Ontario unveils pot plan including online ordering, 150 stand-alone stores

gb123

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The Ontario government has announced a framework to manage the sale and use of marijuana, which includes an online ordering service and roughly 150 stand-alone stores.

The plan revealed Friday morning includes several key components:

  • Eighty stand-alone stores that will be open by July 1, 2019, with roughly 150 opened by 2020.
  • Online distribution that will be available across Ontario from July 2018 onward.
  • A proposed minimum age of 19 to use, purchase and possess recreational cannabis in Ontario.
Attorney General Yasir Naqvi, Finance Minister Charles Sousa and Health Minister Eric Hoskins unveiled the plan, which makes Ontario the first province or territory in Canada to publicly announce a comprehensive framework.

The plan means the LCBO will oversee the legal retailing of cannabis across the province through the new stand-alone stores and an online ordering service — meaning cannabis and alcohol will not be sold alongside each other.

It also stipulates the use of recreational cannabis will be prohibited in public places, cars and workplaces, and will only be allowed in private residences.

It will also be prohibited for anyone under the age of 19, giving police the power to confiscate small amounts of pot from young people.


The plan means that illegal pot shops in Ontario will be shut down, with the province pursuing a co-ordinated strategy with local police forces, the OPP and the federal government. (Travis Golby/CBC)

A main goal of the plan will be "stopping the sale of illegal, unregulated and unsafe cannabis," Naqvi said at Friday's news conference.

The plan means that illegal pot shops in Ontario will be shut down, with the province pursuing a co-ordinated strategy with local police forces, the OPP and the federal government.

"If you operate one of these facilities, consider yourself on notice," Naqvi said.

Plan for retail, online sales
When it comes to retail and distribution, the province fleshed out the strategy, which will include the storefronts and online ordering.

"Trained and knowledgeable staff will sell products in a safe and socially responsible manner to restrict access for minors and give consumers the information they need," reads a statement from the Ministry of Finance.

The cannabis stores will operate with the same retailing standards that apply to alcohol, as well as federal requirements for cannabis sales, according to the ministry. That means:

  • Ontario will not permit products to be visible to youth and will require a behind-the-counter retail environment similar to how cigarettes are sold.
  • There will be no self-service.
  • There will be mandatory training for retail staff.
As for online sales, the ministry said it will ensure "secure and safe" delivery across Ontario.

Similar to alcohol sales, online cannabis sales would require ID checks, signatures upon delivery and no packages left unattended at someone's door.

Ottawa sticking to July 2018 legalization deadline
Ontario's announcement follows legislation introduced in the House of Commons in April to legalize and regulate the sale and distribution of marijuana on or before July 1, 2018.

Many of the decisions about how the drug will be sold and taxed are being left to the provinces.

At a premiers meeting in Edmonton in July, they announced they would ask the federal government to postpone legalization if issues related to road safety, taxation, training for distributors and public education are not addressed.

The premiers said they would report back on progress by Nov. 1 and would seek such an extension if the federal timetable was deemed "unrealistic."

Shortly after the premiers' announcement, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government intends to stick to the July 2018 deadline.


High-profile cannabis supporter Jodie Emery, left, wife of fellow activist Marc Emery, right, is among those criticizing the plan, tweeting out that it's 'disgusting' that police and politicians who fought against legalization are now 'cashing in on legal pot.' (Lauren Pelley/CBC)

Province's plan facing early criticism


Already, people are criticizing aspects of Ontario's plan.

Mike Schreiner, leader of the Green Party of Ontario, feels it misses the mark.

"Having limited retail outlets across Ontario for legal marijuana will do virtually nothing to combat the huge illegal market," he said in a statement.

Several prominent cannabis activists are also slamming the plan, including Eric Nash and Wendy Little, two Canadian cannabis industry consultants who tweeted their concern about not enough cannabis stores being opened by the province.




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High-profile cannabis supporter Jodie Emery tweeted it's "disgusting" that police and politicians who fought against legalization are now "cashing in on legal pot."

She also stressed that she and husband Marc Emery still face serious charges in connection to their Cannabis Culture pot shops.




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Health experts are also questioning the province's direction.

