Omg first vapor and cannabis exp

Lion-O · Sep 1, 2016

Got a vapir extreme q today. Heated for a while by itself. Then put in my ww, did a few tokes. Hurts throat, had it at 195c. Ok, so took on and off tokes for about an hour. Started with trim, then to bud. Ended up a total of two pinches, or 1\4 full for the little glass bowl.

Anyhow, it didn't start affecting until 1.5 hrs, slow at that point, but then.... Bammmm! Didn't understand time, starting losing my mind, panicing. Then didn't understand reality itself, lost understanding of language itself. Wrote a note asking wife for help before I completely lost my mind.

Now 4 hours since started, 3 hours since noticing symptoms. Finally 'coming down', and can remember for longer than 30 seconds. As a pain management device it lasted for just under 3 hours.

What should I have done instead, having never taken cannabis, or anything? I didn't like the mind job at all. I think I ended up just taking it and forgetting I just took it. Then taking too much! Now if it hit up to the feeling of right now, i'd be fine with that.

mauricem00 · Sep 1, 2016

with edibles of vaporizing it can take a little while to feel the effect. I take 2 or 3 hits then wait for the effect to determine if I need more.after a while you will learn to gauge how much you need

texasjack · Sep 1, 2016

You vaped way too much

roseypeach · Sep 1, 2016

Lion-O said:
Got a vapir extreme q today. Heated for a while by itself. Then put in my ww, did a few tokes. Hurts throat, had it at 195c. Ok, so took on and off tokes for about an hour. Started with trim, then to bud. Ended up a total of two pinches, or 1\4 full for the little glass bowl.

Anyhow, it didn't start affecting until 1.5 hrs, slow at that point, but then.... Bammmm! Didn't understand time, starting losing my mind, panicing. Then didn't understand reality itself, lost understanding of language itself. Wrote a note asking wife for help before I completely lost my mind.

Now 4 hours since started, 3 hours since noticing symptoms. Finally 'coming down', and can remember for longer than 30 seconds. As a pain management device it lasted for just under 3 hours.

What should I have done instead, having never taken cannabis, or anything? I didn't like the mind job at all. I think I ended up just taking it and forgetting I just took it. Then taking too much! Now if it hit up to the feeling of right now, i'd be fine with that.

am I to understand you've never smoked weed before? and you've never had edibles? You should have gotten high off vaping immediately. Not sure why it took that long to hit you...? as far as edibles go, I had a similar experience (and I've been smoking for years) but that was because I ate a bit more than I was ready for.

I agree with @mauricem00 you should start with a lot less and build up to it. A ten minute session should be all you need to start.

SPLFreak808 · Sep 1, 2016

Lol, sounds fun

mauricem00 · Sep 1, 2016

roseypeach said:
am I to understand you've never smoked weed before? and you've never had edibles? You should have gotten high off vaping immediately. Not sure why it took that long to hit you...? as far as edibles go, I had a similar experience (and I've been smoking for years) but that was because I ate a bit more than I was ready for.

I agree with @mauricem00 you should start with a lot less and build up to it. A ten minute session should be all you need to start.

vape temp may have been too low causing resin to congeal before reaching lungs. I use a qwiso type e-juice and it takes 15-20 minutes to feel the effect but it's the easiest way for me to ingest cannabis. 45 years of smoking tobacco before I quit did not do my lungs any good so I can't smoke dry product. I had not smoke weed for 38 years before I became an MMJ patient and this stuff is a lot stronger than what we had back then

SPLFreak808 · Sep 1, 2016

Lion-O said:
Got a vapir extreme q today. Heated for a while by itself. Then put in my ww, did a few tokes. Hurts throat, had it at 195c. Ok, so took on and off tokes for about an hour. Started with trim, then to bud. Ended up a total of two pinches, or 1\4 full for the little glass bowl.

Anyhow, it didn't start affecting until 1.5 hrs, slow at that point, but then.... Bammmm! Didn't understand time, starting losing my mind, panicing. Then didn't understand reality itself, lost understanding of language itself. Wrote a note asking wife for help before I completely lost my mind.

Now 4 hours since started, 3 hours since noticing symptoms. Finally 'coming down', and can remember for longer than 30 seconds. As a pain management device it lasted for just under 3 hours.

