organic potassium?

what are some suggestions for organic input of potassium either as a top dress or in SS mix or both?dried seaweed/kelp,langbeinite?have wanted to give organics a go and trying to gather the rite amendments,and just reading the threads for info.at the moment i only have the dry seaweed,would it be worth getting some langbeinite?is hard wood ash better?

the native said:

what are some suggestions for organic input of potassium either as a top dress or in SS mix or both?dried seaweed/kelp,langbeinite?have wanted to give organics a go and trying to gather the rite amendments,and just reading the threads for info.at the moment i only have the dry seaweed,would it be worth getting some langbeinite?is hard wood ash better?

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I use kelp meal in all my mixes I've made, but just recently picked up some greensand to help with the K a bit. From what I've gathered about greensand, it will take a long time to become fully available to the plant, but is a nice addition to the micro nutrients as well as K. I mixed some greensand globally in the soil bins and am also running it through my worms bins for the added time/microbes needed to break it down. Langeinite looks interesting and I will probably grab some down the road sometime, but haven't tried that or wood ash before.

My advice to you is to be sure to purchase a quality compost addition prior to anything else. Starting with a quality base is going to give you the best chance at success in my opinion as it really is the motor driving your soil. Starting a worm bin for a constant supply of fresh compost would be something to consider as well.

thanks for that mate.i cant source any green sand were im from,unless its called something else.im gathering the equipment for organics at the moment,worm bin,compost bin etc.ive just got some good quality compost,ewc,guano,dry seaweed,liquid my-co,bone flour etcl.i can only find these sort of dry organic amendments from this site.what else would be recommended?
ive also got a SS composting at the moment(1 week old).
i wanna start composting properly and have my own,and hopefully by the next round i should have some nice microbes.
chur for the input

I recommend you research KNF methods. I use fermented plant juice from bananas for a potassium boost when needed. You can use as a soil drench and as a foliar spray. I use two tbsp per gallon along with fish hydrosylate. Very cheap but effective! Brown sugar, bananas and a jar is all you need. One week later you have a concentrated potassium source.

awesome i will give that a try,what would the dilution ratio be?

I use 2 Tbsp per gallon of water.

Skylander said:

I recommend you research KNF methods. I use fermented plant juice from bananas for a potassium boost when needed. You can use as a soil drench and as a foliar spray. I use two tbsp per gallon along with fish hydrosylate. Very cheap but effective! Brown sugar, bananas and a jar is all you need. One week later you have a concentrated potassium source.

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the knf,banana brown sugar juice looks like a great answer to my dilemma. when would you apply it and how often?

I use as a soil drench and foliar spray for the first three weeks of flower. I foliar spray twice a week and drench once a week. Of course I continue to use as a soil drench until week 7 of flower. You can also use it in veg if youre deficient but I never have that problem.

Skylander said:

I use as a soil drench and foliar spray for the first three weeks of flower. I foliar spray twice a week and drench once a week. Of course I continue to use as a soil drench until week 7 of flower. You can also use it in veg if youre deficient but I never have that problem.

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thank you mate.

banana and sugar in jar nw.

You want to weigh each ingredient in equal parts. Then cover with a breathable material.

250g of each should be ok?

Yeah that should be a good starting point. Being that it only takes about 5 days to ferment it is always better to start small and scale up as you figure out your usage rate. For example I make 15 gallons every feed so I know I need about 2 cups every week. After you separate the solids and you figure out your fpj return you will have a baseline for your gardens requirements so you can scale your production more efficently.

fpj return?i have only seedlings at the moment(1 week old from seed)would it be sweet to leave it for awhile till i need it?

Fermented plant Juice (fpj) Yeah for storage I add equal parts molasses but keep a breathable cover.

Black Strap Molasses is often overlooked, Hardwood Ash.

Potassium Sulfate or Sulfate of Potash is a mineral salt from ancient dried up seas. It's like 0-0-50 and some brands are OMRI listed for organics. It's used in nutrient blends like Happy Frog and Dr Earth. You can use like 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of the straight stuff.

Kelp and greensand are cool too. Alfalfa also has some K.

thanks for your guys input ive got a lot to learn.i have sulfate of potash but its heat treated apparently and not proper organic and throws ph around.these types of amendments greensand ,alfalfa are hard to get here in nz, unless its called something else or im uselesss at finding them.getting the amendments from amazon is way to expensive especially dr earth.

the native said:

thanks for your guys input ive got a lot to learn.i have sulfate of potash but its heat treated apparently and not proper organic and throws ph around.these types of amendments greensand ,alfalfa are hard to get here in nz, unless its called something else or im uselesss at finding them.getting the amendments from amazon is way to expensive especially dr earth.

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I often use my wood ashings, but it does sweeten the soil some.

the native said:

what are some suggestions for organic input of potassium either as a top dress or in SS mix or both?dried seaweed/kelp,langbeinite?have wanted to give organics a go and trying to gather the rite amendments,and just reading the threads for info.at the moment i only have the dry seaweed,would it be worth getting some langbeinite?is hard wood ash better?

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Composted animal manures generally come with quite a bit of K in them, chicken particularly...