Organic Flushing

pabber73

pabber73

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Quick question regarding pre-harvest flushing....

If I am using organic nutes (Botanicare) should I still stop using them as I approach harvest, or is it ok to continue to feed with organics right up to harvest? In the past I have stopped my nutes and continued with the molasses right up to harvest.

The reason is for a Super Skunk plant my lower braches are ready to get pulled, but my tops still need at least a few weeks more.....Do I cut the nutes now and finish up the tops without feeding?

Any suggestions appreciated.

Thx....
 
nathenking

nathenking

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I think if you finsish out with just plain water you should be fine... The plant should have enough stored energy to get it through..
 
to serve man

to serve man

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I usually do a pre-harvest flush 2 weeks before harvest with just straight water, twice the volume of the container. The rest of the waterings I do with molasses to give the plant sugars and carbs to keep plumping resin. 4 days before harvest I give another flush with twice the volume and that is their final watering. Don't water 3-4 days before harvest.
 
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canefan

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If it is organic grow start to finish you don't need to flush, the soil is natural, no chems to flush. All flushing is going to do is flush the goodies out of the soil. You just spent all this time getting the soil ready, the plant has stored its protiens, sugars already in a simple clean form, you can use this soil again just mix with new parts and you already have your goodies active in the soil. Just my opinion and I am sure that many will disagree with this, but this is all part of a true organic lifestyle with your plants and the soil.
 
Ohsogreen

Ohsogreen

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I agree with Canefan...... no need to directly flush the soil. Just use plain water the last week or two, to keep your plant hydrated and let the plant use up what's in the soil / stored in the plant.
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A sure sign this is happening, your older fan leaves will yellow and drop or pull off easily. Then you know, some smooth tasting smoke lies ahead.
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Keep it Real...Organic... & don't fear the yellowing fan leaves.......
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Tyrannabudz

Tyrannabudz

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If you flower only w/ an HPS bulb as I do, then the leaves will slowly turn yellow due to the absence of the blue color spectrum which is essential for veg. growth.:joint::mrgreen:
 
kuntjoose

kuntjoose

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I would just like to point out that organic or not the whole idea behind "FLUSHING" is to starve the plant forcing it to use all the food it has stored up leaving behind complex carbohydrates "sugars". This has multiple effects on the plant. 1. U get to taste the buds not the dirt. 2. Starving the plant makes it pump into overdrive the last couple weeks as a survival tactic. layering on the calyxes and frost.
1 simple method that i use is to "flush" the pots with enough water that the run off will be clear 2 weeks b4 approx harvest. Then i feed only water with a little molasses or natural pure cane sugar crystals(other complex sugars work just as good).
My last watering i "flush" 1 more time till i get clear run off then harvest when its about redy for water again. Also using a flushing agent like clearex in the first flush works beutifully

This method can not be beat.
 
necrobot

necrobot

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I use clearex on my first gallon flush as well. Then the rest is just straight water, then the last gallon I put some blackstrap molasses in to give it complex sugars. The last flushes I give 3 days before harvest with just straight water.
 
Trazzer

Trazzer

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Actually in organics it is better to not flush but just reduce your basenutes to 1/4th strength and the molasses and then just water for the very last watering. This is do to Osmosis which is the defusion of a solute(nutes) threw a permeable membraine(roots) into the solution(water), which means if you put water in your pot that has less nutes then the plant does it will even out the amount and draw it out of the plant. Since organic nutes are not chemicals and mostly plant materials there is no need to flush this, and flushing is just causeing a sudden change in ppm level in the plant, this is shocking. so if you reduce it to 1/4 a week before harvest it will make the plant happier and the plant will use those nutes up untill harvest. water last with water to draw out anything that is unused so u can harvest.

really ur plant will always have nuitrience present, if your are doing organics right there is NPK as well as many micro nutes in your soil and everytime you water(even with straght water) it is drawing out all that organic matter:blsmoke:
 
