Obama's War On Medical Marijuana Just Got Even Uglier

Padawanbater2

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http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2012/jul/12/obamas_war_medical_marijuana_jus

One month ago, Eric Holder testified before Congress that the Dept. of Justice is only targeting medical marijuana businesses that violate their state's laws. Anyone who didn't realize it was a lie should be getting the message right about now.

The federal government is moving to shut down the nation's largest and highest-profile
medical marijuana dispensary operation, filing papers to seize properties in Oakland and San Jose where Harborside Health Center does business.

Copies of the federal Complaint for Forfeiture were taped to the front doors of the two dispensaries Tuesday, alleging that they were "operating in violation of federal law."

Medical marijuana advocates, as well as some state and local officials, decried the action, saying it hurts patients in legitimate need of the drug and breaks repeated promises by
President Obama's Justice Department that it was targeting only operations near schools and parks or otherwise in violation of the state's laws. [LA Times]


They're not even pretending it's about state law anymore. Harborside has a permit from the City of Oakland and pays millions in taxes to the state of California. They've been covered extensively in the press, and featured on the Discovery Channel program "Weed Wars". Everyone knows exactly what goes on inside Harborside because we've seen it with our own eyes: they provide high-quality medical cannabis and other services to qualified patients. This is the definition of a legal and well-regulated medical marijuana dispensary.

So how are the feds justifying their attempt to shut down the most responsible business in the industry? They are claiming, I kid you not, that it's just too successful:

I now find the need to consider actions regarding marijuana superstores such as Harborside. The larger the operation, the greater the likelihood that there will be abuse of the state’s medical marijuana laws, and marijuana in the hands of individuals who do not have a demonstrated medical need. –
U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag


This is beyond outrageous and it flies in the face of even the most recent excuses put forward by the Attorney General and the President himself when attempting to justify their escalating war on medical marijuana.

By targeting Harborside solely on the basis of its reputation as the nation's "biggest" medical marijuana provider, DOJ forgets something rather important: it's the biggest because it's the best. Harborside is a model of safe, secure, patient-oriented medical marijuana services. It's also a model of legal compliance, and any effort to shut its doors simply obliterates the Attorney General's recent claims that DOJ is merely upholding local laws. He really should stop saying that.

It boggles the mind to imagine what sort of perverted logic is driving Obama's vicious assault on a voting block that helped elect him four years ago. What little the President has said on the matter in recent months is now even more obviously false, and if it isn’t about upholding state laws, then the question of the Administration's true agenda is something about which we can only speculate. It isn't winning him any votes, that's for sure.

Today, anyone who's tried to make excuses for Obama's horrible handling of all this should just stop. Anyone who says this President is secretly a friend of the marijuana reform movement should close their mouth. Anyone who's claimed that "they're only busting bad dispensaries" can cut the crap. This is a war. It's Obama's war. And to my friends who are too afraid of Mitt Romney right now to criticize Obama, I say you're making our President more dangerous by meeting his mistakes with silence.

If you don’t want Obama to destroy medical marijuana in America, this would be a good time to speak up about it.



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ginwilly

Well-Known Member
not that I think Romney will give up the war either.... but at least his delusional base isn't trying to convince us he is. this post created or saved 4million jobs
 

