ve felt hot earth from Compost and rain.

Obviously I’d need to test it with bio markers PH etc.
 

808Med

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Now theres no need to really grow in the mountains.

Because you can simply buy local Organic Nui soil and other cheap local Hawaii products that have forest compost from trimmings.

But ultimately you have to learn the organic techniques from that environment because it is a brute force hack of everything in organic nutes.

Fermentation. NPK.
Tea. Microbes.
Compost. Food for microbes.

Somehow it’s all happening at once in nature.

Need to replicate that in the medical/ recreational world.
 

808Med

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At least while you're doing all this long game work with photos you can grow practically any auto you want and at least have weed to smoke/kind of try out different strains with while you're growing weed anyway.
Yeah Photo Fem Autos, regs. (Stabilized) that’s what’s actually not an environmental threat.

I don’t encourage Australian Bastard weed, Wild Thai, duck foot, or Wild Afghan.

As we know these are capable of endangering the environment by hermaphroditism.
 

Beeswings

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Now theres no need to really grow in the mountains.

Because you can simply buy local Organic Nui soil and other cheap local Hawaii products that have forest compost from trimmings.

But ultimately you have to learn the organic techniques from that environment because it is a brute force hack of everything in organic nutes.

Fermentation. NPK.
Tea. Microbes.
Compost. Food for microbes.

Somehow it’s all happening at once in nature.

Need to replicate that in the medical/ recreational world.
Allegedly there is something to growing in the mountains as allegedly the altitude and less atmosphere are way less prone to fungus and also promote more trichomes, allegedly this is one of the secrets to northern Cali weed.
 

Beeswings

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Allegedly there is something to growing in the mountains as allegedly the altitude and less atmosphere are way less prone to fungus and also promote more trichomes, allegedly this is one of the secrets to northern Cali weed.
You can tell my weed is allegedly pretty good from my over use of the word allegedly. Allegedly.
 

Red Hard Head

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Definitely .

I’m trying to convert Cali A grade to that (pinner/ 37% THC, Sativa, Dense) shit that Hawaiians have made.

I’m 99% certain it’s simply the environment that does it over generations.

I guess the first guys got credit, but not too convincing that it was they themselves .

Because now I’m realizing even if it (was) a high-yielding A grade Cali strain.
The next thing that will happen is it’ll start to conform with the Hawaiian environment.

Then it will have Hawaiian characteristics eventually that (small yielding 37% THC outdoor strain).

* Hypothesis.

So I’m using all Hawaiian ingredients because it’s worth the cost of everything it takes to make a Hawaiian strain. Vs doing it for shallow reasons!

ShakaZzzZz
Shit. You should be growing real pakalolo. Not mainland genetics. My dad and his buddies still have pre green harvest strains they keep going. True poi dog genetics, stabilized. Its far stronger, longer lasting high, unbelievable terps and can grow it all 3 seasons, and if really motivated also the mini season. You can even regrow the buggers a second time.
I grow my dads pakalolo seeds on the mainland and its always stronger than anybodys name brand clones.
 

Red Hard Head

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Now theres no need to really grow in the mountains.

Because you can simply buy local Organic Nui soil and other cheap local Hawaii products that have forest compost from trimmings.

But ultimately you have to learn the organic techniques from that environment because it is a brute force hack of everything in organic nutes.

Fermentation. NPK.
Tea. Microbes.
Compost. Food for microbes.

Somehow it’s all happening at once in nature.

Need to replicate that in the medical/ recreational world.
The fuck there isn't a need to be way up mauka! The UV!
 
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