What should I have done instead, having never taken cannabis, or anything? I didn't like the mind job at all. I think I ended up just taking it and forgetting I just took it. Then taking too much! Now if it hit up to the feeling of right now, i'd be fine with that.

Try a nice little pinner joint of some properly cured blue dream.. Should get you feeling pretty relaxed compared to vaping.

roseypeach · Sep 1, 2016

mauricem00 said:
vape temp may have been too low causing resin to congeal before reaching lungs. I use a qwiso type e-juice and it takes 15-20 minutes to feel the effect but it's the easiest way for me to ingest cannabis. 45 years of smoking tobacco before I quit did not do my lungs any good so I can't smoke dry product.

Absolutely, please, don't smoke it then. Edibles are a great way to medicate, I just started making them myself and I can promise you, the effects stick around for several hours depending on what your dosage is.

I don't know how large the chamber is in your vape pen that you have, try only filling it halfway and make sure your product is as finely ground as you can get it (this makes the medicine more available to vape). As long as there is some room for air flow you shouldn't have a problem with it congealing. Do you make your own ejuice?

mauricem00 · Sep 1, 2016

roseypeach said:
Absolutely, please, don't smoke it then. Edibles are a great way to medicate, I just started making them myself and I can promise you, the effects stick around for several hours depending on what your dosage is.

I don't know how large the chamber is in your vape pen that you have, try only filling it halfway and make sure your product is as finely ground as you can get it (this makes the medicine more available to vape). As long as there is some room for air flow you shouldn't have a problem with it congealing. Do you make your own ejuice?

yes I make my own e juice for my e-ciggs and for cannabis. but the temperature used in E-ciggs to vaporize PG/VG is much lower than the temperature needed to vaporize cannebanoids so they have to desolve in my system. just like with edibles

roseypeach · Sep 1, 2016

mauricem00 said:
yes I make my own e juice for my e-ciggs and for cannabis. but the temperature used in E-ciggs to vaporize PG/VG is much lower than the temperature needed to vaporize cannebanoids so they have to desolve in my system. just like with edibles

Mind sharing your method with me? I've made it before but it was ages ago and it was such a small amount that it lasted no time. I think I made it too strong as well, two hits and I was out like a light.

Lion-O · Sep 2, 2016

Thanks for all the comments. I believe I was getting forgetful as I was using it, which lead to taking too much. Next time I'll start more scientific and do one good puff, and walk away, then assess a couple hours later. I've always been real susceptible to medication effects more than most. My hydro co tabs are actually split in two when I take them (haven't had that for over a week, so no added affects from that yesterday ).

Still feel a little disconnected this morning, pains are pretty much back as well. The cannabis did help though.

Another thing I realized from this whole ordeal is that as a 1st timer, I grew way to many plants! You see, I tried several techniques, including cloning. Cloning was very successful, and I just got waaay too much medicine now. I'll weigh everything out later, but I basically have several jars of curing product. And if I only need such a small amount, I don't need to grow that often or that much. I have two large plants in flower now, about day 50 something, 4 more in flower that just started, and two more waiting for room in flower. It's a shame to waste, but I believe I'll be cutting down all but the two oldest in flower, and just destroying them. I am not in a legal state, and don't know anyone I could sell or even gift the others to. Well, it was a lot to care for anyhow. Found it took a lot of time and was difficult to manage with my health issues. I'll be turning everything off for a while once these are finished, most likely.

roseypeach · Sep 2, 2016

Lion-O said:
Thanks for all the comments. I believe I was getting forgetful as I was using it, which lead to taking too much. Next time I'll start more scientific and do one good puff, and walk away, then assess a couple hours later. I've always been real susceptible to medication effects more than most. My hydro co tabs are actually split in two when I take them (haven't had that for over a week, so no added affects from that yesterday ).

Still feel a little disconnected this morning, pains are pretty much back as well. The cannabis did help though.

