Ok, So I made Canna Butter for the first time...

So this is the deal. I made Canna Butter for the first time on June 29th. I believe I did everything correct. This is what I did:

Brought 2 cups of water to a boil, Then melted 1lb of unsalted butter in the water.
I added 40g of trim/small buds (Dried & cured) and then reduced the "broth" to a simmer. Low heat.
It would start to bubble after maybe 3-5mins and I would stir it pretty frequently.
I did this for 2 hours. I checked temperatures and they never went above 180-210 degrees F (I used a shitty analog thermometer)



Strained through cheesecloth and double strainers and tossed into the freezer. I waited several hours for everything to solidify and then I drained the nasty stuff. This is what I was left with:



There was twice as much as is pictured. I separated about half (2 sticks) for Peanut (Canna) Butter Cookies.

The next day I made myself 2 slices of cinnamon toast with the butter. It tasted fine but I did not feel any effects at all. I didn't smoke until 4 hours later. Nothing.

Oh well, I set the butter aside for cookies so I made the cookies anyway:


I found the recipe in these forums and cooked exactly as it said. The only thing I changed was the temperature. I cooked at 305 degrees F rather than 350 because I was afraid the thc might vape.

First of all, The cookies are fucking awesome. They taste fantastic. So much so that I ate about 8-10 of them the first day. I felt NOTHING. And I mean absolutely nothing.

I asked my wife, (who maybe smokes twice a month) to have a cookie to let me know about the potency. Two days go by and she doesn't have toast or the cookies. I've already eaten 20 of these things at this point. So I decide "Fuck it, my tolerance cannot possibly be this high, I must've fucked up" and I put the cookies out for anyone to eat.

Well a buddy of mine that doesn't smoke ate three of them and seemed fine. He went for a walk and about two hours later was "rocked". He kept talking about how good he felt, Rubbing his arms like he was on ecstasy and his eyes were bloodshot as all shit. He eventually went to sleep a little while later and slept 17 hours!

Obviously I bagged the cookies and hid them away again. I gave two more to my wife to bring to a co worker who smokes a lot. Well she just txt'd me and told me the cookies didn't do anything for her friend.

What the hell is going on? Do they work? Not work? My tolerance is high but it cannot be this high. Hell, I ate another 8 of them in one sitting last night.

Did I screw up? Do edibles simply not work for some people?

Anyway, Looking to make more butter today and then some brownies but if I did nothing wrong and it isn't going to affect me it seems like a waste. Maybe just make some hash?

TL;DR - Stuff happened, I typed a lot. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cookie recipe I used:

Peanut (Canna) Butter Cookie Recipe:
1 cup Canna Butter (2 Sticks)
1 cup Peanut Butter (Creamy or Crunchy)
1 cup White Sugar
1 cup Brown Sugar
2 Eggs
2 1/2 cups All-Purpose Flour
1 teaspoon Baking Powder
1/2 teaspoon Salt
1 1/2 teaspoons Baking Soda

Directions:
1. Cream together butter, peanut butter and sugars. Beat in eggs.
2. In a separate bowl, sift together flour, baking powder, baking soda, and salt. Stir into batter. Put batter in refrigerator for 1 hour.
3. Roll into 1 inch balls and put on baking sheets. Flatten each ball with a fork, making a criss-cross pattern.
4. Bake @ 305 degrees F for 15 minutes.
5. After 15 minutes keep an eye on cookies and remove from oven when cookies are done to how you like them.

Well I made some cannabutter from only one plant a friend gave me. Not sure if it was male, or female but it wasn't budding yet it was just all the trim. I only got about 6 teaspoons worth, and I basically just put it on the spoon and ate it. It tasted horrible on bread made me gag. I got pretty high off of it. I'm thinking maybe you need to ingest a good bit, but like you said you ingested what 8? I'm not sure. Maybe you're not giving yourself enough time for it to kick in. After I ate the butter it took a few hours to kick in, but lasted for a while.

Maybe you need to eat something before eating the cookies so those don't digest as fast. Especially since they're all sugar they dissolve pretty fast. Next time try brownies instead.

Well I finished off the last two peanut butter cookies today. I made 36 cookies and 7 were eaten by others. So I ate 29 myself. Lol. I didn't so much as feel a thing from them, I wish I knew why. In the end I just ended up eating them as if they were a normal snack.

Like I said, I woke up one morning and ate two slices of well buttered cinnamon toast. That was at like 8am and I didnt smoke untill early afternoon. 1 or 2 pm. I would think that would be more than enough time for me to feel something.

I've had edibles in the past and not once have they ever worked for me. Now that I'm growing I'm making my own under my own controlled conditions with the same results?

I'd like to know if some people flat out don't feel anything from edibles? Or is that just bullshit?
See any errors in how I made my canna butter? Or how I cooked the cookies?

Maybe I just need to only use bud instead of bud with trim?

Anyway...