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DiZzYNaTiOn

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Trazzer said:
Actually in organics it is better to not flush but just reduce your basenutes to 1/4th strength and the molasses and then just water for the very last watering. This is do to Osmosis which is the defusion of a solute(nutes) threw a permeable membraine(roots) into the solution(water), which means if you put water in your pot that has less nutes then the plant does it will even out the amount and draw it out of the plant. Since organic nutes are not chemicals and mostly plant materials there is no need to flush this, and flushing is just causeing a sudden change in ppm level in the plant, this is shocking. so if you reduce it to 1/4 a week before harvest it will make the plant happier and the plant will use those nutes up untill harvest. water last with water to draw out anything that is unused so u can harvest.

really ur plant will always have nuitrience present, if your are doing organics right there is NPK as well as many micro nutes in your soil and everytime you water(even with straght water) it is drawing out all that organic matter:blsmoke:
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Almost there, but this plant is meant for smoking, you need to flush out that phosphorus.
 
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Surfr

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Trazzer said:
Actually in organics it is better to not flush but just reduce your basenutes to 1/4th strength and the molasses and then just water for the very last watering. This is do to Osmosis which is the defusion of a solute(nutes) threw a permeable membraine(roots) into the solution(water), which means if you put water in your pot that has less nutes then the plant does it will even out the amount and draw it out of the plant. Since organic nutes are not chemicals and mostly plant materials there is no need to flush this, and flushing is just causeing a sudden change in ppm level in the plant, this is shocking. so if you reduce it to 1/4 a week before harvest it will make the plant happier and the plant will use those nutes up untill harvest. water last with water to draw out anything that is unused so u can harvest.

really ur plant will always have nuitrience present, if your are doing organics right there is NPK as well as many micro nutes in your soil and everytime you water(even with straght water) it is drawing out all that organic matter:blsmoke:
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Dude, no disrespect, but you are flat out wrong. The plant has so much stored up energy in the soil and actual plant itself. It NEEDS to be flushed the last 2 weeks, at least a week.
 
georgi345

georgi345

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Ohsogreen said:
I agree with Canefan...... no need to directly flush the soil. Just use plain water the last week or two, to keep your plant hydrated and let the plant use up what's in the soil / stored in the plant.
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A sure sign this is happening, your older fan leaves will yellow and drop or pull off easily. Then you know, some smooth tasting smoke lies ahead.
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Keep it Real...Organic... & don't fear the yellowing fan leaves.......
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'call me obsequious, but i'll stick with ohsogreen's wisdom-from-experience on this one...

cheers
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smppro

smppro

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Tyrannabudz said:
If you flower only w/ an HPS bulb as I do, then the leaves will slowly turn yellow due to the absence of the blue color spectrum which is essential for veg. growth.:joint::mrgreen:
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:mrgreen: Sorry thats not true, blue spectrum doesnt determine the color, green spectrum does, leaves turn yellow do to lack of nitrogen.


Second you DO NOT HAVE TO FLUSH ORGANICS. bongsmilie
 
smppro

smppro

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Surfr said:
Dude, no disrespect, but you are flat out wrong. The plant has so much stored up energy in the soil and actual plant itself. It NEEDS to be flushed the last 2 weeks, at least a week.
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Why does it have stored up energy, organics supplies the plant with what it needs, no extra.
 
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DiZzYNaTiOn

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smppro said:
:mrgreen: Sorry thats not true, blue spectrum doesnt determine the color, green spectrum does, leaves turn yellow do to lack of nitrogen.


Second you DO NOT HAVE TO FLUSH ORGANICS. bongsmilie
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Dont think people are reading the post, of corse you dont have to flush, but flushing a soiled plant AkA giving it pure water will help the smoke.

Ok fine here try this,

Cutt off two branches

Have two cups of water

in one put pure water

in other put anything of your choosing, from fert. to whatever.

let sit for a few days under floure. or window.

take out branches, dry, and smoke,

done.

but really try it.

You can even put food coloring if you wish and your stem and leaves will turn what ever color you like.kiss-ass
 
smppro

smppro

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Not if you do it properly, thats the main problem, people dont properly feed their plants, just because 1 person needs to flush their plants doesnt mean other people do.
 
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