"Considering the well-established network of LCBO stores across the province, and the well-established policies LCBO staff follow with respect to age of majority and Smart Serve, I don't understand why the government wants to build another stand-alone entity for cannabis sales to the public," said Scott Leatherdale, an associate professor in Waterloo's School of Public Health and Health Systems and the CIHR-PHAC Applied Public Health Research Chair in youth health.

Leatherdale said the plan will be expensive and could help to maintain criminal activity.

Camille Quenneville, CEO of the Canadian Mental Health Association, called early details about the province's announcement "promising," but expressed concern over how the government will use revenue generated from cannabis sales.

"We've recommended in a recent submission that all revenue should fund mental health and addictions services in Ontario because there is a correlation between cannabis consumption and mental health and addictions issues," she said in a statement.
 

gb123

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controlled by the LLCBO ...

ya sure :hump:

Gov sells everything under the sun..
they only bust people who buy shit they dont want you to is all
 

TheRealDman

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MMAR & ACMPR rule the BM as it is, and it will thrive even more once legalization occurs due to the limited 4 plant count. The BM isn't going anywhere as long as MMJ is around. BM prices may drop as flowers will be plentiful under Rec, but extracts and edibles will still be top $$ markets...all tax free.
 

The Hippy

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Of course still no apology for busting folks for the last 60 years. just a leap to the cash.
It's simply new cannabis laws run by the greediest dirty group of all. The hypocrites that make sure you line their pockets or be jailed. This is what grind me the most. The fact that they aren't sorry for busting you for using or having cannabis is disgusting to me. Then they go as far as saying that we will be your only supplier. Essentially saying " You better pay up or we'll send our private police forces to get you and your money ". " We don't care about your troubles or the fact we will jail you...we just want the money "
As far as I'm concerned if you buy LP weed or their store weed you are just as big a dirt bag as they are.

The hypocrisy of this greed rush is purely Disgusting and so obvious what the other side wants. They didn't even try to hide it did they?
 

GroErr

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Well, just like every other program/policy that bitch Wynne has implemented since she was elected, disappointing, but not unexpected from this piece of shit.

Many details left out, but it's clear that they want control of the strings and $$$, even warned dispensaries that they will be busted/shut down.

So 150 provincial government controlled retail outlets to serve 6+ millon people, spread out over a province that covers 1.076 million kilometres. That makes perfect sense to me. Should definitely kill the BM - NOT.

What a fucking joke... and it will only get better. With Wynne in place, don't count on growing any plants, unless maybe you buy the seeds, soil, pots, water from Wynne and pay her taxes on whatever you harvest. #$%!
 

TheRealDman

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There's approx 60 dispensaries in the GTA alone. If you count online sales based out of the 6ix....more like 100+. BM ain't going anywhere, no matter what the threats. As long as the medical program is exists, so will the BM. The courts won't allow the med end to go away, so Wynne can fuck off.
 

CalyxCrusher

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There will be busts, they'll reopen. Rinse and repeat. As long as theres unjust laws people will always fight them with civil disobedience until they change. Once they get the hint that dispensaries will just keep opening, they'll be forced to readress distribution or continue to waste tax payers money
 

TheRealDman

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There will be busts, they'll reopen. Rinse and repeat. As long as theres unjust laws people will always fight them with civil disobedience until they change. Once they get the hint that dispensaries will just keep opening, they'll be forced to readress distribution or continue to waste tax payers money
Yep, and with no storage limits...just about anyone can become a dispensary soon.
Obviously, only donated MJ products of course. ;)
 

gb123

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lol.

can you hear the screams of NO CONTROL? BWAHAHAHAHA
as we said..
its all over for the ones who think they can :cool:
 

legalcanada

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wtf is with those tweets... 1515 replies 4848 retweets 101101 likes? and 99 replies, 7676 retweets, 136136 likes?? i'm calling bullshit on those digits
 

itsmehigh

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Like you guys care but.......

If I understand this correctly .

This is a big F you to the LP's in Ontario too. Ontario gov. Being the only "legal" source, won't allow LP's to directly sell rec to public. Instead the control board will buy at wholesale and mark up the goods. Essentially not allowing LP's to sell retail, reducing their profit in 1/2..

