Organic Nutes and Auto-flower plants

Hey there,
I'm growing three KC45 (Russian Ruderalis + Brazilian Sativa strain) plants with one CH9 Jack 33 (60% sativa 40% indica strain) plant.
To give you an idea of what I'm working with:
-I am currently growing under a 1000w HPS (time schedule of 18 hours on, 6 off)
-I water every other day and give each plant half a gallon of distilled water (with a tablespoon of Brer Rabbit molasses + 4 teaspoons of General Organics BioThrive plant food bloom 2-4-4 per gallon)
-the medium is Fox Farm Ocean Forest in 5 gallon Smart pots.
- I've bent all my plants over with ipod cables ha ha, to give optimal growth to the undersides and to conserve vertical space (growing in my bedroom closet much to my gf's chagrin :P )
-I'm just now up to 8 weeks of growth and I switched over from the MH 1000w to the HPS 1000w (after 4 weeks) once the plants showed their sex (had to kill 2 males :( ) so I'm about 4 weeks in to what looks like flowering.

My questions:
1. Can you overfeed with organic nutes? (I've been heavy feeding them (4 teaspoons per gallon) almost every watering since I switched to the bloom nutes.)
2. How much water should I be giving these plants and what is an ideal watering schedule for 5 gallon pots?
3. I've encountered dried leaves, yellowing leaves with brown spots and leaves toward the top curling inwards a bit.. am I doing something wrong?
4. I've been pinching off the dying leaves.. is this a bad idea?
5. How long can I expect till harvest for this strain now that I'm at the 8 week mark?
6. I can't explain this.. but the CH9 Jack 33 is showing traits of flowering (asymetrical branch growing etc.) but I don't think it's an auto-flower plant.. is this normal?
7. Maybe you can see this on the close up: the CH9 is really spindly and sending out long branches.. is that the strain or the grow conditions?
8. Any advice at all concerning my setup, schedules etc?

Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate it!!







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FreeRangeZombie

Active Member
Foxfarm already has fertilzer in it if you start adding more nutes right off that bat then u are over doing it and this will lead to problems. Also mollassis should really only be used during flower unless your feeding bennies/mycos but even then you should only use a very very small amount.
 
Hey there FreeRangeZombie, thanks for the reply and for the advice. I'm in the flowering stage now on my autos (which is when I started giving the molasses). I'm adding a tblspoon per gallon and the plants seem ok with it.. maybe I'll just go with fresh water from now until harvest though. I'm sure they have plenty of nutes at this point and you're right, I don't want to overdo it with the sugar!
 
USE PLAIN WATER FROM HERE ON but dont over do it. People say you cant flush soil but the best way to "flush" it is use plain distilled water or RO water pHed out with only whatever you use for that. KEEP THE WATER AS PURE AS POSSIBLE and what you do is use 15 gallons of water on your normal watering schedule. Mine took about 1 month after adding my molasses. You get the pure organic taste and flavor of your bud without harming your root system from over watering. I learned that lil trick on my last grow (link on my signature). Well worth the effort you can almost taste exactly what its going to taste like dry before cure!
 

Born420

New Member
I have read several posts of the KC 45 giving higher yields indoors on the 12/12. One post said he went from a 1/2 to 2 zips by changing to 12/12 from 18/6. After reading all the stuff these KCs, which I started a few indoor ones yesterday, seem to have a life cycle based on light hours. Sounds suspect but who knows. These things are 7 feet tall outside and in the shade. Looks like a Christmas tree.

Yet if you come inside on the 20/4 cycle these finish quick and smaller. I have been having a bad time with autos lately. Lost 2 cheese and 2 il Diavola to me being retarded. One had vinegar spilled on it. The other three where on a table while I was putting them out and it collapsed. Did all I could. Know its a waiting game and they are stunted to hell, but might survive to make a couple g's
 

scunkworm

Active Member
Hey guys hope you don't mind in coming in here, now from what I've read about autos is that they all have low nute requirements, only reson I'm up on this info at the moment is coz I'm growing 3 auto fem purple cheese plants which are also in flowering. I don't know for sure if all autos need only small amounts of food coz they don't get to big but one of my plants got the top cut of by accident, (i know people do that as its called super crooping just like pinching the stam below a branch and it makes the plant go really bushy) and now on mine there two tops growing and growing tall aswell. As with watering I water mine over the course of afew hrs, by giving the soil little amounts of water then ill repeat it half hr later and so on, so I know that the soils soaking all the water right in to it and having time before the next bit of water gets there, biggest thing I've noticed doing this is that watering takes alot more then before I startted watering like this, seems to take twice as much but its better i think. As with your lighting I always thought 12/12 for flowering but after reading up on the genetics of my autos they have been genetically set for 18/6 throughout its growing and really doesn't need 12/12 like normal plants do.
 
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