Styles T

Active Member
0ne thing I must p0int 0ut is that 0bama is many faces n0t just 0ne and what I mean by that, it's a gr0up eff0rt, 0bama is just the face 0f the nation. He may be pr0tecting himself 4rm getting hurt in many ways. I'm not really inv0lved in politics but a l0t of pe0ple shun him away saying that he hasn't really d0ne anything since he became president. B.S.! He came into the game when things were@it's w0rst4America and any president w0uld have had a hard time with that. 0n a professi0nal level he just can't be speaking about it freely as every0ne wants him t0. And the feds need to really stop it with all this non-sense! What they think pe0ple are really going t0 stop selling and sm0king the best thing 0n this crazy twisted place that we live in, momentarily-hell n0! It's much safer to get it through dispensaries than 0ut 0n the street. They can continue this 'war' all they want but we all know that alcohol is the worst drug 0n the market and yet they sell it publicly. MAKES NO TYPE OF SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think the kicker (as someone pointed out on another thread) is the sheer sophistry Haag displayed in mentioning "demonstrated medical need". With weed in Schedule 1, the Feds can say there is no such thing. Catch-22 is alive and well. They don't want us in their playground, even though they come from two blocks farther away than we did. cn
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
0ne thing I must p0int 0ut is that 0bama is many faces n0t just 0ne and what I mean by that, it's a gr0up eff0rt, 0bama is just the face 0f the nation. He may be pr0tecting himself 4rm getting hurt in many ways. I'm not really inv0lved in politics but a l0t of pe0ple shun him away saying that he hasn't really d0ne anything since he became president. B.S.! He came into the game when things were@it's w0rst4America and any president w0uld have had a hard time with that. 0n a professi0nal level he just can't be speaking about it freely as every0ne wants him t0. And the feds need to really stop it with all this non-sense! What they think pe0ple are really going t0 stop selling and sm0king the best thing 0n this crazy twisted place that we live in, momentarily-hell n0! It's much safer to get it through dispensaries than 0ut 0n the street. They can continue this 'war' all they want but we all know that alcohol is the worst drug 0n the market and yet they sell it publicly. MAKES NO TYPE OF SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I ask what the point was to replace every 'o' with the number '0' in your post?

 

Dislexicmidget2021

Well-Known Member
They are claiming, I kid you not, that it's just too successful:<-----What a sad reasoning behind their efforts to shut down such a reputable dispensary.They seem as though they just want to make an example out of this.Any legit dispensary becoming to great in its income and business will be target of future action as they can simply speculate on what they think is going on such as the potential for illegal operations and sales then mandate a shutdown.The Fed continualy step on the people without a care in the world.Individuals that need medication are of no consequence to them either.If its marijuana then it is up for conjecture at their convenience,legit or not.What the hell are they really doing?The Fed needs to be abolished,this is just sickening.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
Just give them a moment and they'll tell you it isn't Obama's fault.
seconds after you post this Toorop post a thread about Romney making pepsi a schedule one drug......lol

I have been waiting for Bucky to post some shit about it all being ninja work of Obama, its all planned for the final frontier crap. Or slam it with meme's and personal insults. The lefties are getting desperate, this forum is becoming great comedy.
 

Winter Woman

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The left has always loved to yell, scream, throw things.

I heard today from Obama that the government made the internet and here all this time I thought it was Al Gore.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
The longer you believe it's a matter of politics and not a matter of money the longer incidents like this will keep happening.
 

brotherjericho

Well-Known Member
0ne thing I must p0int 0ut is that 0bama is many faces n0t just 0ne and what I mean by that, it's a gr0up eff0rt, 0bama is just the face 0f the nation. He may be pr0tecting himself 4rm getting hurt in many ways. I'm not really inv0lved in politics but a l0t of pe0ple shun him away saying that he hasn't really d0ne anything since he became president. B.S.! He came into the game when things were@it's w0rst4America and any president w0uld have had a hard time with that. 0n a professi0nal level he just can't be speaking about it freely as every0ne wants him t0. And the feds need to really stop it with all this non-sense! What they think pe0ple are really going t0 stop selling and sm0king the best thing 0n this crazy twisted place that we live in, momentarily-hell n0! It's much safer to get it through dispensaries than 0ut 0n the street. They can continue this 'war' all they want but we all know that alcohol is the worst drug 0n the market and yet they sell it publicly. MAKES NO TYPE OF SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fyi, the "o" button is almost directly below the "0" button on your keyboard.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Medical Marijuana is has and always will be a Joke. There is momentem now.

Make Marijuana illegal to sell, with the exception of clones and seeds
Legal to possess

Take the money completly out of the equation

How many people with medical marijuana cards actually have a ailment where they need marijuana?

See and that is the problem
The illusion that medical marijuana is for sick people is just that
A easily destroyed illusion

Now if you make it illegal to sell
But legal to possess.
Then everyone will be growing their own
And for those who cannot grow (puhleese) It will be so readily available
They should be able to get hooked up by some freinds
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

Well-Known Member
I think the kicker (as someone pointed out on another thread) is the sheer sophistry Haag displayed in mentioning "demonstrated medical need". With weed in Schedule 1, the Feds can say there is no such thing. Catch-22 is alive and well. They don't want us in their playground, even though they come from two blocks farther away than we did. cn
They USED to be able to say that...but with the internet and the massive amounts of information avaialble to us all we know it is a flat out LIE! I posted this way back, but here it is again...