Itsme.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Not surprising from Ontario, they're still in the dark ages when it comes to alcohol sales. This will face immediate backlash and court challenges. Not only will the LP's be lobbying for the right to operate retail outlets, other entrepreneurs have a good case to challenge an unfair government monopoly.
 

The Hippy

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Like you guys care but.......

If I understand this correctly .

This is a big F you to the LP's in Ontario too. Ontario gov. Being the only "legal" source, won't allow LP's to directly sell rec to public. Instead the control board will buy at wholesale and mark up the goods. Essentially not allowing LP's to sell retail, reducing their profit in 1/2..

Itsme.
That's right @itsmehigh . It's one set of greed bags versus another. set of greed bags....making room for all my BM buddies to crush em. This has been my message since day one....greed running after greed. And I love watching them try to over greed the next guy.
Not to mention look who they are trying to fuck over at the same time.....The culture itself that under threat of law developed a whole culture and market place while being chased like dogs. Ya..... that group is NOT gonna be running to dykies WeedCBO stores. Especially after being told there is no room for you, the very developers of weed basically....it's all ours hahahaha dykie cries a-loud in a villains tone and song.
They all deserve to burn...and burn they will.
BOYCOTT BOYCOTT.....
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Small Business Slams Ontario’s Weed ‘Monopoly,’ But Growers Back Province's Plan
"Shutting out the private sector will only allow the illicit trade to flourish."

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Tweed employee Ryan Harris works inside the flowering room at Tweed Inc. in Smith Falls, Ontario, on December 5, 2016. The facility is owned by Canopy Growth, Canada's largest medical marijuana producer.
Ontario's plan to sell legalized marijuana in provincially-controlled retail outlets has left some private business owners resentful of being shut out of what's expected to be a burgeoning new retail business.


But medical marijuana growers are coming out in favour of the policy — no surprise, given that they will be the suppliers to Ontario's weed outlets under the plan announced Friday by Premier Kathleen Wynne's government.


"We are deeply disappointed that the Ontario government has decided to implement a public-sector monopoly for cannabis sales in the province," said the Canadian Federation of Independent Business (CFIB), in a statement emailed to media.


"One of the government's stated goals in cannabis legalization is to eliminate the underground economy, but shutting out the private sector will only allow the illicit trade to flourish."

The federal government announced marijuana legalization legislation this past spring, but left it to the provinces to decide how sales and distribution will be regulated.


Ontario's plan is to open as many as 150 marijuana retail outlets across the province by 2020. The stores would be run by the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, though they would be separate from the LCBO's alcohol outlets.

The LCBO will also sell marijuana online through a government-run website.

More about Canada's marijuana legalization:


That move was praised by Greg Engel, CEO of OrganiGram Holdings, a publicly-traded medical marijuana producer.

"There is a lot of experience at the LCBO," he told HuffPost Canada in an interview.

He also supports the limited number of locations the province intends to start with, because "supply will be a challenge at the beginning."

Analysts have predicted that the legal marijuana market could suffer shortages due to a lack of capacity when recreational marijuana is expected to become legal on July 1, 2018.

Canopy Growth, which bills itself as the world's largest producer of medical marijuana, is doing something about the possible shortage. It announced Friday that its Niagara Region facility— already the world's largest legal grow-op, according to Canopy— will quadruple in size to 1 million square feet.



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Employees look over medical marijuana buds at Tweed Inc. in Smith Falls, Ont., on Dec. 5, 2016. The facility is owned by Canopy Growth, Canada's largest medical marijuana company.
Company president Mark Zekulin says the expansion is driven by the new recreational marijuana market that will appear next year.

"It means we are moving even faster" to expand facilities, he told HuffPost Canada, saying he's "very supportive" of Ontario's plan.

Both Engel and Zekulin suggested they would be open to other models of selling marijuana, if that's what other provinces choose to do, including private retailing.

"A private distribution model could work just as well or even better in some circumstances," Zekulin said.

Engel suggested OrganiGram would be open to operating as a retailer, either independently or in a consortium with other growers, if the opportunity were to arise.
 
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