I was going to make more butter today but decided not to until I got some answers. However, it's funny you should mention brownies because I used my last 2 sticks of butter from my last batch and made some today.



I cut them into (mostly) 2"x2" pieces. The recipe I used was solid and these brownies taste pretty damn good. I may have over cooked them? Theyr'e really "fudgy". heh. I have already eaten 4 pieces. I still don't feel anything. Oh well, At least they taste good.

Brownie Recipe:
2 cups White Sugar
1 cup Canna Butter (2 Sticks)
1/2 cup Cocoa Powder
1 teaspoon Vanilla Extract
4 eggs
1 cup All-Purpose Flour
1/2 teaspoon Baking Powder
1/2 teaspoon Salt
1/2 cup Walnuts (Halves or Crumbled)

Directions:
1.) Melt the butter and mix all ingredients in the order given.
2.) Bake @ 305 degrees F for 50 to 60 minutes in a 9 x 13 inch greased pan.

are you using like your own brownie recipe or aboxed one?

sunni said:

are you using like your own brownie recipe or aboxed one?

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Oh, I'm a sad panda. Did you read my post or are you trolling me?

No, This is not a boxed recipe.

Amaximus said:

Oh, I'm a sad panda. Did you read my post or are you trolling me?

No, This is not a boxed recipe.

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i dont troll the forum i mod i was a serious question

sunni said:

i dont troll the forum i mod i was a serious question

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That is why I posted the recipes I used. I kind of thought it answered itself. I've never seen a boxed recipe that had more ingredients than oil, eggs & the box mix itself. But I don't know every recipe nor have I seen every boxed brand so maybe it was my mistake.

In any case any help would be appreciated, if you have any to offer? I have gone over what I have done and been reading what I can and although I see different variations of what I have done, I don't see any mistakes?

The one thing I can say I do differently cause u and I make ours the same way only I throw a shot of 100 proof vodka in with the weed and butter then let it all come to a boil together(low boil) for about 30min or so strain and let cool. From what I understand the alcohol helps break down the oils in the plant so the bond to the fat in the butter easier. Other than that I'd say ur butter was just too weak 4 u, instead of making a whole pound u can start off just making like a stick at a time. That way u can kinda figure out how much weed needs to be in each batch so it works 4 u.

Maybe somethings up with the way you make cannabutter. Here's how I make it,
Slowly melt the butter in a pan. Grind your bud into a fine powder,sift out any stems. Gently stir the powdered cannabis into the melted butter. The mixture should become a remarkably dark emerald green. If using hash, warm it in a small pan or spoon over low heat (microwaving for 5-10 seconds on half-power also works) until it can be gently crumbled into the melted butter.Without allowing it to burn (this means no smoke breaks), leave the Cannabutter on low heat for up to a half-hour, stirring diligently. Once done, pour the Cannabutter through a fine strainer and into a large jug.

It could also be how you store it.
The best method for storing the Cannabutter is to place it in several glass jars and to then refrigerate. Once the Cannabutter has hardened, add a touch of water to the jars. This will help it to keep a bit longer.

dvs1038 said:

The one thing I can say I do differently cause u and I make ours the same way only I throw a shot of 100 proof vodka in with the weed and butter then let it all come to a boil together(low boil) for about 30min or so strain and let cool. From what I understand the alcohol helps break down the oils in the plant so the bond to the fat in the butter easier. Other than that I'd say ur butter was just too weak 4 u, instead of making a whole pound u can start off just making like a stick at a time. That way u can kinda figure out how much weed needs to be in each batch so it works 4 u.

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Other than the vodka I'd say we make the butter the same way. It might be a potency issue, I agree. I did use trim & bud, Next time I will only use bud and keep the trim for hash. I thought I had counteracted any potency issues by using so much though. I used like an ounce and a half to one pound of butter. Maybe it is just time to ramp it up?

MHA1990 said:

Maybe somethings up with the way you make cannabutter. Here's how I make it,
Slowly melt the butter in a pan. Grind your bud into a fine powder,sift out any stems. Gently stir the powdered cannabis into the melted butter. The mixture should become a remarkably dark emerald green. If using hash, warm it in a small pan or spoon over low heat (microwaving for 5-10 seconds on half-power also works) until it can be gently crumbled into the melted butter.Without allowing it to burn (this means no smoke breaks), leave the Cannabutter on low heat for up to a half-hour, stirring diligently. Once done, pour the Cannabutter through a fine strainer and into a large jug.

It could also be how you store it.
The best method for storing the Cannabutter is to place it in several glass jars and to then refrigerate. Once the Cannabutter has hardened, add a touch of water to the jars. This will help it to keep a bit longer.

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I'm not sure if it is the way I am making the butter. I detailed (maybe not enough) how I made my butter in the first post. Everything seems right?
As for storage, That isn't an issue at all yet. I used that canna butter the very next day and again like 6 days later. it's already gone. hehe.