Another thing I realized from this whole ordeal is that as a 1st timer, I grew way to many plants! You see, I tried several techniques, including cloning. Cloning was very successful, and I just got waaay too much medicine now. I'll weigh everything out later, but I basically have several jars of curing product. And if I only need such a small amount, I don't need to grow that often or that much. I have two large plants in flower now, about day 50 something, 4 more in flower that just started, and two more waiting for room in flower. It's a shame to waste, but I believe I'll be cutting down all but the two oldest in flower, and just destroying them. I am not in a legal state, and don't know anyone I could sell or even gift the others to. Well, it was a lot to care for anyhow. Found it took a lot of time and was difficult to manage with my health issues. I'll be turning everything off for a while once these are finished, most likely.

Aw man, don't throw it away! Just finish them up, dry it and store it in glass mason jars with lids, it'll keep for a year or two that way. If I lived close to you, I'd definitely help you out with those

we are just starting our next grow ourselves, we'll be running 6 this time around. You can always make tinctures and even oils/lotions with the herb for pain and sleeping. Cannabis is great for pain, especially the ones high in CBD. What kind are yours, did you order seeds?

mauricem00 · Sep 2, 2016

roseypeach said:
Mind sharing your method with me? I've made it before but it was ages ago and it was such a small amount that it lasted no time. I think I made it too strong as well, two hits and I was out like a light.

I chill 1/2 ounce of shake or bud and 91-99% pure ISO alcohol in the freezer overnight. I then add enough ISO to to just cover the cannabis and shake for 3 minutes.I use cheese cloth and a coffee filter to strain this mixture into a Pyrex baking dish. I add 1 ounce of PG and one ounce of VG to this canna induced alcohol.I then place it on an electric hot plate in my back yard away from building or anything else that could burn and set the hot plate to low temperature to boil off the alcohol. after 20-30 minutes the boiling slows down and I no longer smell the alcohol so I turn off the heat and let it cool. I just started using MMJ so my tolerance is low.but 3-5 hits of this gives me a good buzz and relieves pain and stiffness for 5-6 hours. (the buzz only last 1/2-3/4 hours after that I can go about my daily routine) using high quality bud or less PG/VG will make it stronger. hope this is useful to you

roseypeach · Sep 2, 2016

mauricem00 said:
I chill 1/2 ounce of shake or bud and 91-99% pure ISO alcohol in the freezer overnight. I then add enough ISO to to just cover the cannabis and shake for 3 minutes.I use cheese cloth and a coffee filter to strain this mixture into a Pyrex baking dish. I add 1 ounce of PG and one ounce of VG to this canna induced alcohol.I then place it on an electric hot plate in my back yard away from building or anything else that could burn and set the hot plate to low temperature to boil off the alcohol. after 20-30 minutes the boiling slows down and I no longer smell the alcohol so I turn off the heat and let it cool. I just started using MMJ so my tolerance is low.but 3-5 hits of this gives me a good buzz and relieves pain and stiffness for 5-6 hours. (the buzz only last 1/2-3/4 hours after that I can go about my daily routine) using high quality bud or less PG/VG will make it stronger. hope this is useful to you

very much yes! I hadn't thought of going the ISO route, I made some myself not too long ago. I'll definitely be trying this, thanks for sharing with me. I do have a question though..does the alcohol finish evaporating with the PG/VG mixed in to it? Seems like it wouldn't. I've heard a lot about using wax and iso for it but I would be worried that there is too much of the ISO alcohol left in the finished product. Can you taste the alcohol in it?

mauricem00 · Sep 2, 2016

Lion-O said:
Thanks for all the comments. I believe I was getting forgetful as I was using it, which lead to taking too much. Next time I'll start more scientific and do one good puff, and walk away, then assess a couple hours later. I've always been real susceptible to medication effects more than most. My hydro co tabs are actually split in two when I take them (haven't had that for over a week, so no added affects from that yesterday ).

Still feel a little disconnected this morning, pains are pretty much back as well. The cannabis did help though.

Another thing I realized from this whole ordeal is that as a 1st timer, I grew way to many plants! You see, I tried several techniques, including cloning. Cloning was very successful, and I just got waaay too much medicine now. I'll weigh everything out later, but I basically have several jars of curing product. And if I only need such a small amount, I don't need to grow that often or that much. I have two large plants in flower now, about day 50 something, 4 more in flower that just started, and two more waiting for room in flower. It's a shame to waste, but I believe I'll be cutting down all but the two oldest in flower, and just destroying them. I am not in a legal state, and don't know anyone I could sell or even gift the others to. Well, it was a lot to care for anyhow. Found it took a lot of time and was difficult to manage with my health issues. I'll be turning everything off for a while once these are finished, most likely.

