Optic 6 vs perfect sun 6 vs geyapex luma p6

Eternalhaze13

Eternalhaze13

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I'm looking to buy new led unit. Just bought lightess 1500w (340w) returned one of the first 2. And complained about the second, so company send me a 1200(250w) free of charge. It was scratched so I got a three unit at 1000(190w)
Worked great for veg but flower is lacking. Come to find out there is no deep red in any unit. Fml so here I am with a poorly budding plant with over 700w. Help!!!!
Was reading into the million types of leds and picked the optic 6 for my 4x4 tent. After doing more research, and my head hurts from all this information, I find out people saying that the optic 6 and the perfect sun 6 are from the Chinese manufacturer geyapex with American made parts. Cree cobs , meanwell drivers...... that has the option to customize your units. Can I get some opinions and/or directions toward lights that work and not hyped up products??
I'm used to hps bulbs trying the new thing! Help??!!
 
Shadrock15

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It apears they are mostly chinese assembly but not all chinese parts. I too looked at perfect sun but personaly i think that dude I forget hos name is full of it. Ps has every red flag going no real imfo on diodes no real way to contact I have tried and all I got was a robo text Im looking at optics 2 myself. And if your running 700w from wall in 4x4 somethin else is wrong bro. Also whenever I see such a disparity between potential watts like 1000w and it only pulls 300 somethin aint right
 
Shadrock15

Shadrock15

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im my research it seems that if your at about 55-60 percent diff between stated watts and actual draw then the diodes are running pretty effiently and have good life span but even 300 from wall yor a little underpwered as far as watts per sq ft but what strain you workin with i think leds are the shiz no heat no replacement bulbs i have had a mars hydro 96 for 3 years and it has been excellent its dimming i bit now but 163 bucks 3 years straight runnin and i pull decent weight as im still a bit noobish. Im finding that spectrum should not be just the blue red plants need green and yellow thats why i believe cree cons are so popular. Course i could be totaly off base but im glad to have someone to talk to and learn about the led lights with ppl sorta get prima dona ish I for one cant afford a 1000 dollar light so im lookin for bang for buck check out the optics they seem reputable so far
 
Eternalhaze13

Eternalhaze13

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Shadrock15 said:
It apears they are mostly chinese assembly but not all chinese parts. I too looked at perfect sun but personaly i think that dude I forget hos name is full of it. Ps has every red flag going no real imfo on diodes no real way to contact I have tried and all I got was a robo text Im looking at optics 2 myself. And if your running 700w from wall in 4x4 somethin else is wrong bro. Also whenever I see such a disparity between potential watts like 1000w and it only pulls 300 somethin aint right
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I figured the lights aren't any good.
I returned the one light and got a refund but got to keep the two for free. Bought a all deep red bulb 80w(25w)
Seems to be doing better.
I've decided on the optic 6 and going to grab the 4x2 setup for second tent
Should go better this time
I'm working with Hawaiian snow crossed with widow
Six weeks into flower
Nothing to brag about
 
Eternalhaze13

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CobKits said:
optic 6 use ancient cheap cree cxb 2540s and runs them hard. not an efficient unit
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I realize this but the optic 8 is double the price and it has CXB3590 cobs
So this option isn't realistic for me. Well it is but don't want to pay 1400 and get ripped off
 
Humple

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Eternalhaze13 said:
What options are there??
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Check out Timber Grow Lights or Horticulture Lighting Group (HLG), for starters. Best deal would be DIY; if you're not confident to build your own, the HLG-600H Quantum Board kit (by HLG and sold through growerslights.com) can be purchased pre-assembled, and will give you more power, at higher efficiency, for less money.
 
Eternalhaze13

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Humple said:
Check out Timber Grow Lights or Horticulture Lighting Group (HLG), for starters. Best deal would be DIY; if you're not confident to build your own, the HLG-600H Quantum Board kit (by HLG and sold through growerslights.com) can be purchased pre-assembled, and will give you more power, at higher efficiency, for less money.
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I'll take a look thanks
 
Humple

Humple

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Eternalhaze13 said:
I was thinking the same thing!!
But that might void the 5 year warranty but I'm looking into it
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But why spend that kind of money just to spend more on better COBs when you can get something better in the first place? I'll tell you the same thing someone told me when I first started thinking of getting into LED, and wanted to buy a cheapo Amazon light to modify: don't waste your time or money. Buy something that meets your needs now, or save up until you can.
 
Eternalhaze13

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Humple said:
But why spend that kind of money just to spend more on better COBs when you can get something better in the first place? I'll tell you the same thing someone told me when I first started thinking of getting into LED, and wanted to buy a cheapo Amazon light to modify: don't waste your time or money. Buy something that meets your needs now, or save up until you can.
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I get that. I'm just that person that checks out all options. Never said a would go that route.
I'm even looking into seeing if they will change the cobs, since they have them in the optic 1 and 8.
But I am going to change the bulbs in my cheap Chinese lights, but on the basis that they were free......
 
CikaBika

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Eternalhaze13 said:
I was thinking the same thing!!
But that might void the 5 year warranty but I'm looking into it
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I saw shitload of that lights on alibaba and aliexpress...And yrs how the f they can know if you touch something?? And I must say those older cree grows weed to.. I had diy fixture with that old cobs..It like car from 80s, he will still drive you from point a to b..
 
Eternalhaze13

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So I looked at the geyapex luma p9 on Alibaba and there is so many options
80, 90, 97 cri
Cree, citizen cobs
3500k or 3000k fir flower
4000k or 5000k for veg
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What's the best spectrum for grow lights???
 
CobKits

CobKits

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Eternalhaze13 said:
I realize this but the optic 8 is double the price and it has CXB3590 cobs
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those are also somewhat dated and not the usual first choice due to cost

Eternalhaze13 said:
What's the best spectrum for grow lights???
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depends what youre growing. there are literally threads upon threads about it

most people opt for 3000-3500k and 80 or 90 CRI for general use
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Eternalhaze13 said:
So I looked at the geyapex luma p9 on Alibaba and there is so many options
80, 90, 97 cri
Cree, citizen cobs
3500k or 3000k fir flower
4000k or 5000k for veg
..................
What's the best spectrum for grow lights???
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I'm running a geyapex with gen 6 citizen 1212 4000k 97 cri at 200 watts for 4 cobs.

Works great for veg and bloom. A diy kit would be much cheaper but the geyapex is good to go.
 
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