Organic nutes?

chronicj69

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hey i have a auto-flowering White Russian and it just started showing some buds, andi was wondering if these nutes will go good with the soil . its called ROOTS ORGANICS hpk 0-5-4 by Aurora Inovations says its 100% Organic and is a bloom booster derived from Bat guano and Langbeinite.


i am using Fox Farms Ocean Forest brand soil.
 

chronicj69

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the site for the hpk is aurorainovations.com its a company from eugene,OR . it says 1 tablespoon per gallon should i use that or less for the first feed
 

FollyFool

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Their soil is some great stuff too.I used half strenth on nutes the first 2-3 feedings.Then let them roll.I only feed every 3-4th watering.Seems to work fine.
 

chronicj69

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thanks man for posting ur the only one who did i was just wondering if they would go good together cause the soil is pretty hot to start with.
 

catincombs

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You can't go wrong with higher p bat guano in bloom. Like the old man says, " Start low, build as you go, learn not to burn " or something like that.
 

playa869

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hey i have a auto-flowering White Russian and it just started showing some buds, andi was wondering if these nutes will go good with the soil . its called ROOTS ORGANICS hpk 0-5-4 by Aurora Inovations says its 100% Organic and is a bloom booster derived from Bat guano and Langbeinite.


i am using Fox Farms Ocean Forest brand soil.

show some pics dawgy lol
 

haze2

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I just started using some HP2 from roots organics and I used 1/2 the dosage for the first feeding and then probably full dose 2nd
 

dirt clean

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with my organics it does not seem I can overfeed. I use bio bizz base with guanos and fish ADDED in and no problems. I have three feeds so far only a month in veg. No burns. The plants just seem to eat it if they want it. If they dont no prob.

I did an experiment. I water fed one. I water fed another. I light fed another, and I heavy fed one. The water fed is doing the best, then the heavy feed, then the other water feed, then light feed. Go figure. They eat hwat they need when it is organic.

Those were lr2s. My widow cindy is starving all the time. I feed the next 6 hours she beasts out. She is prob male. The others green off and grow too, but other plants are hungry at different levels/

from what I have read about organics they say start low in eveg and work up and byt he time you are in flower only full str feeds. But those are all organics, I would strat low with inorganic P feeds and build up. Those rapid salts just inject right in.
 

allybam

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start with rootjuice biobizz for first 3 days of sproutin n planten in soil then go with the lowest feeds of the rest of the range for 2 weeks after that then increase till 3 ml per litre while the whole time in veg keep adding the rootjuice then 3rd n 4th weeks increase to 1 ml less than the max then in flowering stick with 3ml per litre for first 2 weeks veg then again increase to 4 ml per litre of the range then try and lower the feeds with the highest nitrogen feed and increase
potash/Potassium(K) feeds to 1ml below the max and never feed the max amounts always 1 ml less than max intill the end of ur grow and remember the last 2 weeks ur buds swell big time then cut when ready

THE FINE DETAIL'S OF NUTRIENTS

Plant foods have 3 main ingredients that will be the mainstay of the garden, Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium. These 3 ingredients are usually listed on the front label of the plant food in the order of N-P-K.
N=Nitrogen P=Phosphorus K=Potassium

Secondary nutrients are Calcium, Sulphur and Magnesium. In trace quantities, boron, copper, molybenum, zink, iron, and manganese.
"Pumping" is when you use more waterings to make the plants grow faster. This is dangerous if you proceed in a reckless manner, due to potential over-watering problems. You must go slowly and watch the plants daily at first to be sure your not over-watering the plants. Use weaker plant food mixtures than normal, maybe 25%, and be sure your leaching once a month and running straight water through the plants at least every other time you water. This applies mainly to plants grown in soil mediums.
If your plants look REALLY green, withhold food for a while to be sure they are not being over-fed.
Nutrient deficiencies in modern gardens are really rare. What most people see as a ‘Nutrient Deficiency’ is, 9 times out of 10, a pH problem. A pH that is too high or too low ‘locks out’ your plants ability to uptake nutrients. Since the plant can not uptake those nutrients they appear to be deficient. When in fact, there are plenty of nutrients in the solution/soil but, due to pH Lock-out, they are unavailable to the plant. The correct pH for marijuana is 6.3 - 6.8 in soil and 5.5 - 6.1 in a hydroponic system.
In the last few weeks of flowering a yellowing of the leaves is completely normal as the plant uses up all stored nutrients low lower leaves on indoor plants go yellow due to lack of light reaching them.


