Hydro store has some for 18 bucks a bag. I figured if I could use ocean forest straight out of the bag, i would pay about the same as if I go with my eb stone soils/castings/perlite, bone meal,etc... So which route should I go? Wyte boi hooked me up with a nice mix of stuff from my nursery using eb stone products and soils, but all i ever hear is ocean forest, ocean forest, ocean forest. So 200 bucks at the nursery, or 10 bags of ocean forest? What would you go with? And if you say ocean forest, can i go from seed to harvest without xtra nutes if i pot up until they go in the ground? I plan on going 1 gallon, 3 gallon, to holes. thanks. Btw, I also heard ocean forest and animals dont mix too well. Something about the shrimp meal in it. Ever encountered problems using this stuff outdoors? Thanks again.