I grow more than I need as well but there are a lot of cancer victims that have difficulty affording their medicine at the dispensary so I give my surplus to registered cancer patients.but I enjoy growing this stuff and in my state it is legal to give cannabis to an mmj patient as long as you receive no consideration in return. as mentioned earlier you can store it in airtight jars in a cool dark location and it will keep for a very long time

roseypeach · Sep 2, 2016

mauricem00 said:
I grow more than I need as well but there are a lot of cancer victims that have difficulty affording their medicine at the dispensary so I give my surplus to registered cancer patients.but I enjoy growing this stuff and in my state it is legal to give cannabis to an mmj patient as long as you receive no consideration in return. as mentioned earlier you can store it in airtight jars in a cool dark location and it will keep for a very long time

this world could sure use more people like you in it, I wish we were in a legal state, I want to be a caregiver more than anything but they keep blocking it. I doubt the Bible belt will ever go along with legal cannabis

mauricem00 · Sep 2, 2016

roseypeach said:
very much yes! I hadn't thought of going the ISO route, I made some myself not too long ago. I'll definitely be trying this, thanks for sharing with me. I do have a question though..does the alcohol finish evaporating with the PG/VG mixed in to it? Seems like it wouldn't. I've heard a lot about using wax and iso for it but I would be worried that there is too much of the ISO alcohol left in the finished product. Can you taste the alcohol in it?

alcohol has a lower boiling point than the PG/VG mix and a strong smell.the mix is done when I can no longer smell the alcohol and I do not taste it in the vape. the VG adds a little sweetness so all I taste is a sweet cannabis taste. very smooth and mild vape with no alcohol taste. you do lose a little PG/VG due to boil off but all the alcohol is boiled off and the temperature never gits high enough to vaporize the THC and CBDs your trying to extract

mauricem00 · Sep 2, 2016

roseypeach said:
this world could sure use more people like you in it, I wish we were in a legal state, I want to be a caregiver more than anything but they keep blocking it. I doubt the Bible belt will ever go along with legal cannabis

maybe if they actually read that bible instead of just beating people over the head with it they would be more compassionate and allow medical use of this very effective plant that their god gave us to relieve our suffering :fire:

Indacouch · Sep 2, 2016

mauricem00 said:
I grow more than I need as well but there are a lot of cancer victims that have difficulty affording their medicine at the dispensary so I give my surplus to registered cancer patients.but I enjoy growing this stuff and in my state it is legal to give cannabis to an mmj patient as long as you receive no consideration in return. as mentioned earlier you can store it in airtight jars in a cool dark location and it will keep for a very long time

Good on you ....I grow for no prophit whatsoever just for a disabled family member and cancer patients .....I enjoy gardening in general so when I see what I grow help a sick mom go for a walk with her little boy or make the seizures stop for a family member .....that's payment enough for me it's good medicine .....but good for you for helping people out that's what mmj should be all about getting sick people good meds that give them a quality of life back even if it's just far a few hours at a time

roseypeach · Sep 2, 2016

mauricem00 said:
alcohol has a lower boiling point than the PG/VG mix and a strong smell.the mix is done when I can no longer smell the alcohol and I do not taste it in the vape. the VG adds a little sweetness so all I taste is a sweet cannabis taste. very smooth and mild vape with no alcohol taste. you do lose a little PG/VG due to boil off but all the alcohol is boiled off and the temperature never gits high enough to vaporize the THC and CBDs your trying to extract

Hmmm, okay, thanks for clearing that up for me. I will definitely have to give it a try.

mauricem00 said:
maybe if they actually read that bible instead of just beating people over the head with it they would be more compassionate and allow medical use of this very effective plant that their god gave us to relieve our suffering

Right? I'm in total agreement with you on that note. Maybe someday we'll get medical mj, till then I guess we'll just have to take our chances...

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