Depending on stage of growth, different nutrients are needed at different times.
Nitrogen(N) is necessary for healthy leaf growth, phosphates/Phosphorus(P) for healthy roots and stems and potash/Potassium(K) for producing flowers.
This is just an example of the different nutrients at the different stage's!
KEY=5 highest 1 lowest
Seedling (N)Nitrogen-4-(P)Phosphorus-5-(K)Potassium-2
Vegetative(N)Nitrogen-5-(P)Phosphorus-4-(K)Potassium-3
Flowering (N)Nitrogen-3-(P)Phosphorus-4-(K)Potassium-5

Seeding
For rooting and germination and seedlings, levels of high Phosphorus nutrients with less Nitrogen/Potassium are needed to stimulate high root growth this also effects the end yield of the plant, I recomend 10 days at this stage with these main nutriants before moving to vegetative stage nutrient feeding.

Vegetative
Vegetative growth needs lots of Nitrogen as this stimulates there to be larger leaf growth during this stage and maintain a high Phosphorus feed as it will continue strong root growth and stem and barnch's will become stronger and slightly increase the total yeild in flowering as the plant will sense it can support larger buds.

Flowering
When the plants start flowering, change to a formula higher in phosphate and potash. Try lowering nutrients with to much nitrogen as it can cause overly leafy buds but be carefull not to lower to much as it may affect photosynthesis and this may effect the plants ability to turn the nutrients into NICE FAT BUDS :)


This is my guide through years of experimenting even at this im still learning all the time so i hope this is as close to lemans terms as i could think without confuseing any new growers and this is for the full biobizz range god nos how it works with other feeds but this is full organic range so good luck and i hope this is of help someday ill get a camera and post a few pics but untill then i can assure u im a gd grower well atleast when i dont experiment :)
 

allybam

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haha well thanks for experimenting on your plants, so we don't have to

much appreciated
I allways plant an extra few just to fuck around with if it works out well then theres a benifit fer all the next grow every 1 should do it its 1 thing reading stuff but far better doin the practical :weed::weed:weed soooo good lol:weed::weed: n thanks for the complement but were da fucks my rep lol jkjk:hug:
 

allybam

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!!!!! If at any point the plants are looking overfeed after first feed of new combo of Nutrient's FEED WITH PLAIN WATER FOR NEXT 3 FEED'S THEN REDUCE NUTRIENT'S BY 1ML EACH UNTILL NEW FEEDING REGIME AND NO WEATHER YOUR GROWING STRAIN LIKE'S LOVE'S OR LOATH'S HIGH NUTRIENTS
Lights off at 10am and on at 4pm for 18 hour cycle then reduceing to 12 hour over 5 days to 10am to 10pm reason for keeping lights of during day is to reduce exposer to cold climate as it is even colder during the night aswell as easyer to keep on top of times to turn on and off also reduceing times over 5 days to 12 - 12 as it shocks the plant less hench better quality WEED !!!!!

SEEDING STAGE
Wednesday ??? of ???? potted in large round pots 10 White Rhino seed's feeding them with -
2ml Rootjuice per litre
2ml Bioheaven per litre
1ml Biobloom per litre
Keep to these feeding amounts for 10 days untill Friday ??? of ?????-
VEGETATIVE
Saturday ??? of ???? started new feeding regime keep going for 10 days from ??? -
2ml Rootjuice per litre
2ml Bioheaven per litre
2ml Biogrow per litre
1ml Topmax per litre

Up Nutrient's and keep this feeding regime starting on to the Tuesday ??? of ??? for 10 days -
2ml Rootjuice per litre
3ml Bioheaven per litre
3ml Biogrow per litre
1ml Topmax per litre
Keep to these feeding amounts for 10 days untill Friday ???? of ???? -
FLOWERING
Started to sex the plants will reduce light time from Friday???of ????? to -
Reduce Rootjuice down to 1ml per litre while adding Biobloom at 1ml per litre -
27th Day 1 - 17 hours
28th Day 2 - 16 hours
1st Day 3 - 14 hours
2nd Day 4 - 13 hours
3rd Day 5 - 12 hours
And changeing new feeding regime for flowering to Teusday ?? of ???? -
3ml Bioheaven per litre
3ml Biogrow per litre
2ml Biobloom per litre
3ml Topmax per litre
Continue at the above regime for days untill Friday ??? of ???? then changing Nutrients -
3ml Bioheaven per litre
3ml Biogrow per litre
4ml Biobloom per litre
3ml Topmax per litre
Keep at this feeding schedule untill ready to HARVEST THEM NICE
STICKY FAT ASS BUD'S

NOTE
In 6" pot's must water everyday or soil get's sucked dry!!

this is my feeding regime with biobizz allso have fish mix now but still testin how much to use seems ta keep em nice n healthy lookin its high in nitrogen and ok K=Potassium which helps to get bigger buds fs really need a cam ta show me 4 babys n the fish mix is really stinkin so make sure ta get a vent !
 
does anyone know of any good household foods i can use for compost that are high in phosphorus for flowering, other than store bought feeders. any help would be great
 
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