While searching for 'cannabis related grants':
I find:
http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/r...DA-04-014.html
Which is a Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS)
grant that specifically points to cannabis use as a 'illness or disorder'!
PURPOSE OF THIS RFA
The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) is seeking grant
applications focusing on the identification, evaluation and development
of safe and effective pharmacological treatments for cannabis-related
disorders (CRDs), such as cannabis abuse or dependence, and cannabis-
induced disorders (e.g., intoxication, delirium, psychotic disorder,
and anxiety disorder), and their comorbidity with other medical and
psychiatric disorders (e.g., depression), with special interest in the
treatment of children and adolescents. Cannabis use includes marijuana,
hashish, and other tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) containing substances.

Now please pay close attention to the dates (specifically, the release date):
Also, the AGENCIES participating in the grant!
MEDICATIONS DEVELOPMENT FOR CANNABIS-RELATED DISORDER
RELEASE DATE: December 1, 2003
RFA NUMBER: RFA-DA-04-014 - (Reissued as RFA-DA-09-001)
Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS)
PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATION:
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
(http://www.nih.gov)
COMPONENT OF PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATION:
National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)
(http://www.nida.nih.gov)
CATALOG OF FEDERAL DOMESTIC ASSISTANCE NUMBER: 93.279
LETTER OF INTENT RECEIPT DATE: February 20, 2004
APPLICATION RECEIPT DATE: March 23, 2004

The very SAME US Gov agency that calls out marijuana use as BAD, gets granted U.S Patent #6630507...in Oct 2003!
Just check out US Patent 6630507 titled “Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants” which is assigned to The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services.
Now if one agency of the government is denying that cannabis has "Any medical benefit"...and the Department of Health and Human Services gets issued a U.S. PATENT ON ITS MEDICAL BENEFITS...HOW on earth can the gov keep trying to push that same old lie to everyone?
How blantantly does our gov need to lie to us before we finally call them on it? Seriously.
So how do you do this?
Use the system against them- It's called the "Freedom of Information Act".
If some genius (ahem) were to file a 'Freedom of Information Act' regarding the memo or letter between these 2 gov agencies discussing the medical benefits (or lack therof) you would not only have the smoking gun, but would catch them lyng about it as well.
This is soo absurdly simple, it's crazy!!! Everyone has been arguing for YEARS on how to get the gov. to finally admit they were either wrong, or lying about it WHOLE TIME!
You only have to call them a liar...and make them prove what they mean, once and for all.

I cannot believe how much more focused I am while medicated!

So, in the big picture of things-
1. The Freedom of Information Act request is filed
2. The Gov. only has so many days to act on the request, and they have to acknowledge it
3. Gov comes back with request results stating that no coordination between agencies ever occurred, so requested document does not exist.
4. Gov now realizes that they look stupid for granting themselves a patent based on the research or findings of at least 2 other Gov. agencies (both NAMED on the same grant above)which totally disagree with each other on the issue..
5. Cat is out of the bag and the news and media get ahold of it. They just *love* a Gov. scandal!
6. People finally realize their Gov. has been lying to them about this (and many other things)
7. Gov can no longer hide the mistake 'hiding in plain sight'.
8. REAL change happens and MMJ and its benefits become widely accepted.
9. We wake up from this dream and realize that it will never happen if we cannot get someone to file the request first!
10. What are you waiting for? Ask your representative to file the request! DO IT TODAY!
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
The very SAME US Gov agency that calls out marijuana use as BAD, gets granted U.S Patent #6630507...in Oct 2003!
Just check out US Patent 6630507 titled &#8220;Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants&#8221; which is assigned to The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services.
Now if one agency of the government is denying that cannabis has "Any medical benefit"...and the Department of Health and Human Services gets issued a U.S. PATENT ON ITS MEDICAL BENEFITS...HOW on earth can the gov keep trying to push that same old lie to everyone?
Be honest now

How many people with medical marijuana cards
Actually need Medical marijuana Vs How many people know what to say to get their card from a select group of doctors so they can legally toke up
 
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