Thanks for trying to work me through this guys, it is greatly appreciated.

Unless someone else chimes in before sometime next week (When I have the house to myself and I can cook again) I'm just gonna double the potency the next time around and use all bud, no trim because it seems from the feedback I'm getting that it's just too weak or my tolerance is just too high? If 56g of bud doesn't do it then there is no way it is a potency issue.

Process of elimination I guess. I'll figure it out. I'll keep ya's posted.

You did everything correctly, although you do NEED 1--% fat butter, unsalted. THC dissolves into fat, and that must of been the only mistake.

Amaximus said:

Brought 2 cups of water to a boil, Then melted 1lb of unsalted butter in the water.

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YoungChronic said:

You did everything correctly, although you do NEED 1--% fat butter, unsalted. THC dissolves into fat, and that must of been the only mistake.

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Yup, Used the correct unsalted butter as well. I made sure of it because I noticed everywhere I read it kept saying "unsalted" so I made sure.

Ok, Looks like I just have a sick tolerance or the butter wasn't strong enough.
I'll use 2 ounces of pure bud next time and check back with ya's then.
I will get to the bottom of this. heh.

PS - Thanks for confirming that I did everything correctly.

Why "unsalted" butter? I have made it with the salted and it knocked everyone on their ass. What does the salt do?

Unsalted butter is just more suited to be used in candies and what not more so than salted butter...It is like self rising and all purpose flower...you can get all purpose and use it everywhere you need to, you just have to add some salt and baking powder...You get unsalted butter so you can use it more places without having to amend recipes...salted is fine to use most of the time...doesn't mess up the butter or anything...but you want unsalted butter for most recipes...I don't use butter except to make canna butter, and it never works for me...ends up tasting terrible and not doing anything for me either... I would have to eat way more than I am willing to eat...Ice water hash is the way to go with trim and what not...That is fact...lol

cindysid said:

Why "unsalted" butter? I have made it with the salted and it knocked everyone on their ass. What does the salt do?

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There is no difference at all past the salt content obviously.

Most baking recipes call for unsalted butter because it's easier to control the flavor of your product that way and you can always add salt later if needed. Removing salt isn't as easy. I'm guessing that since most canna butter recipes are going to be used for sugary baked products that people are just using the same standbys as any other baker would. IE: unsalted butter.

I only emphasized that I used unsalted butter because almost all canna butter recipes state this and I was just relaying that I used what the recipes called for.

You could use salted butter. No difference.

well, make sure you hydrate yourself before you eat them first off... that should help, you also need to know that if you haven't had a meal thus far that day, then the cookies might go right through you without you even noticing it, but should still give you some effects. if you eat a large meal, it will take longer to digest the cookies and then you should absorb them better, but form ym experience as a herb smoker, i know that the more i eat, the less red i get, you dig it?

Amaximus said:

So this is the deal. I made Canna Butter for the first time on June 29th. I believe I did everything correct. This is what I did:

Brought 2 cups of water to a boil, Then melted 1lb of unsalted butter in the water.
I added 40g of trim/small buds (Dried & cured) and then reduced the "broth" to a simmer. Low heat.
It would start to bubble after maybe 3-5mins and I would stir it pretty frequently.
I did this for 2 hours. I checked temperatures and they never went above 180-210 degrees F (I used a shitty analog thermometer)

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you need a higher collection temp...I vape at 365* F.... then use my left over vape 1 cup to 2 sticks butter and extract over a 250-300 heat

higher temps ....release different effects of the thc

Here try this, it's faster and stompes me.

https://www.rollitup.org/cooking-cannabis/539476-coffee.html#post7690332

RebelMan said:

well, make sure you hydrate yourself before you eat them first off... that should help, you also need to know that if you haven't had a meal thus far that day, then the cookies might go right through you without you even noticing it, but should still give you some effects. if you eat a large meal, it will take longer to digest the cookies and then you should absorb them better, but form ym experience as a herb smoker, i know that the more i eat, the less red i get, you dig it?

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Tried fresh in the morning with an empty stomach. Tried after a meal as a dessert. Eaten as a snack. Eaten while drinking. Did it all. No effect.

colonuggs said:

you need a higher collection temp...I vape at 365* F.... then use my left over vape 1 cup to 2 sticks butter and extract over a 250-300 heat
higher temps ....release different effects of the thc

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How high can I go with the temperature w/o losing any potency, or the least amount? I know I vape at around 352* F. I also read a thread regarding at what temperature thc bonds to fat and the temps quoted were all over the place. 215* to 350*F. That's why I made my butter at such a low temp. If I can cook it at a higher temp I will. Thanks.

dirtsurfr said:

Here try this, it's faster and stompes me.

https://www.rollitup.org/cooking-cannabis/539476-coffee.html#post7690332

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I actually read that thread. It didn't sound like anything I was interested in but I may give it a try if all else fails. Thanks.