thanx for reply its dwc setup using flora nova bloom and calmag plus in 5 gal buckts .ventilation is perfect temps never over 80 bringing in fresh air from outside always ... ph seems to be good and stable 5.7 it rises a bit daily to about 6.. I did have about 1 week the ppm went up to 1700 on .5 conversion ...lately I have been adding only ph water with a bit of calmag to get the ppm to 600 every day the ppm rises about 50 ppm the plants are drinking about 2 litres a day....